苹果新的智能家居产品线相较 Amazon、Google、Nest 和 Ring 定价过高,且缺乏亮点;它会靠品牌卖出去,但不会明显改变营收。增长在于服务,而非硬件;成功并无保证,普及是一大障碍,但苹果的风险较低。
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大家好,Apple 昨天发布了一些新产品。这不是他们通常举办的那种大型发布会,但这是对产品线的一次显著扩充。Rachel,我们有一些新的家庭安防系统。他们并没有直接把它们叫做安防系统,但你知道,就是监控摄像头、门铃和室内摄像头。
与过去我们看到的产品相比,这个价格点非常高。如你所知,其中一些东西要花300美元,而不是许多这类服务不到100美元就能买到。另一件事是“HomePod View”,基本上就是一个带扬声器的iPad,售价300美元。你会买一个吗?
Hey guys, Apple launched some new products yesterday. It wasn't the big show they usually put on, but it was a notable expansion of the production lines. Rachel, okay, we have some new home security systems.
They didn't exactly call them security systems, but you know, surveillance cameras, doorbells, and indoor cameras. This is a very high price point compared to what we have seen in the past.
As you know, some of these things cost $300 instead of the less than $100 you can get from many of these services. The other thing is the "HomePod View," which is basically an iPad with a speaker for $300. Will you buy one of them?
我并不一定打算买一个。我这么说,是作为一个在消费层面完全沉浸在 Apple 生态系统中的人。我是一个长期的 Apple 股东,所以我不是黑粉,但我并不认为这是他们做过的最具革命性的事情。
I'm not necessarily in line to buy one. And I say this as someone who is completely immersed in the Apple ecosystem as a consumer. I'm a longtime Apple shareholder, so I'm not a hater, but I don't think this is the most revolutionary thing they've done.
现在,我们来稍微谈谈他们发布了什么。他们推出了“Home Pod View”。这是一个智能家居控制中心,售价299美元。它配备7英寸“Liquid Retina”显示屏。它包含A18芯片,以及一个摄像头,有桌面版或壁挂版可选。
Apple 随后还推出了它所谓的“Apple Home Collection”。这本质上是一个精选商店,销售摄像头、恒温器和门锁等高端配件,是他们与 Schneider Electric 和 LG Electronics 合作开发的。
Now, let's talk a little about what they released. They launched "Home Pod View". This is a smart home control center priced at $299. It features a 7-inch "Liquid Retina" display.
It contains an A18 chip, and a camera available in tabletop or wall-mounted versions. Apple then also introduced what it calls the "Apple Home Collection". It is essentially a curated store for premium accessories such as cameras, thermostats and locks, which they developed in collaboration with Schneider Electric and LG Electronics.
现在,有趣的是“HomePod View”;你有某种典型的多用户面部识别。他们有工具,最多可以切换六个家庭成员。这是普通iPad仍然缺乏的功能。它被设计成即使你的Wi-Fi断了也能保持联网。
然而,生态系统是有限的,所以 HomePod View 缺乏用于流媒体或游戏的正式应用商店。你必须订阅“iCloud Plus”套餐才能录制视频。由于 Siri 的智能限制,这项产品目前也被禁止进入欧盟市场,而这些限制仍在处理中。
Now, what's interesting is "HomePod View"; you have a kind of typical multi-user facial recognition. They have tools that you can swap for up to six family members. This is a feature that the regular iPad still lacks.
It is designed to stay connected to the internet even if your Wi-Fi goes down. The ecosystem is limited, however, so HomePod View lacks a proper app store for streaming or gaming.
You must have an "iCloud Plus" plan to record video. This offer is currently also banned from EU markets due to Siri's intelligence restrictions, which are still being addressed.
但对我来说,考虑到这一点,传感器大约40美元,摄像头大约200美元,门锁可能高达350美元。所以,这比使用 Amazon Alexa 或 Google Home 的替代方案,或者比如 Nest 或 Ring 设备要贵得多。消费者会想换到这套系统吗?我不知道。
But for me, considering this, the sensors are about $40, the cameras are about $200, and the locks could go up to $350. So, this is much more expensive than using Amazon Alexa or Google Home alternatives, or for example Nest or Ring devices.
Will consumers want to switch to that? I don't know.
这里让我惊讶的是,当你看看他们宣布的几乎所有产品的产品线时。我的意思是,“Home View”设备只是一个连接到扬声器的iPad。哦,家庭安防工具都是已经存在的产品。这看起来像是在2015年而不是2007年推出iPhone,而那时市场已经非常成熟了。
What surprised me here is when you look at the product range for almost everything they announced. I mean, I mean, the "Home View" device is just an iPad connected to a speaker.
Oh, you know, home security tools are products that already exist. This seems like launching an iPhone, but in 2015 instead of 2007, when there is already a well-established market.
我的意思是,如你所知,我有一套系统,家里有几个摄像头。我们有内部传感器。我绝不可能拿我现在拥有的东西去换,或者花接近这个价格的任何金额,而且尽管我家里有很多 Apple 设备,我似乎在所有这些 Apple 产品上都会回到这一点。
I mean, as you know, I have one of those systems where I have a few cameras around the house. We have internal sensors. There is no way I would trade what I have now or spend any amount close to this price, and it seems I keep coming back to this point with all these Apple products despite having a lot of Apple devices at home.
好,如果你以前听过这个就打断我,但欢迎来到渐进主义的时代,不是吗?因为这就是我们在这里谈论的。Rachel 说得对,这确实不令人兴奋。不再有那种你不知道自己需要的、新奇疯狂的东西的单一“额外亮点”。
现在只是给你的现有生态系统增加新的层次或功能。你说得对,它定价过高,但它也带有 Apple 的品牌。我认为它会卖得很好。
Okay, stop me if you've heard this before, but welcome to the age of gradualism, isn't it? Because that's what we're talking about here. Rachel is right, it is uninspiring. There is no longer a single "extra thing" of those new and crazy things that you didn't know you needed.
Now it's simply a matter of adding new layers or functions to your existing ecosystem. You're right, it's overpriced, but it also comes with the Apple branding. I think it will sell well.
他们也有合作伙伴关系。因此,他们并不真正承担开发的风险或负担。我认为这是一个显而易见的决定,但这不会改变收入的规模。
They also have partnerships. Therefore, they do not bear the risks or the burdens of development in a real sense. I think this is an obvious decision, but it won't change the size of the revenues.
我认为对我来说最有趣的部分——这也许是我们这里的重点——是关于家中 Siri 人工智能受到使用限制的大量讨论。如果你想超出这些使用限制,你就必须付给他们更多钱。所以,如果这里有一条路径,我认为它不在硬件,而在服务,服务会变得更贵。但首先,你得让所有人都对这些产品上瘾。
I think the most interesting part for me—and this may be our focus here—is the amount of talk about Siri's artificial intelligence at home being subject to usage limits. If you want to exceed those usage limits, you will have to pay them more money.
So, if there is a path here, I don't think it's in the hardware, but in the services, which will become more expensive. But first, you have to get everyone hooked on the products.
我拥有一个智能家居,这些东西我都有。说实话,一切都很好,但我不确定我是否愿意为其中任何一样花哪怕一美元。所以我认为他们要达到目标有一个很大的障碍,但我认为计划是:扩大你已经建立的生态系统,从中产生额外收入,并期待一个家庭真正智能化的未来,那时你可以提高某些 Siri 服务和其他东西的价格。
I own a smart home, and I have all these things. To be honest, it's all great, but I don't know if I would pay a single dollar for any of it. So I think they have a big hurdle to get to where they want to be, but I think the plan is: expand your established ecosystem, generate additional revenue from it, and look forward to a future where the home is truly smart, where you can raise the prices for some of these Siri services and other things.
我们两年前或两周前谈过这个,但这是 Vision Home 发布的十周年,你知道,就是 Home 应用。我仍在尝试使用其中一些工具,但它们非常难用。这个东西几乎像是当年它本该有的样子的化身。
We talked about this two years or two weeks ago, but this is the tenth anniversary of the launch of Vision Home, you know, the Home app. I'm still trying to use some of those tools, but they are very difficult to use.
This thing almost seems like the embodiment of what it should have been like back then.
嗯。但这是 Apple 一贯的把所有东西整合在一起的方式,我毫不怀疑这一切都会运行得很好。但要求人们花数千美元购买他们可能已经拥有、而且能以低得多的价格买到的设备。更不用说我们甚至还没谈到 Apple TV 设备。
我家里有三台 Apple TV。我花的钱远不到一台设备的价钱,更不用说所有设备了,而且我不确定这个产品的真正优势是什么。
Hmm. But it's Apple's usual way of putting everything together, and I have no doubt it will all work great. But asking people to spend thousands of dollars on devices they may already own and that are available at a much lower price.
Not to mention that we haven't even talked about the Apple TV device. I have three Apple TVs at home. I didn't spend anywhere near what one device would cost, let alone all of them, and I'm not sure what the real advantage of this product is.
所以在我看来,无论他们做什么,他们都在把自己的产品定价到市场上的超高端类别,而这正变得越来越具有挑战性,因为他们不再像以前那样高端了。
So it seems to me that with everything they do, they are pricing their products into a super-premium category in the market, which is becoming increasingly challenging because they are no longer as premium as they once were.
这是个大问题。我的意思是,我认为可以说 HomeKit 十年前失败了,因为他们在一切都还很新、每个人都能互相通信的时候坚持封闭系统。他们是那些说“不,你必须生活在我们的生态系统里”的人。
我认为他们会辩称自己当时太超前了。他们没说错。但正如你所说,现在每个人都有这些东西了,封闭系统现在还能行得通吗?
That's the big question. I mean, I think it's fair to say that HomeKit failed a decade ago because they insisted on a closed system at a time when everything was new and everyone could communicate with each other.
They were the ones who said, "No, you must live within our ecosystem." I think they will argue that they were too early. They are not wrong. But as you say, now that everyone has these things, will the closed system work now?
你会仅仅为了 Siri 功能,把你现在的 Ring 手机换成更贵的 Apple 手机吗?因为再说一次,我不知道你对你设备的看法,但我不知道我想让人工智能在这里做什么。
Would you replace your current Ring phone with a more expensive Apple one just for the Siri features? Because again, I don't know your opinion about your devices, but I don't know what I want artificial intelligence to do here.
好吗?我认为这是一个悬而未决的问题,但我也认为这是他们觉得自己可以随着时间解决的问题。我们拭目以待。正如我所说,它以前失败过。我不认为这次成功是必然的,但再说一次,我认为对 Apple 来说风险非常低,所以为什么不试试呢?
Good? I think it's an open question, but I also think it's a question they feel they can solve over time. We'll see. As I said, it has failed before. I don't think success is guaranteed this time, but again, I think the risks are very low for Apple, so why not try?
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