GOOGL 是长期基本面买入标的:AI 提振搜索与 YouTube;上季度云业务收入增速加快至 80% 以上,利润率同步扩张。搜索增速重新加快至十几%中段;DeepMind 持续领先 Anthropic/OpenAI。业绩强劲,市盈率接近大盘水平,不过 AI 可能对搜索构成压力。
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我们就继续聚焦七大科技巨头,不过在科技板块里,我们深入聊聊 Alphabet。今天早上我看到一些分析师对云业务的业绩和利润率给出了正面评价。那么,整体情况到底怎么样?
Let's stick with the Big Seven companies, but let's delve deeper into Alphabet within the technology focus section. Well, I've seen some positive comments from analysts this morning about the cloud's performance and profit margins. Um, what 's the big picture here ?
是的,完全同意。Google 作为一家公司有着非常独特的地位。它有一块核心业务,明显受益于人工智能。自从开始建设人工智能基础设施以来,这块业务的收入出现了显著加速。它利用人工智能来增加查询量,并改善搜索和 YouTube 上的广告定向。
此外,它还拥有垂直整合的云业务。它有自己的芯片,有自己的模型,也有自己的数据中心。因此,这是一家定位独特的公司,在业务的多个领域都能借助人工智能。
Yes, absolutely. Google has a very unique position as a company. They have a core business that clearly benefits from artificial intelligence. This activity has seen a significant acceleration in revenues since the beginning of building the artificial intelligence infrastructure .
Using artificial intelligence to increase queries and improve ad targeting in search and YouTube. Moreover, they have a vertically integrated cloud. They have their own chips. They have their own models.
They also have their own data centers. Therefore, it is a uniquely positioned company that leverages artificial intelligence in multiple areas of its business.
当我们思考这家公司的价值,以及如何拆解 Google 在做的事情时。她也提到自己受益于人工智能。那么,你目前对它整体价值的看法是什么?比如,今天有一位分析师说这只股票有上涨20%的潜力。
这和今天承压的许多科技股不一样,对吧?事实上,这只股票目前正在上涨。对于 Google Cloud 未来如何继续成为这个故事的关键部分,整体前景怎么看?
When we think about the value of the company and how to break down what Google works on. She also mentioned that she benefits from artificial intelligence. Um , what is your overall view of its value at the moment?
I mean, for example, one analyst said today that the stock has the potential to rise by 20%. Um, this is different from many of the technology names that are under pressure today, isn't it?
In fact, the stock is currently rising. What is the overall outlook on how Google Cloud can remain a key part of the story going forward?
没错。“Google Cloud”目前是一个很有意思的故事。它已经在很大程度上成为一个大规模、快速增长的云计算平台。我认为上季度收入增速加快到了80%以上。我认为市场预期在9月这个季度还会再次加速。
这里的一部分驱动力是,他们开始对外销售“TPU”芯片。因此,这成了一个额外的收入来源。目前规模还小,预计明年会开始贡献更多。除了收入增长,在所有主要平台都受制于供应紧张、价格非常坚挺的环境下,云业务的利润率实际上还扩大了。
而且 Google 的高管表现不错。所以,你有一块收入在加速、利润率在扩大的云业务,它已经开始作为一个垂直整合的云平台脱颖而出。
correct. "Google Cloud" is an interesting story right now. It has become something of a fast-growing cloud computing platform on a large scale. I believe revenue growth accelerated to over 80% in the last quarter.
I think there are expectations that this will accelerate again in the September quarter. Part of the driving force here is that they started selling "TPU" chips externally. Therefore, this became an additional source of revenue.
It is small now. It is expected to start contributing more next year. In addition to revenue growth, cloud profit margins actually expanded in this environment where all major platforms were suffering from supply constraints, and prices were very strong.
Um, and the executive performance at Google was good. So, you have a cloud business whose revenues are accelerating and whose profit margins are expanding, and it has begun to distinguish itself as a vertically integrated cloud platform .
那么,搜索业务目前依然表现稳健。那些关于人工智能的担忧已经消退了吗?搜索,搜索目前依然表现稳健。我认为,如你所知,有些担忧肯定会持续存在。但我觉得搜索业务发生的情况非常有意思。
如果你注意到了,他们几乎把 Google Search 变成了——按我自己的理解——一种聊天机器人体验。因此,他们推出了两类新产品:AI Mode 和 AI 搜索概览。到目前为止,底线是,所发生的一切明显带来了查询量的增长。
所以,人们来到 Google Search,查找东西,然后聊天机器人体验带来更多互动、参与和更多查询,因此带来更多收入。所以,这是一块年收入几千亿美元的业务,现在还在增长,增速再次加快到百分之十几的中段。
所以,它实际上仍然占据广告总支出的一部分,这真是一个了不起的故事。因此,我仍然认为搜索业务很强劲。我确实认为,存在这样的担忧:人工智能,或者说各种不同的、新的、原创的人工智能实验,可能会在未来几年略微影响搜索业务。
So, the research is still holding up well. Have those concerns about artificial intelligence faded away? Research, research is still holding up well at the moment . I think, as you know, there are concerns that are sure to persist.
But I think what happened with the research was very interesting . If you've noticed , they've almost turned Google Search into , in my own interpretation, a chatbot experience.
Therefore, they introduced two new types of products: AI Mode and AI Research Overview . The bottom line so far is that what has happened has clearly led to an increase in queries.
So, people come to Google Search, they look for something, and then the chatbot experience drives more interaction, engagement, and more queries, and therefore more revenue generation.
So, this is a business, you know, with annual revenues of a few hundred billion dollars, which is growing now, its growth rate has accelerated again to the mid- tens. So, it actually still accounts for a share of total advertising spending, which is a truly remarkable story.
Therefore, I still believe the research is strong. I really think there are concerns that artificial intelligence, or different, new and original experiments with artificial intelligence, may marginally affect research work , you know, over the coming years.
是的,当我们谈到 Aragon 模型发布后对 DeepMind 和 Gemini 的预期时,比如,法国巴黎银行刚刚谈到 Google 在进入企业市场时在价格上低于一些竞争对手,这算是偏正面的,他们给 Google 的目标价是425,抱歉,目标价是420,而 Google 目前估值是349。
他们谈到 Google 在价格上低于一些人工智能竞争对手,这听起来可能是件好事。我已经谈了很多关于利润率的问题。这是不是就是它契合的地方?
Yes, and as we talk about expectations for DeepMind and Gemini after the launch of the Aragon model, for example, we had BNP Paribas just talking about Google undercutting some competitors in terms of price as it now moves into enterprise, and it was kind of positive, and they have a target of 425, sorry, a target of 420 for Google, which is currently valued at 349.
Well, they talked about Google undercutting some AI competitors in price, and that sounds like something that could be good. I have spoken a lot about the margins. Is this the place where that would fit?
我认为 DeepMind 的战略更侧重于保持领先、与 Anthropic 和 OpenAI 保持竞争,并继续以良好的节奏发布真正强大的模型。因此,我认为他们相比今天的 Gemini 更不侧重于变现。
我认为他们更侧重于与 OpenAI 和 Anthropic 保持竞争力,而且我认为他们相信,拥有模型层从长期看会是一个制胜战略,很多经济回报会流向拥有模型的公司,而从长期看,最终只有两家公司会脱颖而出、站在最前沿。
I think the strategy at DeepMind is much more focused on staying ahead, staying in competition with Anthropic and OpenAI, you know, and continuing to release really strong models at a good pace.
Therefore, I think they are less focused on monetization than Gemini is today. I think they are much more focused on staying competitive with OpenAI and Anthropic, and I think they believe that having a model layer will be a winning strategy in the long run, that a lot of the economic returns will go to the companies that own the models, and that in the long run only two companies will emerge at the forefront .
这就是发明了“Transformer”模型的公司。我相信,如果有哪家公司能在这个不断演变的领域参与竞争,那就是 Google。这家公司一直以工程和研究能力著称。DeepMind 也是一家非常成功的人工智能研究实验室。所以,是的,我绝对认为他们能够继续在这里竞争。
This is the company that invented the " Transformer" model. I believe that if there is any company capable of competing in this evolving field, it is Google. A company that has always been known for its engineering and research capabilities.
DeepMind is also a highly successful artificial intelligence research laboratory . So, yes, I definitely think they will be able to continue competing here.
是的。我也在研究其他一些东西,比如他们在能源领域的燃料电池项目。这个故事里还有不同的子故事,但作为一家庞大的云计算公司、七大科技巨头之一,它整体上看起来像一家顶级公司吗?你认为这只股票有上涨潜力吗?还是说很多好消息已经反映在价格里了?
Yes. I was also looking into other things, such as their fuel cell project in the energy sector . There are different stories within the story, but as a huge cloud computing company and part of the Big Seven , does it look like a top-tier company overall ?
Do you see potential for the stock to rise? Or has a lot of good news already been reflected in its price?
不,我绝对是从更长的时间维度来看它。这是一家领先且值得信赖的公司。它明显是人工智能的受益者。它是人工智能技术开发的先驱。这是一家基本面整体在加速的公司。利润率在扩大。收入在加速。
盈利增长强劲,而且交易估值接近市场的市盈率水平。因此,我认为这仍然是一项基本面投资。
No, I'm definitely looking at it over a longer time frame. This is a leading and trusted company. She is a clear beneficiary of artificial intelligence. It is a pioneer in the development of artificial intelligence technology.
It is a company where the fundamentals are generally accelerating. The margins are expanding. Revenues are accelerating. Strong earnings growth and trading at a level close to the market's price-to-earnings ratio.
Therefore, I believe this is still a fundamental investment.
是的。John,很高兴见到他。我们今天很高兴有你参与。如你所知,从现在到月底,我们会密切关注 Google 的一些关键业绩,以及它们告诉我们的信息。你想就其中任何一点发表看法吗?
最后说一句,John。这是关于 Google 的利润,还是整体的利润?
Yes. John, it's great to see him. We were delighted to have you with us today. As you know , from now until the end of the month, we will be closely monitoring some key results from Google and what they tell us.
Would you like to comment on any of that? One last word, John. Is this about Google's profits or profits in general?
不,是 Google 的利润,或者说你最后想补充的内容,我们应该关注什么,以及我们对整体情况怎么看。嗯,我的意思是,在市场当前所发生情况的背景下,仍然存在关于人工智能回报以及所有投入其中的资本的争论。
公司能从这些资本上获得回报吗?我认为像 Google 以及其他一些云计算公司已经证明,它们能带来强劲的投资资本回报,我预计在本月晚些时候公布财报时,我们会继续听到这样的信息。
No, Google's profits or what you would add in the end , what we should be watching, and how we feel about the overall situation. Well, I mean, in the context of what's happening in the market , there's still this debate about the return on artificial intelligence and all this capital that's being invested in it.
Will companies get a return on this capital? I think companies like Google and some other cloud computing companies have already proven that they deliver strong returns on invested capital, and I expect we will continue to hear such messages when earnings are announced later this month.
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这个频道对 $GOOGL 的历次判断
Schwab Network 在这只股票上共 11 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。