$DUOL · Asymmetric Investing by Travis Hoium · 2026-11-04
Duolingo 日活跃用户和月活跃用户增长正在加速,随着时间推移应能转化为付费订阅用户,并推动已放缓至二十几个百分点的营收增长重新加速;AI 是助力因素,而非颠覆因素。毛利率持平,营业利润率因 AI 成本和 1100 万美元增长奖金而下滑,但随着 AI 成本下降,未来两年应会扩张。按今日股价变动后约 5 倍市销率和 19 倍自由现金流计算,估值合理。
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Duolingo 股价在周三开盘时上涨了26%,此前该公司公布了真正出色的业绩。让投资者印象深刻的不是营收,而是其用户规模的体量,尤其是日活跃用户。
Duolingo shares jumped 26% at the start of trading on Wednesday after the company announced truly exceptional results. It wasn't the revenue that impressed investors, but rather the size of their user base, especially on a daily basis.
如果你关注 Duolingo 有一段时间了,尤其是在“Asymmetric Investing”这个频道上,你就会知道,目前这家公司的业务引擎并不是预订金额,也不是当前的付费用户数。
真正重要的是他们多快能把营销漏斗填满。日活跃用户是最值得关注的指标,而他们的这一数字增长非常惊人。这才是市场真正在反应的东西。
If you've been following Duolingo for a while, especially here on the "Asymmetric Investing" channel, you know that the business engine isn't the booking number at the moment; Not the current number of paid users.
What matters is how quickly they fill up that marketing funnel. Daily active users are the best metric to look at, and there has been amazing growth in their numbers. This is really what the market is reacting to.
这应该不算太意外,因为管理层一段时间以来一直在谈他们在用户互动方面想要推动的目标。我们想增加日活跃用户数。他们已经为内部团队成员落实了奖励措施。我记得他们仅本季度就拨出1100万美元来支付这些奖金。
所以,他们是把话变成了行动。“大家好,我们希望长期持续增长业务。”这最终会带来回报。这并不意味着本季度在净利润上就会见效,但意味着未来会见效。这就是股价上涨的原因。记住,市场总是着眼于未来。
This should not come as a big surprise because management has been talking for some time about what they are pushing for in terms of user interaction. We want to increase the number of daily active users .
They have already implemented rewards for internal team members. They have allocated, I believe, $11 million this quarter alone to pay these bonuses. So, they translate their words into actions.
"Hello, we want to continue to grow the business in the long term." This will eventually pay off. This does not mean that it will pay off in this quarter in terms of net profit.
But it means it will pay off in the future. That's why the stock rose. Remember that the market is always looking to the future.
如果你想看到我更多的内容,包括我像 Duolingo 这样的股票买入操作,请关注“Asymmetric Investing”。
If you want more from me, including my stock buy deals like Duolingo, follow " Asymmetric Investing".
在财报日,面对像 Duolingo 这样的公司,我是这样使用“Fiscal AI”的。他们已经有自己的直接信息。所以,你可以登录后立刻查看财务数据。营收发生了什么变化?营业利润发生了什么变化?
这通常是我会立刻关注的两件事,而且这些数据已经按季度提供。因此,你会看到营收略有增长,而营业利润实际上下降了。
Here's how I use "Fiscal AI" on earnings day with a company like Duolingo. They already have their own direct information. So, you can log in and take a look at the financial data immediately.
What happened to the revenue? What happened to operating profit? These are usually two things I look at immediately, and this is already available on a quarterly basis. Therefore, you see a slight increase in revenue, and actually a decrease in operating profit.
好,我们来看看这些关键绩效指标的情况。月活跃用户有所上升,日活跃用户大幅增长,但付费订阅用户还没有达到那个水平。我认为这就是本季度的故事。
Okay, let's take a look at what's happening with these key performance indicators. There has been a rise in monthly active users and a huge increase in daily active users, but paid subscribers have not yet reached that level . I think that's the story of this quarter,
我们先从我认为目前对 Duolingo 最重要的指标说起。这指的是月活跃用户数和日活跃用户数。如果你回顾一下,我们稍微往回看一点。回到2022年12月。月活跃用户数持续增长,直到差不多去年。
2025年第一季度有1.3亿,而在接下来的五个季度里只增加了1000万,到今年第二季度末达到1.4亿。这就是市场担忧的地方。这家公司是否已经从一家成长型公司变成了一家开始放缓的公司?
Let's start with the metrics that I consider most important for Duolingo at the moment. This refers to the number of monthly active users and daily active users. If you look back, let's go back in time a little.
Let's go back to December 2022. Continuous growth in the number of monthly active users until almost last year. There were 130 million in the first quarter of 2025, and the number increased by only 10 million over the next five quarters to reach 140 million by the end of the second quarter of this year.
This is what worries the market. Has this company transformed from a growth company to one that has begun to slow down?
我们再加上营收增长率,因为我认为这能说明问题。看,40%的增长。而现在,突然之间,即使在上个季度,这个比率也掉到了二十几。我会解释为什么这个数字不像我们从40%降到30%再降到20%时那次下滑那么令人担忧。
那次股价大幅下跌,是因为市场注意到营收增长在放缓。这是你绝对不想看到的情况。
Let's add the revenue growth rate because I think it tells the story here. Look, a 40% growth. Now, suddenly, the ratio has dropped into the twenties even in this last quarter.
I will explain why this number is not as alarming as the drop that occurred when we went from 40% to 30% to 20%. That was when the stock fell sharply because the market noticed that revenue growth was slowing down.
This is not something you would ever want to see.
那么,怎样才能让营收增长再次加速,回到20%或30%的水平?它需要吸引更多人进入这个生态。你需要在销售漏斗顶部拥有更宽的基数。作为投资者,我们要依赖的指标是月活跃用户的增长模式。
你可以看到,上个季度大约新增了1300万月活跃用户。这比之前五个季度新增的还要多。
So, how do you get revenue growth to accelerate again and return to the 20 or 30% level ? It needs to attract more people to the ecosystem. You need to have a wider base at the top of the sales funnel.
The indicator we will rely on as investors is the growth pattern of monthly active users. You can see that approximately 13 million monthly active users were added in the last quarter.
This is more than what was added in the previous five quarters.
我们把这个去掉,看看日活跃用户。第二季度日活跃用户有所改善或加速,但这是一次巨大的加速,平台上新增了超过600万日活跃用户。管理层表示,有几个因素促成了这一点。他们正在改进应用。他们拥有更多人工智能工具和对话工具。
Let's remove that and show the daily active users . There was an improvement or acceleration in the second quarter for daily active users, but this is a huge acceleration with more than 6 million additional daily users on the platform.
The administration stated that several factors contributed to this. They are working on improving the application. They have more artificial intelligence tools and conversational tools.
所以,这就是其中一件事。我认为关于 Duolingo 的看空说法很容易讲。等等,人工智能会直接颠覆这家公司,从现在起5年内它就会彻底完蛋。我不认为会是这样。我相信人工智能会成为把你推向 Duolingo 这类平台的工具,他们会利用人工智能来改进自己的应用。
So, this is one of those things. I think the story of the Duolingo disorder is very easy to tell. Wait, artificial intelligence will simply disrupt this company . It will be completely finished within 5 years from now.
I don't think that will be the case. I believe that artificial intelligence will be the tool that will drive you to a platform like Duolingo, where they will use artificial intelligence to improve their application.
比如对话这类功能。我已经看到我的一个女儿这样做了。她下楼时正在用 Duolingo 和它对话。她在回答一个问题。这个功能即使在免费版里也能用。所以,这是他们正在更多测试并实际推出的东西。
For example, things like conversation. I have already seen one of my daughters do that. She went downstairs, and she was using Duolingo and talking to it. She was answering a question.
This is available even in the free version. So, this is something they are testing more and actually introducing.
他们还在努力简化定价,只提供一种高级订阅方案。所以,他们把这些AI工具和一些对话工具加入免费方案,让免费方案更有价值,希望用户随着时间推移转向付费方案。月活跃用户、日活跃用户的增长,与付费订阅用户的增长之间存在时间差。
所以,这就是我们希望看到的方向;最终,这些数字的增长会带动这个数字增长,也就是营收增长率。
They are also working to simplify their pricing by offering only one premium plan. So, they are adding some of these AI tools and some of these conversational tools to the free plans, making them more valuable, in the hope that users will move to those paid plans over time.
There is a time lag between the increase in monthly active users, daily active users, and then the increase in paid subscribers. So, this is the direction we want to see; Ultimately, increasing these numbers will lead to an increase in this number, which is the revenue growth rate .
但当然,对 Duolingo 来说并非全是利好。你应该从两个角度来看这件事。当前的数据是什么样,未来的数据又会是什么样?看当前,我这里黄色是总营收,蓝色是总利润,紫色是毛利率。
你可以看到,这个毛利率有些波动。它没有上升。至少从毛利率方面看,我们没有看到利润率扩张。
But of course, it's not all positive for Duolingo. There are two ways you should look at this . What are the current figures, and what will the figures look like in the future?
Looking at the current time, I have here total revenue in yellow, total profit in blue, and gross profit margin in purple. You can see that this gross profit margin has fluctuated a little.
It doesn't rise. We do not have margin expansion, at least on the gross profit margin side.
但现在我们转到运营方面。我把这些数据列在这里,以获得稍微更新的信息。营业利润率在2025年到年底之间实际上在加速。而现在你开始看到它下降。这有两个原因。你提到他们在免费模式甚至付费模式中使用了更多AI工具。
因此,随着时间推移,这会变得稍微更贵。我不认为这会是大问题,因为这些成本正在大幅下降。我记得管理层说过,不久之前,大约一年前,进行一次这样的对话要花好几美元,而现在只需大约一美分。
所以,这些成本会继续下降,我们甚至可能把一些推理过程转移到设备本身。我们看看情况会如何发展。
But let's now move on to the operational side. I will list this data here to get slightly more up-to-date information. The operating margin was actually accelerating between 2025 and the end of it.
And now you're starting to see it drop. There are two reasons for that. You mentioned that they use more AI tools in their free mode and even in their paid mode. Therefore, it will become slightly more expensive over time.
I don't think this will be a big problem because those costs are decreasing significantly. I think the administration said that having one of these conversations used to cost several dollars not too long ago, a year or so ago , and now it costs only about one cent.
So, those costs will continue to decrease, and we may even be able to transfer some of those inference processes to the device itself. We'll see how things go.
另一件事是,与我前面提到的一些奖金相关的一次性成本。所以,团队,我们需要增加日活跃用户数。我们需要大家合作来实现这一点。如果我们达成其中一些目标,我会给你们更多报酬。这确实有效,但会影响短期营业利润。
长期来看,公司会保留收益,但短期内这会影响利润率。所以,这就是这些利润率偏低的原因。这也是市场不太担心的原因,因为市场明白“这些利润率最终会再次上升”。
The other thing is that there is a one-time cost related to some of the bonuses I mentioned earlier. So, team, we need to increase the number of daily active users. We need everyone's cooperation to achieve this.
I will pay you more if we achieve some of those goals. This does work, but it will affect short-term operating profit. In the long run, the company will retain the gains, but in the short term this will affect margins.
So, this is why these margins are low. This is also why the market isn't too worried about it, because the market understands that "these margins will eventually rise again."
你还会看到,记住这些是季度数据,Duolingo 的自由现金流为正。所以,这是一家资产负债表强劲、自由现金流为正的公司。现在仍然如此。我认为未来这会加速。管理层已经就此设定了一些长期目标。
我记得是7亿美元调整后息税折旧摊销前利润。那将是现金流的一个指标。所以,事情正朝着正确的方向发展。
You also have, and remember these are quarterly figures , positive free cash flows for Duolingo. So, this is a company with a strong balance sheet and positive free cash flow. This is still the case.
I think that will accelerate in the future. The administration has set some long-term goals regarding this. I believe it was $700 million in adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization.
That would be an indicator of cash flow. So, things are moving in the right direction.
现在,我对管理层的唯一批评就是他们如何使用这种批评。这是对自由现金流的一种粉饰性看法,对吧?所以你可以看到它仍然是正的。我会把这个隐藏起来。但这里是股票回购的安排。我相信他们在两个季度前已经增加了一项4亿美元的股票回购计划。
他们只用了其中很小一部分。通常来说,这不是一家会大量回购股票的公司。但看看现金余额。资产负债表上存在14亿美元的现金。
Now, the only criticism I have of the administration is how they use this criticism. This is a pink-tinted view of free cash flow , okay? So, you can see that it is still positive.
I will hide that. But here are the share buyback procedures. They have already added, I believe it was a $400 million share buyback program two quarters ago. They used a very small part of it .
Normally, this is not a company that would buy back a lot of shares. But look at the cash balance. There is $1.4 billion in cash that exists only on the balance sheet.
如果你知道业务开始改善,并且你认为这只股票的估值非常好——我认为在现阶段我们可以这么说。市销率大约是5倍。即使在今天的走势之后,市自由现金流比率仍在19倍左右,而增长又在加速。
If you know that the business is starting to improve, and you believe that the stock is very well valued, which I think we can say at this stage. The price-to-equity-to-sales ratio is approximately five.
The price-to-free-cash-flow ratio is around 19 even after today's move, with growth accelerating again.
买入股票的正确时机其实是几个月前。现在,我们正走到一个节点:是的,估值不错,但也许并不是回购股票的最佳时机。所以,这是我对本季度唯一的批评。管理层今年早些时候本应更大胆,在整个前九个月里,在股价低得多的时候买入股票。
你可以看到,自年初以来股价跌幅高达50%。只看这里的股价,4月份时大约是每股90美元。现在我们已经到了160美元。他们本可以在每股90到120美元之间的价格回购股票。他们有充足的时间这么做。
他们本可以用数亿美元来做这件事。他们还有持续的现金流入。我认为那才是积极买入股票的正确时机,但他们显然没有这么做。执掌公司的CEO Luis Von Ahn在这个问题上非常保守,这就是我对本季度唯一的看法。
The right time to buy stocks was actually a few months ago. Now, we are reaching a point where, yes, the valuation is good, but perhaps not the best time to repurchase shares. So, that's the only criticism I have of this quarter.
Management should have been bolder earlier this year, throughout the first nine months, by buying shares when their price was much lower. You can see that stocks have fallen by as much as 50% since the beginning of the year.
If you just look at the stock price here , it was around $90 per share in April. We have now reached $160. They could have repurchased the shares at a price between $90 and $120 per share.
They had plenty of time to do that. They could have done that with hundreds of millions of dollars. They still have incoming cash. I think that was the right time to buy the stocks aggressively , but they obviously didn't.
Louis Von Ahn, the CEO who runs the company, was very reserved on this matter, and that is my only observation for this quarter.
我认为运营似乎正朝着正确的方向前进。这些日活跃用户和月活跃用户要成为付费用户可能还需要几个季度,但我们未来会看到。我也预计长期利润率会扩大。也许不是下个季度或未来六个月,而是在未来两年,随着人工智能成本下降,它们能够在业务中发挥更大的作用。我认为Duolingo的处境非常好、非常出色。
I think the operations seem to be moving in the right direction. It may take a few more quarters for these daily and monthly active users to become paying users, but we will see that in the future.
I also expect an expansion in profit margins in the long term. Perhaps not in the next quarter or the next six months, but over the next two years as the costs of artificial intelligence decrease and they are able to make more of a difference in their business.
I think Duolingo's position is very good and outstanding.
我买入股票的时候,它们没有引起任何关注,但现在围绕Duolingo的叙事似乎真的开始发生变化了。
When I was buying stocks , they didn't garner any attention, but now the narrative around Duolingo seems to be really starting to change.
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Asymmetric Investing by Travis Hoium 在这只股票上共 2 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。