IBM 即将公布的财报之路艰难:AI 的普及使客户削减核心 IT 支出,量子计算距产生实际影响还有 10-15 年,软件业务增长在过去两个季度放缓。Confluence 交易使软件利润率变得不明朗;IBM 并非动能型股票;短期内重回 332 美元的可能性不大。
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那么,我接下来要看看 IBM。你对这个话题有什么看法?这个季度非常艰难。第三季度对企业来说总是最困难的;他们既做软件,也做硬件。
So, I'm going to take a look at IBM here. What are your thoughts on this topic? Well, it's been a very difficult quarter. The third quarter is always the most difficult for organizations; well, they work in software, as well as in hardware.
因此,我们会称它们为企业 IT 公司。为什么呢?首先,大家都在休假。因此,第三季度很难达成交易,因为团队有一半人不在,或者因为其他原因。原因并不重要。但这始终是一段艰难的时期。
Therefore, we will call them enterprise IT companies. Why is that? Well, first of all, everyone is on vacation. Therefore, it is very difficult to make deals in the third quarter because half the team is absent or for any other reason.
The reason doesn't matter . But it's always a tough time.
更困难的是引入人工智能。所以,一个合理的理论是,企业,因为 IBM 服务的正是这些企业,会在开发新的 AI 软件和硬件的同时继续其核心支出。但实际上,情况并非如此。他们会削减正常支出,以维持运转。
What makes it even more difficult is introducing artificial intelligence. So, it would be a good theory that companies, because that's what IBM serves , will continue their core spending while they develop new AI software and hardware.
But in practice, that's not what happens. They will cut back on, you know, normal spending to keep things running .
我认为 IBM 在这个第三季度可能会因此受损。最后,还有人工智能的问题。好,他们做人工智能吗?算是吧,但也不完全是。因此,他们不得不依赖量子计算。
I think IBM might suffer from that in this third quarter. Finally , there is the issue of artificial intelligence. Okay, do they work in artificial intelligence? Sort of, but not really.
Therefore, they have to rely on quantum computing.
我得告诉你,我是量子计算的粉丝,但我认为它还需要10到15年才能以任何实际方式产生真正的影响。因此,IBM 在即将发布的财报前面临一条艰难的道路。
And I have to tell you, I am a fan of quantum computing, but I think it will take 10 to 15 years before it has a real impact in any practical way. Therefore, IBM faces a difficult road ahead in its upcoming earnings announcement .
是的,我觉得你提到量子计算很有意思。这在我给你的笔记里,因为你说过:“你看,他们已经为此做好了准备,但我并不真的看到他们会全力投入进行大规模部署。”什么会改变这一局面?因为你是在押注它会在某个时候发生,只是不是现在。
什么会改变他们的现实,让他们在量子计算领域有更大的存在感?
Yes, I thought it was interesting that you mentioned quantum computing. This was in my notes to you because you said, "Look, they are ready for it, but I don't really see them going all out with it for widespread deployment."
What will change the story? Because you're betting on it happening at some point, just not now. What will change their reality to give them a greater presence in quantum computing?
但 IBM 在这个领域肯定领先于许多竞争对手。你看,IBM 的软件业务似乎在持续增长。他们已明显转向更高的利润率和经常性业务。还有 Red Hat 的收购,这至少带来了一些增长,不是吗?
数据软件的增长看起来不错。2026年的现金流预测显示每年增加10亿美元。那么,IBM 的情况是在朝正确方向发展吗?我是说,在237美元这个价位,你怎么看这只股票?情况朝正确方向发展,并不一定意味着股票就会上涨,不是吗?
But IBM is certainly ahead of many of its competitors in this area. Look, I mean, IBM's software business seems to be constantly growing. They have seen a significant shift towards higher profit margins and recurring business.
And we have the Red Hat acquisition, and that has brought at least some growth , hasn't it? You know, are the numbers going well? The growth of data software looks good. Cash flow projections for 2026 indicate an annual increase of $1 billion.
So, are things going in the right direction for IBM? I mean, what do you think of the stock at this price point of 237? It doesn't necessarily mean that if things are going in the right direction, the stock will rise, does it?
正是如此。你提到软件这个话题很好。他们在这方面取得了一些增长。但在过去两个季度,增长开始放缓,不是吗?所以,关键在于增长节奏的变化。它没有保持这种上升势头;它仍然看涨,但不如上一季度那么强。所以,这是一个值得担忧的问题。
exactly . And you know, it's great that you brought up the topic of software. They made some gains there. But in the last two quarters, the gains started to decline, did n't they?
So, it's about changing the pace of gains. It is not maintaining this upward momentum; it is bullish but not as much as the previous quarter. So, this is a cause for concern.
此外,他们大手笔收购了一家叫“Confluence”的公司,这会让事情更加复杂。这会让分析师难以判断情况是在变好还是变坏。因此,这是 IBM 股东本季度应密切关注的一个方面,看看软件,而我们喜欢软件利润率,是否在为公司改善。
In addition , they made a major acquisition of a company called " Confluence," which will make things more complicated. This will make it difficult for analysts to determine whether things are getting better or worse.
Therefore, this is an area that IBM shareholders should pay close attention to this quarter to see whether the software, and we like software profit margins , are improving for the company or not.
是的,那“Watson X”呢?当我们谈论人工智能时,我并没有真正听到多少关于它的消息。我是说,确实有一种感觉,IBM 和人工智能将有助于进一步推动公司未来的增长,但“Watson X”在其中处于什么位置?
在帮助企业开发、部署和管理这些 AI 应用方面,人工智能是一个重要的增长机会吗?它足够好吗?
Yes, what about "Watson X"? I don't really hear much about it when we talk about artificial intelligence. I mean, there is definitely a sense that IBM and artificial intelligence will help to further boost the company's growth in the future, but where does "Watson X" fit into that?
Is artificial intelligence a significant growth opportunity when it comes to helping companies develop, deploy, and manage these AI applications ? Is it good enough?
我不这么认为,因为我们并没有真正听到关于它的消息,不是吗?这挺令人遗憾的,因为也许十年前他们发布它的时候,它真的非常惊艳。但实际上,他们松懈了,而且肯定没有像 OpenAI、Anthropic,甚至 Meta 和 Microsoft 这样的老牌公司那样,投入那么多时间和精力,以同样的热情去开发这个领域。
所以,我认为他们确实在试图缩减 AI 方面的工作,他们掉进了省钱的陷阱,因为五年前它没有取得多大进展,所以他们过早放弃了。
I don't think so because we don't really hear about it, do we ? Which is rather sad because maybe a decade ago when they released it, it was really, you know, absolutely amazing.
But in reality, they were lax, and certainly did not devote as much time and attention to trying to develop this field with the same enthusiasm shown by companies such as OpenAI , Anthropic, and even established companies such as Meta and Microsoft.
So, I think they were really trying to scale back their AI work, and they fell into the trap of saving money, because it wasn't making much progress five years ago, so they gave up prematurely .
但局面还能挽回吗?绝对有可能。事实上,他们真正出名的地方,是与长期合作的客户——那些规模非常大的国际公司——合作,帮助它们实现技术基础设施的现代化。我相信,拥有内部的人工智能能力将使他们能够帮助客户采用这项技术。
这是他们服务中的一个领域,他们应该开始大力推广。
But can the situation be salvaged? Absolutely, that's possible. In fact, what they are really known for is working with their long-standing clients, who are very large international companies, to help them modernize their technological infrastructure.
I believe that having artificial intelligence in-house will enable them to help their customers adopt this technology. This is an area of their services that they should start promoting strongly.
它比237美元的52周高点低了约100美元。最高水平曾是332美元。可以说,它现在比高点低100美元,而在这个阶段只比低点高约40美元。你认为IBM有能力重新回到那些高点吗,300美元或330美元?如果能,什么时候?
It is about $100 lower than its 52- week high of $237. The highest level was $332. Let's say it's $100 below the peaks, and only about $40 higher than its lows at this stage. Do you think IBM is capable of regaining those peaks, $300 or $330? If so, when?
这就是关键问题,不是吗?什么时候?不幸的是,我认为如果你想投资人工智能,人们的注意力已经转向别处了。作为这一部分的引言,你谈到了内存的回归和软件的回归。因此,IBM确实需要努力争取投资者的关注,并且说:“成为我们公司的股东,我们将帮助你在人工智能相关投资组合方面实现增长。”
Well, that's the crucial question, isn't it? when? Well, unfortunately I think if you're trying to invest in artificial intelligence, people have turned their attention elsewhere .
As an introduction to this section, you were talking about the return of memory and the return of software. Therefore, IBM really needs to fight to attract investors' attention and say: " Become an owner of our company and we will help you grow in terms of AI-covered investment portfolios."
好,我们看看会发生什么。我并不乐观。看起来投资者更多是受市场动量驱动,而这把IBM排除在外。它绝对不是一只动量股。
Okay, let's see what happens. I am not optimistic. It appears that investors are more driven by market momentum, and this takes IBM out of the equation. It is definitely not a momentum stock.
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这个频道对 $IBM 的历次判断
Schwab Network 在这只股票上共 2 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。