$AVGO · The Motley Fool · 2026-10-26
博通是一个大 fan 看涨判断:远期市盈率约20倍,预计明年AI收入达1150亿美元、2028年达2300亿美元;鉴于管理层提到需求更大,说话者认为这一预测偏保守;若按20倍市盈率乘以2028年每股收益30美元,则隐含股价600美元。他预计未来两年将显著增长、利润提升,并有超出预期的空间。风险包括英伟达的数据中心生态,以及部分AI实验室客户的融资瓶颈;不过谷歌和Meta流动性充裕,且谷歌是比Anthropic/OpenAI更大的客户,因此不构成集中度风险。
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虽然我在视频中的第二选择,或者说我的第一选择,是所谓的“反 Nvidia”公司 Broadcom。那么,为什么叫它“反 Nvidia”呢?因为每次我们听到 Broadcom 的营收预计将翻倍、再翻倍等等,原因总是竞争对手希望分散来源、摆脱对 Nvidia 的依赖,这就是他们转向 Broadcom 的原因。
他们也用 Marvell,但这就是它被称为“反 Nvidia”的原因。这两家公司在可预见的未来都将持续大幅增长,但今天 Broadcom 和 Nvidia 一样,远期市盈率约为20倍。
自由现金流当然每个季度都在增长。根据管理层的预测,仅 AI 业务部分明年预计将产生1150亿美元,并预计在2028年翻倍至2300亿美元。再说一次,这仅仅是 AI 业务部分。至于其余部分,你只需要加上去。
而且我认为他们仍然相信,他们2028年每股收益目标是每股30美元。我相信该股目前交易在每股340美元或330美元左右。所以,即使你想用2028年的远期市盈率,如果你对那30美元应用20倍市盈率,你会得出每股600美元。
这大概不是你愿意做的事,但只是为了说明这是一家增长非常快的公司。它一天比一天更赚钱。而对我来说,如果他们已经在设定明年及以后的 AI 营收目标,这意味着他们对实现这些数字有清晰的愿景。
这同样代表的是最低值。就像 Nvidia 给了我们70%的增长,我认为他们会给我们70%,甚至更多。这里也是一样:115、230,AI 营收可能还会更多。所以,这就是我的选择。
Although my second choice in the video, or my first choice, is what is called the "anti-Nvidia" company, Broadcom. Now, why is it called "Anti-Nvidia"? Because every time we hear that Broadcom's revenues are expected to double and double again, etc., the reason is always the desire of competitors to diversify their sources away from dependence on Nvidia, and that is why they turn to Broadcom.
They also use Marvell, but that's why it's called "Anti-Nvidia". Both players will continue to grow significantly in the foreseeable future, but today Broadcom, like Nvidia, is trading at 20 times or so future earnings.
Free cash flow, of course, grows every quarter. Based on management's projections, the AI portion of the business alone is expected to generate $115 billion next year, and that is projected to double in 2028 to $230 billion.
Again, that's just for the AI portion of the business. As for the rest, you just need to add it. And they still believe, I think, that their 2028 earnings per share target was $30 per share.
I believe the stock is currently trading at around $340 or $330 per share. So, even if you wanted to use a forward price-to-earnings multiple for 2028, and if you applied a 20x multiple to that amount of $30, you would arrive at $600 per share.
This is probably not what you would like to do, but just to illustrate that this is a company that is growing very rapidly. It is becoming more profitable day by day. And for me, if they are already setting AI revenue targets for next year and beyond, it means they have a clear vision for achieving those numbers.
This, again, represents the minimum. Just as Nvidia gave us 70% growth, I think they will give us 70% and maybe more. Here's the same thing: 115, 230, and possibly more for AI revenues. So, this is my choice.
是的,是的,如果你想列举与 Broadcom 相关的一些风险,Neo,第一个,正如我提到的,就是 Nvidia 实在太庞大了。现在 Broadcom 的主要客户是谁已经很清楚。
正如我提到的,有很多云服务提供商,对吧?Amazon 和 Google 凭借它们的张量处理单元(TPU)就是其中的大玩家。然后它们在人工智能实验室领域还有其他参与者。它们也有一个死掉的。
所以,那里的压力很大。在人工智能实验室方面,OpenAI 的“Jalapeno”芯片似乎表现非常好,我们可能开始看到它进入商业化量产。但对我来说,我坚信的一点,也是我们从 Nvidia 团队那里听到的,就是造出芯片连一半的战斗都算不上。
构建整个数据中心才是最重要的,同时还要拥有整条供应链。在柏林 GTC 大会期间,Nvidia 发布了一个真正了不起的东西,Neo。它叫 DGX Pod。它们以前也有过类似的系统,但这是我们第一次看到类似集装箱的东西,里面实际上装着一套预先构建好的 Vera Rubin 系统解决方案。
所以,你可以来,他们说他们能把数据中心建成后获得算力所需的时间从几个月缩短到仅仅 14 天。这太疯狂了。如果你是一家 OpenAI 这样的公司、一家人工智能公司或一家云公司,New,那么造这些芯片、为它们付钱、再花几个月时间连接和搭建一切,意味着 4 到 5 个月没有任何收入。
我会想这么做吗?我的投资人会想让我去跟一个没有真实数据的实体打交道吗?我认为目前做这件事,融资是一个主要问题。我认为这个问题是存在的。幸运的是,与 Broadcom 打交道的大多数参与者都有充足的流动性,比如 Google 和 Meta,但有一些参与者我认为会面临融资瓶颈,而资金方可能会说:“你知道吗?
如果你真的想要我们的钱,我觉得跟 Nvidia 打交道更让我放心。”“因为我知道收入会开始收得快得多,因此你也能更快地把钱还给我。”但不管这个风险如何,我是 Broadcom 的忠实粉丝,Neil。
我的意思是,这是另一家未来十二个月远期市盈率在 20 倍左右的公司。我认为它大概率仍在 20 倍出头,而且市场预期人工智能芯片会大幅增长。他们认为明年会达到 1150 亿美元,后年将接近 2300 亿美元。
这些数字对他们来说非常保守。他们表示自己的需求远大于此。他们只是根据实际会被使用的算力量在保守行事。因此,我觉得他们在这些数字上非常谨慎。所以,超出预期的机会肯定存在。如果我必须提出一个悲观观点和一个乐观观点,那就是这两点,Neil。
Yes, yes, if you want to raise some of the risks associated with Broadcom, Neo, the first one, as I mentioned, is that Nvidia is such a giant. It is now clear who Broadcom's major clients are.
As I mentioned, there are a lot of cloud service providers, right? Amazon and Google are among the big players thanks to their Tensor Processing Units (TPUs). Then they also have other players in artificial intelligence labs.
They have a dead body too. So, there's a lot of pressure there. In artificial intelligence labs, OpenAI's "Jalapeno" chip appears to have performed really well, and we may begin to see commercial production of it.
But for me, one of the things I believe in, and we hear from the Nvidia team, is that building the chip is not even half the battle. Building the entire data center is paramount, along with owning that entire supply chain.
During the GTC conference in Berlin, Nvidia launched something truly remarkable, Neo. It was called the DGX Pod. They have had systems like this before, but this is the first time we have seen something resembling a shipping container that actually contains a pre-built Vera Rubin system solution inside it.
So, you can come, and they said they can reduce the time needed to get computing power after the data center is built from a few months to just 14 days. This is crazy. And if you are an OpenAI company, an artificial intelligence company, or a cloud company, New, then building these chips, paying for them, and taking a few months to connect and build everything means 4 or 5 months without any revenue.
Would I want to do that? Would my investor want me to deal with an entity that does not have real data? I think funding is a major problem at the moment for doing that. I think it exists.
Fortunately, most of the players who deal with Broadcom have sufficient liquidity, such as Google and Meta, but there are some players that I think will face a funding bottleneck, and the funders may say, "You know what?
If you really want our money, I feel more comfortable dealing with Nvidia." "Because I know that the revenue will start to be collected much faster, and therefore you will be able to pay me back much faster as well."
But regardless of that risk, I'm a big fan of Broadcom, Neil. I mean, it's another company that's trading at a forward price-to-earnings ratio of around 20 for the next twelve months.
I think it's probably still close to the early twenties with expectations of huge growth in artificial intelligence chips. They believe that next year it will reach $115 billion, and the year after that it will approach $230 billion.
These figures are very conservative on their part. They stated that they had a much larger demand than that. They are simply being conservative based on the amount of computing power that will actually be used.
For this reason, I feel they are being very cautious with those figures. Therefore, the opportunity to exceed expectations certainly exists. If I had to present one pessimistic viewpoint and one optimistic one, these would be the two points, Neil.
是的,我同意你的看法。我不认为这可以被称为集中度风险,因为我仍然认为 Google 对他们来说是比 Anthropic 或 OpenAI 大得多的客户。但这确实是一个值得考虑的风险:如果 Anthropic 和 OpenAI 没有像预期那样快速增长,它们就无法为此向 Broadcom 甚至 Nvidia 付钱。
但我认为这也是为什么我们看到 Nvidia 在玩循环融资的游戏。我相信 Broadcom 也是如此,凭借那 600 亿美元,旨在帮助加速整个生态系统。有些人可能不喜欢这样,但如果你是一家即将产生数千亿美元自由现金流的公司,而且你看到自己可以帮助业务、让生态系统增长得更快,那为什么不呢?
为什么不投资并推动事情进一步发展,尤其是如果你当然会从自己的投资中成为大赢家?是的,我当然同意存在一些风险,但在不久的将来,我说的不久的将来是指未来两年,我看到 Broadcom 会从现在的水平大幅增长,并变得更具盈利能力。
Yes, I agree with you. I don't think it can be described as a concentration risk, because I still believe that Google is a much bigger client for them than Anthropic or OpenAI.
But it is certainly a risk worth considering: if Anthropic and OpenAI do not grow as quickly as expected, they will not be able to pay Broadcom or even Nvidia for it. But I think that's also why we're seeing Nvidia playing the circular financing game.
I believe that Broadcom, too, with that $60 billion, aims to help accelerate this entire ecosystem. Some may not like this, but if you're a company about to generate hundreds of billions of dollars in free cash flow, and you see that you can help the business and make the ecosystem grow faster, why not?
Why not invest and push things further, especially if you're going to come out as a big winner from your own investment, of course? Yes, I certainly agree that there are some risks, but in the near future, and by near future I mean the next two years, I see Broadcom growing significantly from where it is now and becoming more profitable.
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