$HOOD · Meet Kevin · 2026-10-27
HOOD 是看涨机会,但不是现在买入;目前仅有 5% 至 10% 的折价,说话者会等待更低的价格(70 多或 69),或等待比特币上涨,也可能等待伊朗协议。月活跃用户和净利润不及预期令人失望,但 PEG 约为两倍、对应约 20% 的预期增长,看起来偏低,且资产负债表强劲;预测市场利润率仍需验证。
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Robin Hood 刚刚公布了财报。月活跃用户数不及预期,这让人们有点紧张。净利润也同样不及预期。但真正让人兴奋的是月活跃用户数。所以有一种印象是,也许他们正在做的是试图向人们发送更多信息,比如“嘿,你终于拿到你的 Robin Hood 金卡了,来加入我们吧”,以此让人们重新回到应用里。
Robin Hood just reported earnings. Monthly active users came in out of miss and it's making people a little bit nervous. Their net income missed as well. But those monthly active users are what get people really excited.
And so there's some impression that maybe what they're doing is they're trying to send people more, hey, you finally have your Robin Hood gold card. Come join us to get people back into the app.
而正因如此,他们的信贷损失拨备大幅飙升。信贷损失从2600万增加到本季度的7100万,增长了173%。此外,他们的运营成本也上升了不少,本季度从3300万增加到7900万。
Uh and as a result of that, their provision for credit losses has skyrocketed. I mean, you went from 26 million on credit losses to 71 in the quarter, up 173%. Plus, their operation costs have gone up quite a bit from 33 million to 79 million in the quarter.
其中一部分原因是推出预测市场扩张的费用,这是他们与 Rthera 合作做的,就在世界杯之后,并正在逐步扩大规模。
Some of this is because of the expenses on launching the uh prediction market expansion that they've done with Rthera in uh uh the you know, right after the World Cup and sort of scaling this out.
他们声称 Rotha 现在为他们带来了超过1亿美元的年度经常性收入,这真是太棒了。这确实表明预测市场里有很多钱可赚。
They argue that Rotha is now making them over a hundred million dollars in annual recurring revenue, which is freaking awesome. And it really shows there's a lot of money to be made in the prediction markets.
而且由于他们不像证券交易所那样受到监管,你不需要有一个经纪自营商,然后再有一个单独的交易所,再有一个单独的清算公司。你可以让这三者都由 Robin Hood 与 Roa 合作来承担。
这给了他们更多机会去获取价值链的不同环节,基本上就是赚更多的钱,你知道谁不喜欢赚更多的钱呢。
And because they're not regulated in a way that stock exchanges are, you don't have to have a broker dealer and then a separate exchange and then a separate clearing company. You can kind of have all three of those be Robin Hood in partnership with Roa.
It gives them more opportunity to pick up different parts of that value chain and basically make more dollars which you know who doesn't like making more dollars.
问题在于他们并没有赚更多的钱。他们的费用在这边涨得太多了,以至于总费用——尽管 Vlad 开始削减成本,说实话他已经削减成本好几年了——但尽管 Vlad 成功将 GNA 成本削减了12%,营销支出也只增加了2%。
The problem is they didn't make more dollars. Uh their expenses went up so much over here that their total expenses even though Vlad started cutting cost well he's been cutting costs for a few years honestly but even though Vlad managed to cut GNA costs by 12% and only spent 2% more on marketing.
这帮人在营销上出了名地有点吝啬。我得说,而且说实话他们有一些好产品,所以他们其实不必花更多钱,该表扬的地方就得表扬。
These guys are notoriously a little stingy on marketing. I will say uh and honestly they've got some good products so they don't really have to spend more right so you got to give credit where credit's due.
尽管他们在这方面非常自律,但他们的运营费用整体仍然上涨了16%。
Uh even though they were very disciplined over here their operating expenses were still up 16% overall.
所以这让一些人有点摸不着头脑,心想:好吧,我们这边都这么紧缩了,怎么这些费用还涨这么多?这会不会是因为我们把金卡当作亏损引流产品来用?
Uh and so you know that that led to some people scratching their heads a little bit going okay you know how come if we're being so tight over here are these exploding this much?
Is this potentially because we're using the gold card as a loss leader?
我的看法历来是,答案是肯定的。3%返现的金卡很可能是在亏钱,我们从历史上也看到确实如此。它是个亏钱的东西。我们还没有所有细节,因为他们的10Q还没发布。过几天就会出来。但这是他们的财报发布。
通常我们发现的是,金卡让 Robin Hood 亏钱。它本质上是一个亏损引流产品,目的是让人们进入平台并经常使用应用。
Now, my opinion historically has been the answer is yes. Uh the gold card at 3% cash back is probably costing and we've seen this historically that it does. It's a money loser.
We don't have all the details yet because their 10Q is not out yet. It'll be out in a couple days. But this is their earnings release. And usually what we find is that the gold card loses Robin Hood money.
It's essentially a loss leader to get people into the platform using the app regularly.
他们还——而且理所应当地——在吹嘘 Agentic AI 交易,这挺酷的,你可以通过编程方式设置你想要的潜在交易方式。
They're also bragging uh and rightfully so about Agentic AI trading, which is kind of cool, where you can programmatically set up how you want to potentially trade.
我猜他们有20万客户在使用 Agentic 交易账户,股票交易按10个基点收费。那大约只有160万美元的收入。所以这真的是杯水车薪。
They've got, I guess, 200,000 customers using Agentic trading accounts at 10 basis points on stocks. That's only about $1.6 million of revenue. So, it's really a drop in the bucket.
如果你真的想看到他们赚更多钱,你真的需要那些代理来交易期权。但你可以看出他们试图做的是再次增长,因为 Robin Hood 通常与比特币紧密相关。稍后我们会详细讨论。
You'd really need those agents trading options if you really want to see them make some more money. But you could see what they're trying to do is grow again because Robin Hood is generally really associated with Bitcoin. More on that in a moment.
但在5月份,Robin Hood 的金卡用户是80万。这里写准确点。他们的金卡用户是80万。而自那以后,这个数字已经暴增到130万。
But in May, Robin Hood was sitting at 800 uh,000 users. Write that correctly there. They were sitting at 800,000 users on their gold card. And since that's exploded to 1.3 million.
所以我认为发生的情况是,他们邀请了更多人多办他们的信用卡,因为我认为他们认为这将有助于发展他们的银行业务。这将有助于发展他们的信托账户。这将有助于发展他们的退休账户。说实话,我认为他们是对的。
So, I think what's happened is they invited a ton of more people to get into their credit card because I think they think that's going to help them grow their banking business.
That's going to help them grow trust accounts. That's going to help them grow their retirement accounts. And honestly, I think they're right.
坦白说,如果我是他们,我会加大金卡邀请的力度。我几乎会说:“好了,各位,谁想要金卡,就可以拿到。”好吗?而且你知道吗?只要你每月逢低买入一次,你就能拿到3%的返现。
Like, frankly, I if I were them, I'd be ramping up these gold card invites. I would almost go, "All right, boys and girls, whoever wants a gold card, you could have it." Okay? And you know what?
You get your 3% cash back as long as you buy the dip once once a month.
老兄,这样人们就会一直不停地打开这个破应用。现在,可能有一些合规方面的原因,让你不能直接叫人们逢低买入。我想你可以说做点什么,比如往你的股票或券商账户里投一点钱。我不知道。我相信你能想出办法来。
Dude, you'd get people opening this damn app all the freaking time. Now, there are probably some compliance reasons as to why you can't tell people to buy the dip. You know, I I suppose you could say do something, you know, fund a little bit towards your stock or brokerage account. I don't know. I'm sure you can figure it out.
但重点是,这只股票现在看起来确实很令人失望,因为月活跃用户不及预期,加密货币收入也在下滑,而且同比又下降了。尽管它确实超出了预期。
But the point is, you know, the stock really seems disappointed right now because of the miss and monthly active users and the decline in crypto revenue, which is down again year-over-year. Although it did beat expectations.
不过,关于 Hood 值得了解的有趣之处在于,它往往会——我们这里也会看看估值——至少在我看来,它往往会与比特币周期保持一致。
The interesting thing to know about Hood, though, is it tends to, and we'll look at the valuation here, too. It tends to align, at least in my opinion, with the Bitcoin cycle.
我们在课程会员的直播里,在69美元时真的非常兴奋,我们当时大力推荐了它。我们在69美元待了几天,在70美元出头待了几周。那时我们真的非常看好 Robin Hood。
Uh we in our course member live streams got really excited about this at $69, and we really pitched this. We were sitting at $69 for a few days. We sat in the low70s for a few weeks. We were really bullish on Robin Hood then.
然后真正把 Hood 抬起来的是什么呢。我不是想抢 Hood 的功劳,但真正把 Hood 抬起来的是比特币周期。比特币一暴涨,Robin Hood 往往就表现很好,因为坦白说,对 Robin Hood 来说,这只是一个高利润率的赚钱渠道。
And then what happened is what really lifted Hood. I mean, I'm not trying to take credit away from Hood, but what really lifted Hood was the Bitcoin cycle. As soon as Bitcoin rockets, man, Robin Hood tends to do well because it's just a high margin place for uh Robin Hood to crank income, frankly.
所以,除了世界杯和预测市场之外,当比特币终于走出这边6万美元左右的这个小寒冬区域,而我们现在一直在8万美元这条线附近来回拉锯,这就是 Hood 当时表现好的原因。
Uh and so you know in addition to the World Cup and prediction markets when Bitcoin finally came out of this little winter territory around 60,000 over here and we've now been rubber rubber banding around this 80,000 line that's what hood was doing well.
问题是,我们又有点看到比特币放缓了,它又稍微拖累了一下。所以我们也就跟着它一起往下拖。我认为这会创造机会,尤其是如果我们能回到70多美元或69美元的话。
Problem is you know we're kind of seeing that slowdown again and Bitcoin and it's a drag a little bit again. So we're kind of dragging right down with it. I think that creates opportunities especially if we can get back down into the 70s or 69.
对任何长期投资者来说,这显然令人失望,因为我认为这家公司做的事情很棒,但它现在的交易价格并没有一个巨大的、诱人的折扣。不像 SoFi 当时那样。
It's obviously disappointing for anybody who's a long-term investor because I think what the company is doing is great, but it's not really trading for like a huge sexy discount right now. Not like what SoFi was.
我们现在在 Robin Hood 上看到的折扣大概是5%到10%。我觉得差不多就是这样。
The discount that we have right now on Robin Hood is maybe 5 to 10%. I think it's pretty close.
但不管怎样,回到 Hood 的实际财务数据,你现在的 PEG 比率大约是2左右。也就是市盈增长比率约为2。市场预期它们每年增长20%。我其实觉得这个预期有点低。我认为如果你推出正确的举措,并且真正在合适的时机触达人们,这里的增长最终可能会大幅提升。我觉得他们能做到。
But anyway, going back to the actual financials here on Hood, you've got right now a PEG ratio of roughly about two. So price earnings growth ratio of about two. Markets are expecting that they're going to grow at 20% per year.
I actually think that's a little bit low. I think you could end up pushing growth here substantially if you pulled the right initiatives and really hit people at the right timing. I think they could do it.
这让我看好 Hood。我会想在当前价位买入还是再等等?说实话,考虑到现在的动能和比特币的位置,要等到伊朗达成协议,或者比特币上涨,因为如果伊朗达成协议,我认为比特币会迅速飙升到102,000美元,真的很快。
而如果 Robin Hood 在这上面滞后,你会希望自己处在这个周期里。
Now that makes me bullish on Hood. Would I want to buy him at a toupe or wait? Honestly, with the momentum right now and where Bitcoin is, until there's a deal on Iran and or Bitcoin rallies, because if there's a deal on Iran, I think Bitcoin will skyrocket up to $102,000 really well, really quickly.
And if Robin Hood lags on that, you'd want to be sort of in that cycle.
当然,这不是个性化的财务建议,但这让我相当兴奋。现在,我们只是处在一种略微下行的动能之中。还有美国银行发布的一个关于保证金的警告。我觉得他们在这件事上有点极端,但 CNBC 报道称,美国银行报告说——这话真拗口——股市的保证金债务增长已大幅放缓,这正在市场中制造警示信号。
Not personalized financial advice, of course, but that makes me pretty excited. Right now, we're just sort of in a little bit of a down momentum uh argument. And there's also a bit of a margin warning that Bank of America came out with.
Now, you know, I I think they're being a little extreme on this, but CNBC is reporting that Bank of America is reporting, that's a mouthful, that margin debt growth has slowed sharply in the stock market and this is creating warning signs in the market.
显然,FINRA 的保证金数据增长放缓了,他们基本上是在说:“嘿,我们的增长速度比5月份慢了。”我心里想,兄弟,这不是废话吗。老兄,4月份达成协议之后,所有人都在买股票。就像去年4月一样。
就像解放之后一样。东西变得那么便宜。就像,咱们去狂欢吧。来吧,Bobby。咱们去狂欢吧。每个人都从他们能伸手够到的每一个破洞里往外掏保证金,我们就是这么搞出 Leo fold 的。
所以,在 Leo fold 基本上被公开处决之后,保证金债务增长当然会放缓,然后他拿着剩下的钱一头扎进期权里,而且他很可能又在那上面被坑了。人们正在吸取教训:在波动剧烈的市场里,债务没那么好。
Apparently, uh, FINRA margin data has grown at a slower pace and they're basically saying, "Hey, we're growing slower than we did in May." And I'm thinking to myself, bro, no SH9T, man.
Dude, everybody was buying stocks in April after we got a deal, man. It was just like April of last year, you know? It was like after liberation. Things got so cheap. It's like, let's go party.
Come on, Bobby. Let's go party. Everybody was pulling out margin out of every freaking orphice they could get their hands on and that's how we ended up getting Leo fold. So of course margin debt growth is slower after we got Leo fold getting publicly executed basically and then he goes yolos into options with the leftover money that he has and he's probably already gotten hosed on that again.
People are learning lessons that debt is not that great in a volatile market.
但不管怎样,如果你看2026年5月的峰值,它并没有我们之前看到的2000年3月或2007年那些峰值那么高。我其实认为我们可能更接近这些周期中段的上涨行情,而不是某种会最终把我们推入衰退的永久性顶部。
But anyway, if you look at the peak of May of 2026, it's not as high as some of these prior peaks that we've seen during March of 2000 or 2007. I actually think we're probably closer to somewhere in these mid cycle rallies, not some form of permanent peak that's going to end up dumping us into a recession.
显然,这也可能是 Robin Hood 表现的一个影响因素,因为如果人们认为市场要下跌,那会怎样?交易股票的人会更少。事情就是这样。比如,我们注意到在市场大跌的日子里,更少的人有兴趣参与股市。
更多人想知道发生了什么,到底怎么回事,但真正有兴趣买入的人更少,因为存在真实的恐惧。这意味着人们甚至根本不会打开他们的 Robin Hood 应用。这也可能是问题之一。
Obviously, that could be a contributor to Robin Hood's performance as well, though, because if people think the market's going to go down, well, guess what? Fewer people are going to trade stocks.
That's the way it is. Like, you know, we notice on really red days in the market, fewer people uh are interested in uh you know, being involved in the stock market. More people want to know what's going on, like what the hell is happening, but fewer people are actually interested in buying because there's real fear.
That means people just aren't even opening up their Robin Hood app. That could be one of the problems, too.
市场下跌太久,人们就不想打开应用。他们不想看。他们有点像非礼勿视。我不知道。我认为比特币上涨时他们会表现很好。在那之前,他们真的必须证明自己能在预测市场上把利润率做起来。
You know, market's going down for too long. People don't want to open the app. They don't want to look. They're kind of like monkey see no evil. I don't know. I think they do great when Bitcoin rallies.
Until then, they've really got to prove that they can grow out these margins on prediction markets.
而且预测市场的竞争非常激烈。比如,如果我要说出一个我认为很棒的预测市场,我自己也在用,而且我觉得它们很棒,那可能是 Khi。所以 Koshi,你这里有个小横幅。他们是这个频道的赞助商,也是这个初创公司的赞助商。
你在 meettokevin.com/prediction 注册 Koshi 可以获得25美元免费额度。你也可以扫描二维码。完成第一笔交易就能获得25美元。
And there is a lot of competition for the prediction markets. Uh like if I was going to name a prediction market that I thought was a great prediction market, I personally use it as well and I find they're great.
Well, that might be Khi. So Koshi, you got a little banner here. They are a sponsor of the channel, uh the sponsor of the startup. Uh, you get a free $25 when you sign up for Koshi at meettokevin.com/prediction.
You can also scan the QR code. You get $25 when you make your first trade.
但这些预测市场面临很多竞争,不只是 Robin Hood。我知道 Robin Hood 想进入这个领域,但 Robin Hood 如果真的想发展预测业务、把用户吸引到应用里,大概率得加强营销。
But there's a lot of competition for these prediction markets. It's not just Robin Hood. And I know Robin Hood wants in the game, but there's, you know, Robin Hood's probably going to have to step up their marketing if they really want to grow the prediction game and get people into the app.
我认为他们推出信用卡正是这么做的:也许我们可以用亏损引流的方式把人吸引进来,因为现在没法靠加密货币引流,加密货币没那么让人兴奋了。所以,让他们通过银行服务进来,或者通过 Roth 账户或信托账户进来,因为人们在年底会更关注自己的退休账户。
遗憾的是,这些东西并不能带来那种很吸引人的增长。
And that's I think exactly what they're doing with their credit card is, hey, maybe we can loss lead people in because we can't loss people in lead people in with crypto right now because it's just not as exciting.
So, let's get them in on banking or let's get them in on Roths or trust accounts because people focus on their retirement accounts a little bit more at the end of the year. Those things unfortunately just don't drive that much sexy growth, if you will.
Robin Hood 基于交易的收入同比增长了19%,这很不错。但人们并没有为此兴奋不已。人们兴奋的是这些其他收入的增长。这些其他收入,正是我们会看到更多新市场收入的地方。预测市场增长了61%,这很棒。
I mean, headline transactionbased revenue at Robin Hood was up 19% year-over-year, which is great. But, you know, people aren't jumping up and down about that. You know, people are excited about these other revenues going up right here.
These other revenues, this is where we're going to see some more of these new market revenues. Prediction markets up 61%. That's great.
所以我唯一的猜测是——因为总体来看这些数字并不差——Robin Hood 下跌的原因就是用户数。因为你在赚钱的地方表现不错。公平地说,你在某些方面按比例多花了一些钱,那些可能是你的亏损引流项目。但总体资产负债表状况很好。
So, my only guess, because overall, these numbers aren't bad. My overall guess here is in terms of why Robin Hood's down is just the user numbers. You you because where you're making money, you're doing well.
Uh you are in fairness spending a little bit more proportionately. Those could be your loss leaders. But overall balance sheets in a great spot.
如果我们来看看这里的一些项目,一起看一下。我们有证券、贷款、应付用户款,就算作122 24。我有应收款和预留现金,加起来大约23。所以这些几乎抵消了。这些是你的客户基础,几乎抵消了。
零碎股和这个抵消,这意味着我们实际上的账单大约是13亿美元。我们在这里标出来。这些是你的账单,好吧,我们这里只是标出个位数。然后这里是你的现金。公司有大量现金,这非常好。
Uh if we go take a look at uh some of these here, let's do it together. So we've got securities, loans, payables to users. Let's call it 122 24. I got receivables and cash set aside.
That works out to about 23. So those are almost washed. These are your consu customer bases right here. Almost washed right here. Fractional gets washed with this, which means we really have bills of about $1.3 billion.
Uh we'll highlight that right here. So these are your bills and okay, we're just highlighting single digits, I guess, here. And then here's your cash. You got plenty of freaking cash at the company, which is fantastic.
所以总体来看,资产负债表不错,现金流也在。收入在增长,可能不如历史上那么快,因为加密货币有点放缓,但预测市场那边正在起来。只是有竞争。你需要更多理由让人们打开应用。对 Robin Hood 这样的公司来说,这算是更成熟的增长阶段。
这就是为什么这类公司的股票有时增长会放缓,因为那种前进的势头慢下来了,而股市不喜欢这样。
So, overall, balance sheets's good, cash flows there. We've got revenues that are growing, maybe not as much as historically because crypto is a little bit slower, but the prediction market side's coming in.
Just got competition. You need more reasons to get people to the app. And that is kind of a more mature growth phase for a company like Robin Hood. That's why sometimes growth can slow down at companies like this on the stock because that's that momentum that forward momentum slows and the stock market doesn't like that.
再看看这里的保证金债务部分。有人会认为保证金债务下降对 Robin Hood 也不利,因为如果人们借的债少了,也许他们借得更少,付给 Robin Hood 的利息也更少。我们确实看到净支付的利息也下降了,净利息收入同比下降9%。有意思。
Taking a look again at this margin debt piece here. Some would argue that this decline in margin debt is also bad for uh Robin Hood because if people are taking out uh less debt then maybe they're borrowing less and they're paying less interest to Robin Hood.
We did see net interest paid actually go down as well right here. net interest revenue down 9% year-over-year. Interesting.
现在,如果我们跳到这边,可以看到保证金债务仍接近纪录高位。这些是名义数字,不是增长率,是保证金债务的名义数字。你可以看到我们确实经历了清算带来的下降,但还没能超过那个水平。我认为有很多紧张情绪,因为伊朗、选举等等。
不过很有可能——谁知道呢?选举结束、明天之后美联储也定了,我们也许某天会达成协议。是的,情况最终可能对 Robin Hood 相当有利。
Now, uh if we jump on over here, we can see margin debt remains near its record. These are nominal numbers. So, rather than growth rates, these are nominal numbers of margin debt.
You can see we did have that drop in liquidations, but we just haven't grown past that yet. I think there's a lot of nervousness because of Iran and the election and otherwise.
Really good shot though that hey, who knows? elections done, Fed's done after tomorrow, and we end up maybe getting a deal one of these days. Yeah, things could end up doing pretty well for Robin Hood.
不过美国银行看到了其他市场信号,包括信用利差扩大、高收益债收益率高企。我们今天早上谈过信用利差。我们实际上认为它们已经见顶,这对市场其实是看涨的。当市场看涨时,Robin Hood 往往也会看涨。
Bank of America sees other market signs though, including higher credit spreads, high on high yields. So, we talked about credit spreads this morning. We actually think they have peaked out, which is actually bullish for the market.
When the market goes bullish, a hood tends to go bullish.
美国银行还说,资金正在轮动到防御性板块和医疗保健。嗯,喜欢防御性板块和医疗保健。问题在于,你可能最终会把这些视为泡沫迹象。这是他们的论点。我觉得这有点离谱。这些动态进一步证明市场正继续走向更像泡沫的状态。
但在那种情况下,如果人们认为市场要出什么大问题,那显然券商不会表现特别好,比如 Robin Hood。
Bank of America also says there's a rotation towards defensives and healthc care. Well, like defensives and healthcare. And the problem with that is that you might end up seeing those as bubble signs.
I that's what they're arguing. I think this is a little looney cooney here. Uh these dynamics provide further evidence that the market continue to move [music] towards a more bubble-like state.
But in a place like that, if people think there's going to be some kind of poopy dupy in the market, then obviously a brokerage isn't going to do super well like Robin Hood.
总之,我认为那里有机会。我可能会等 Robin Hood 价格更低时再买,但这是我的看法。
So anyway, I think there are opportunities there. Uh I would probably wait for a lower price on Robin Hood, but that's my [music] take.
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这个频道对 $HOOD 的历次判断
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