$ETN · Everything Money · 2026-10-28
以当前价格作为 10 年持有标的,Eaton 并不具吸引力:资本回报率偏低,360 亿美元债务对应 36 亿美元自由现金流,约为 10:1,股息几乎占去自由现金流的一半。尽管营收增长在加速(10/5/3 年分别为 4%/9.5%/接近 11%),他保守假设增长为 4%-10%、自由现金流倍数为 13-19 倍;按当前价格和平均假设,10 年回报大致持平(合理价值 125-269 美元,平均 180 美元)。
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各位,第三家公司是来自克利夫兰的Eaton。它的总部离我家12分钟路程。它制造电气设备,现在也制造为这些庞大数据中心供电和散热的液冷系统。乐观的前景:人工智能正乘着电气化的巨大浪潮。
因此,无论最终哪家AI公司胜出,Eaton都能赢。在悲观情景下,数据中心的预测可能过于乐观。Eaton为一项大型收购交易承担了大量债务,尽管那笔交易为数据中心增加了有价值的冷却技术。
Guys , the third company is Eaton, from Cleveland. Its headquarters are located 12 minutes from my home. It manufactures the electrical equipment and now the liquid cooling systems that power and cool these massive data centers.
Optimistic outlook: Artificial intelligence is riding a massive wave of electrification. Therefore, Eaton can win regardless of which AI company ultimately comes out on top . In a pessimistic scenario, data center forecasts may be overly optimistic .
Eaton took on a lot of debt for a large acquisition deal, although that deal added valuable cooling technology to data centers.
所以,各位,市值是1440亿美元,公司价值是1790亿美元。这意味着360亿美元的总债务。各位,他们去年只产生了36亿美元的自由现金流。这是10比1的比例。我不喜欢这样。对一家公司来说,债务高达360亿美元,而去年只产生了36亿美元的自由现金流,这是很多债务。在5年期间,平均年现金流只有27亿美元。
So, folks, the market capitalization is $144 billion, and the value of the company is $179 billion . This means $36 billion of total debt. Guys, they only made $3.6 billion in free cash flow last year.
That's a 10 to 1 ratio. I do n't like that. That's a lot of debt for a company, when its debt is $36 billion, while it generated only $3.6 billion in free cash flow last year. Over a period of 5 years, the average annual flow is only $2.7 billion.
资本回报率不是最好的。不太好。所以,我们已经有两大问题。第一,他们有很多债务。第二,他们甚至没有从投入这门生意的钱中获得高回报。因此,在某个时候,改变必然会发生。
Returns on capital are not the best. Not very good. So, we already have two big problems. Firstly, they have a lot of debt. Secondly, they don't even get a high return on the money invested in this business.
Therefore, at some point, change is bound to happen.
现在,各位,他们的利润率几乎固定,非常稳定,在12%到13%之间。有意思的是,他们的收入增长在加快。过去十年每年4%,过去五年每年9.5%,过去三年每年接近11%。我想知道这其中有多少增长是由人工智能热潮推动的。
各位,除了所有这些债务之外,股息几乎消耗了他们自由现金流的一半。所以,这让我对这家公司有点不安。
And now, folks, their profit margin is almost fixed, very stable , between 12 and 13%. Now, something interesting is that their revenue growth is increasing. 4% annually over the past ten years, 9.5% annually in the past five years , and nearly 11% annually in the last three years.
I wonder how much of this growth is driven by the artificial intelligence boom. And guys, on top of all that debt, dividends consume almost half of their free cash flow. So, this makes me feel a little uneasy about this company.
资本回报率低。我现在想知道,尽管自由现金流低,尽管他们有很多债务,为什么长期债务前面还是打了一个勾。我们来查一下,因为我想知道他们的资产负债表中有多少是欠别人、为尚未完成的工作而欠的钱。
所以,各位,有意思的地方在于,他们很多债务是流动负债。好消息是,它的估值只有120亿美元,这看起来是一大笔钱,但流动资产达到147.7亿美元。因此,他们有足够的现金和流动资产来偿还流动债务。
我想我明白为什么还有一个勾,但无论如何这仍是一大笔债务,即使它相当于他们长期债务的4.76倍。问题是,在他们把这么多现金用于支付股息的同时,他们能否足够地提高利润?
Low returns on capital. I now wonder why a checkmark was placed here in front of long-term debt despite the low free cash flow, and despite the fact that they have a lot of debt.
Let's check that out , because I'm wondering how much of their balance sheet is money they owe to others for jobs they haven't completed yet. So, guys, the interesting part here is that a lot of their debt is current liabilities.
The good news is that it is valued at only $12 billion, which seems like a large sum, but current assets amount to $14.77 billion. Therefore, they have enough cash and current assets to pay their current obligations.
I think I understand why there's still a checkmark , but it's still a significant amount of debt anyway, even if it's equivalent to 4.76 times their long-term obligations. The question is, can they increase their profits sufficiently while they are consuming so much of their cash in paying dividends?
分析师预计,未来四年每股收益将从13.50美元增长到24美元。这是非常大的增长,年增速超过两位数,但营收似乎正接近330亿到440亿的上限。我认为我的困惑在于,他们的利润率这么低,利润怎么能增长这么多,而营收的增长又不如利润那么多……
这在我看来说不通。所以,这就是我对这家公司感到有些困惑的地方。
Well, analysts expect earnings to grow from $13.50 per share to $24 over the next four years. This is very large growth , exceeding double digits annually, but revenues appear to be reaching their ceiling of 33 billion to 44 billion .
I think my confusion stems from how their profits can grow so much while their gross profit margin is so low, and their revenues are not growing as much as their profits...it does n't make sense to me.
So, this is where I get a little confused about this company.
各位,这是我做的伊顿(Eaton)10年分析。我知道营收增长正在加速。我观察到了这一点,并想知道其中有多少是人工智能带来的。所以,我要做的是问问我们的人工智能:过去三年伊顿的营收增长中,有多少可以归因于人工智能。
Now, folks, here's my 10-year analysis of Eaton. Guys, I know revenue growth is accelerating. I observe it and wonder how much of it is due to artificial intelligence. So , what I'm going to do is ask our artificial intelligence, how much of Eaton's revenue growth over the past three years has been attributable to artificial intelligence.
所以,我要做的是问问我们的人工智能:过去三年伊顿的营收增长中,有多少可以归因于人工智能。目前没有足够的公开信息来准确计算伊顿三年营收增长中具体有多少可以归因于人工智能。伊顿会披露数据中心的需求,但并没有始终把AI相关销售与传统云计算数据中心区分开来。
好,这让我不禁想问:那他们的数据中心份额是多少?各位,这是个谜。我想知道为什么这么模糊,因为如果模糊,就意味着伊顿自己并没有披露。所以我想问,伊顿为什么不愿意披露这些信息?原因有两个,而且两者截然不同。
So, what I'm going to do is ask our artificial intelligence, how much of Eaton's revenue growth over the past three years has been attributable to artificial intelligence. There is not enough publicly available information to calculate an accurate share of Eaton's 3-year revenue growth that can be attributed specifically to artificial intelligence.
Eaton reports on demand for data centers, but does not consistently separate AI-related sales from traditional cloud computing data centers. Okay, this makes me wonder: Okay, what is their data center share?
So, guys, it's a mystery. Now, I wonder why it is vague, because if it is vague, it means that it has not been disclosed by Eaton herself. So I wonder, why would Eaton not want to disclose that information?
There are two reasons, and they are very different from each other.
第一,即使没有数据中心,他们也是一家非常大的公司,这大概完全正常。第二,数据中心对他们来说是一个非常重要的因素,以至于他们不想因此吓到别人。
The first is that they are a very large company even without data centers, which is probably perfectly normal. Or secondly, data centers are such a big factor for them that they don't want to scare people with that.
我的看法是,当你看到过去五年营收出现如此高的增长率,而且这与云计算成为一个巨大现象相吻合时,我不能假设这种情况还会持续很久。
My view is that when you see such a large rate of growth in revenue over the past five years, and in line with cloud computing becoming a huge phenomenon, I can't assume that this will continue for much longer.
因此,我选择了稍微保守一些的做法。我为未来十年的营收增长选了4%、7%和10%。接下来是利润率和自由现金流。利润率往往会更高一些。我会填11%、11.5%和12%。
Therefore, I chose a slightly more conservative approach. I have chosen 4%, 7% and 10% for revenue growth over the next ten years. Next, profit margin and free cash flow. The profit margin tends to be higher. I will put 11%, 11.5% and 12%.
各位,我实际上会重点关注自由现金流。所以我会把利润率填为零。别担心,它仍然会给我需要的数字。接下来,十年后我会给这家公司分配多少市盈率或市自由现金流倍数?各位,我不认为这是一门了不起的生意。
资本回报率低。是的,他们在改善,但我不放心给它一个很高的倍数。
Guys, I'm actually going to focus on free cash flow. So I will put zeros in my profit margin. Don't worry, he will still give me the numbers I need. Next, what is the price-to-earnings ratio or price-to-free cash flow that I will allocate to this company 10 years from now?
Well, guys, I don't think this is an amazing business. Low return on capital. Yes, they are improving, but I am not comfortable allocating a large multiplier to it.
他们还有少量债务。是的,这已经不再是我们支柱上的一个“X”标记,但对公司来说仍是一笔不小的债务,而且我不喜欢这种现金分配。
They also have a small amount of debt. Yes, it's no longer an "X" mark on our pillars, but it's still a significant debt for the company, and I don't like that cash distribution.
因此,我设定了13倍、16倍和19倍自由现金流。这仍大致处于股市平均水平附近,但并没有超出预期。当然,还有我想在不留安全边际的情况下达到的9.5%目标。
Therefore, I set 13, 16, and 19 times the free cash flow. It's still around the average for the stock market, but nothing exceeding expectations. And of course, the 9.5 percent target I want to achieve without a safety margin.
这里我们关注自由现金流。我们得到低价125、高价269、平均价180。各位,按今天的当前价格,抱歉,克利夫兰,如果我的平均假设成立,这大致相当于未来十年的盈亏平衡点。
Here we focus on free cash flow. We have a low price at 125, a high price at 269, and an average price at 180. Guys, based on today's current price, sorry Cleveland, that's a current yield that's roughly equivalent to the breakeven point over the next 10 years if my average assumptions hold true.