$HOOD · The Motley Fool · 2026-10-28
两位主持人都持有 HOOD,并仍称其长期是一门好生意,但近期可能波动较大:有资金账户环比仅增长 340,000,净存款没有上升,净利息收入同比下降。预测市场如今贡献收入,但说话者怀疑这能否构建长期生意,且 HOOD 仍具周期性。
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我确实想聊的一个,是市场的反应,开盘时这只股票下跌了约6%,就是 Robin Hood。你持有 Robin Hood 的股票吗?
One that I did want to talk about uh in the market's reaction stock was down about 6% as the market opened is Robin Hood. Um and this is I do you own shares of Robin Hood?
我也持有 Robin Hood 的股票。但对我来说,最大的担忧是,这本应是一家成长型公司,尤其是当你付出它们现在交易的那种估值倍数时。这个季度环比仅新增34万融资客户,增长相当乏力。
>> I I also own shares of Robin Hood. But the big concern for me, this this should be a growth company, especially if you're paying the kind of multiple that they're trading for.
This funded customer growth of just 340,000 customers quarter over-arter is pretty anemic.
这些会员在增加越来越多的产品。我们在 Robin Hood 身上也看到了同样的趋势。它们的变现能力稍微好了一些,但用户数增长不快这一事实是个很大的担忧。
Those members are adding more and more products. You know we're seeing the same that same trend with Robin Hood. They're monetizing a little bit better but the fact that their user numbers are not growing very quickly is a big concern.
净存款也没有增长,这在当前经济环境下算是说得通。人们,尤其是年轻人,也就是 Robin Hood 倾向于吸引的那类人群,并没有像其他人那样赚到那么多多余现金可以用来投资市场。
The net deposits also not going up kind of makes sense in the current economy. People who especially younger people who are the cohorts that Robin Hood tends to attract aren't, you know, making as much excess cash that they're going to be able to invest in the market as maybe others would.
也有一些积极的地方。我很高兴看到退休账户的数字继续以极快的速度增长。这个产品几年前甚至还不存在。很好,它们现在有了托管账户。我在我的 Robin Hood 账户里都有这些东西,我认为用户体验很棒。
There are a few positives. Uh I love seeing that the retirement numbers continue to go up into the an extremely rapid rate. This is a product that didn't even exist a couple of years ago.
Uh so great that they're, you know, they've got custodial accounts now. I've got all of these things uh in my Robin Hood accounts and I think it's a great user experience.
但话虽如此,它们也有很大一部分收入来自预测市场之类的东西。所以我另一个担忧是,它们真正专注于什么,又是如何专注于增长的?它们是专注于以我看到的那些长期正确的方式增长,还是专注于预测市场这种实际上就是赌博的东西?那是眼下最热门的东西。
But that said, they've also been generating a lot of their revenue uh from things like prediction markets. And so one of the concerns that I have too is what are they really focused on and how are they really focused on growing?
Are they focused on growing in sort of the long-term right ways in the way that I I see them or are they focused on this gambling effectively with the prediction markets? That's the hot thing right now.
有些仍然未上市的公司,世界上那些预测市场之类的公司,其中一些的估值已经接近甚至达到 Robin Hood 的水平。所以我理解它们为什么要去追逐其中一些市场,但我就是不认为那必然是你建立长期业务的地方。
You know, some of these companies that are still private poly the poly markets of the world, some of them are getting to a valuation that is approaching even even Robin Hoods. Uh, so I get why they're kind of going after some of those markets, but I just don't think that's necessarily where you're going to build the long-term business.
你想要的是那些会办你的信用卡、会长期投资股票的人,他们不一定像我们看到的日内交易者那样,2020、2021年那会儿,它们疯狂增长,然后突然就崩了。我不是说那会再次发生,但正因如此,如今的估值才更令人担忧一些。
You want people who are going to adopt your credit card, who are going to be investing in stocks long term, who are, you know, not necessarily like we we saw what happened with day traders, uh, with the with, you know, 2020, 2021, they grew like crazy and then suddenly the floor fell out.
Uh, I'm not saying that that's going to happen again, but that's where the valuation is a bit more of a concern today.
看着这些数字,你怎么看?我只想说,它们可以说是幸运的,因为它们确实为此做了规划,但如果没有预测市场,我认为这份财报会糟糕得多,不只是这个季度,而是过去几个季度都是如此,因为加密货币对它们来说已经大幅下滑,而预测市场恰好填补了加密货币留下的空缺。
What would you what do you think looking at the numbers? I'll just say that they are I would say lucky because they they planned for it but without prediction markets I think this would have been a way worse report not just this quarter but for the last couple of quarters cuz crypto has gone down substantially for them and prediction market just picked up what crypto left
所以你可以不喜欢预测市场,那没问题,但我不认为现在有谁能告诉我,说它眼下不是一门好生意,因为这是一门蓬勃发展的生意,所以它肯定在帮它们。
and so it's you can dislike prediction markets that's fine but I don't think It's you anyone can tell me that it's not a good business to have at the moment because it's I mean it's a t it is a thriving business so it's definitely helping them
还有就是,Robin Hood 是一家周期性业务,就目前而言,这一点无法回避,市场下跌对 Robin Hood 就不太有利,市场上涨对 Robin Hood 就更有利,但它们在通过退休账户之类的东西以及信用卡来实现多元化,所以它们正在多元化,以在长期成为一家更稳定的企业,但我仍然认为,这仍会被视为一家周期性企业,纯粹是因为它暴露在市场波动之下,所以这是我们需要知道的。
then the fact that again Robin Hood is a cyclical business that there's no as of right now there's just no way around it market goes down it's not that great for Robin Hood market goes up it's better for Robin Hood but they are diversifying away retirement accounts things like that credit cards so they are diversifying to become a more stable business over the long term but still I I do still this is still going to be viewed as a cyclical business purely because it is exposed to the market's fluctuation so this is something that we we need to know
但没错,融资账户这件事是我上个季度就已经有过的担忧。
but yeah the the funded accounts thing is is is a worry that I had already last last quarter
顺便说一句,上个季度的跃升与它们进行的一次收购有关,我想那是 Bitstamp 开始并表的时候,所以如果你回看那张图,上个季度有一个不错的跃升,但那不是有机增长。
and by the way the jump last quarter was related to an acquisition that they made I think that was the bits when bit stamp uh started to be consolidated uh so if if you go back to that chart there was a nice jump last quarter but it was not organic.
是的。所以这是我认为它们必须去努力解决的事情。我们已经知道它们正通过代币化产品之类的东西向国际扩张。所以它自然应该增长,但它绝对不像两年前那样处于增长模式。所以它仍然是一门好生意,我仍然认为它们长期会表现不错,但确实有几件事需要股东们关注。
Yeah. So this is something I guess that they have to work on. We already know that they are expanding internationally through tokenized uh products and things like that. So naturally it should be it should be growing but it's definitely not in growth mode like two years ago.
So it's still a good business. still think they do well long term but there are certainly couple of things where shareholders need to pay attention to.
是的,还有一点我想强调。因为过去几年净利息收入一直是这项业务的一个巨大驱动力,而这正是我想看到增长的那类东西,因为它比期权交易和加密货币交易更稳定,而你之前提到的加密货币交易已经跌得很惨了。
Yeah, here's the other thing I wanted to highlight. Uh because net interest revenue over the last few years has been just a huge driver of the business and this is the kind of this is the kind of thing I want to see growing because it's a more stable business than options trading and crypto trading which you talked about earlier uh has kind of fallen through the floor.
但这里同样,收入实际上同比下降了。而这里让我担忧的是融资利息。Robin Hood 上的客户所使用的融资额度正在激增。当然,这上升的部分原因是利率上升,而这些融资利率将与利率挂钩。
所以把这个前提考虑进去。但同样,如果我们真的出现回调,如果是2022年那样的回调,如果老天保佑这是个泡沫,我们出现2008年式或2007、2008年式或2000到2003年式的回调,其中一些东西可能会很快消失。
But here again revenue is actually down year-over-year. And the the concern here for me is margin interest. So, the amount of margin that the customers on Robin Hood are using is going is exploding.
Now, that's part part of the reason this is going up is because interest rates are up. Uh, and these margin rates are going to be tied to interest rates. So, put that caveat in there.
But again, if we do have a pullback, if there's a was it 2022 style pullback, if heaven forbid this is a bubble and we have a 2008 style or 2007, 2008 or 2000 to 2003 style pullback, this some of these things can disappear pretty quickly.
所以,我只是觉得有几件事,市场今天可能比几个季度前想得稍微多一些。我还是觉得这长期来看是门好生意,但今天我们看到它可能会走势相当反复。
Um, so just just some things that I think the market is probably thinking a little bit more about today than they were a couple of quarters ago. Um, you know, I I like you, I still think this is a good business long term, but we're seeing today that it it could be pretty choppy.
好。在聊得太远之前,关于Robin Hood还有什么最后的想法吗?我们应该先谈谈anthropic。好。我注意到几件事。黄金订阅用户实际上增长了34%,这不错。再说,订阅这块没问题。
他们还说10月的存款已经超过130亿美元。跟咱们刚看到的那个数字比,这已经是个不错的跳升了,但这其中包含来自Dell家族的60亿美元,用于Trump账户。所以那部分也算在里面。
但这仍然是资金在流入。所以对这门生意来说,这没问题。
Uh, all right. Any final thoughts on Robin Hood before let's we should touch on uh anthropic before we get too far. Yeah. So, what I noted a couple of things. So, gold subscribers actually went up 34% which is good.
Again, subscriptions that's fine. They did also say that October deposits is already above $13 billion. So, compare that to to the number that we've just seen. That's already a a nice jump, but it does include a $6 billion um $6 billion from the Dell family for the uh Trump accounts.
So, that's included in that. But, I mean, it's still it's still money coming in. So, that that's fine for for the business.
现在,我们拭目以待。看看会发生什么,尤其是如果关注点也许不该纯粹放在有资金账户上,但这对这门生意的长期未来来说确实是个非常非常重要的数字,而管理层现在肯定清楚自己该做什么。
Now, we'll see. We'll see what happens, especially if the focus maybe shouldn't be purely on on funded accounts, but it is a very very important number for uh the long-term future of this business, which look, management definitely knows right now what they should be doing.
所以,这是不是一个逢低买入的时机?我不知道。但我们会看第四季度怎么演变,因为我们确实能拿到月度指标。所以至少我们知道这个季度会是什么样子。
So, yeah, is it a buy the deep moment? I don't know. But, uh we'll see how Q4 uh evolves because we do get monthly metrics. So, at least we know how how the the quarter is going to look like.
我还想说的另一点是,我希望他们多花些时间在增长业务上,想办法增加更多会员,而不是搞这些愚蠢的活动,那些看起来就像在烧钱。没有人会因为Vlad穿着飞行服就去用Robin Hood的产品。
The other thing that I just want to put out there is I would love for them to spend more time, you know, growing growing the business, figuring out how to add more members rather than putting on these these silly events that are just seem like lighting money on fire.
Nobody's nobody's adopting a Robin Hood product because, you know, Vlad is in a a like flight suit.
对。飞行服,不管那是几个月前的什么。我就是不喜欢那些。我觉得那种东西,当你股票一路往上涨的时候,是超级好玩,但它并不能推动业务。而现在,我们正处在他们需要推动业务的阶段。
>> Yeah. Pilot suit, whatever that one is was a few months ago. It just it I don't like those. I think those are the kinds of things that are when your stock is going up and to the right, it's it's super fun, but it doesn't drive the business.
And right now, we're at the point where they need to they need to drive the business.
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