$INTC · Jose Najarro Stocks · 2026-10-31
他对 INTC 长期看好,若明年指引转向乐观,会将其与 Qualcomm 并列排在第二或第三位;近期他认为没有理由给予估值溢价,因为第四季度指引大幅不及预期,客户端计算下滑超过 20%,其影响超过数据中心增长,而产能扩张要到 2027 年才到位。
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英特尔最近公布了财报,不幸的是,其第四季度指引远低于预期,导致股价在次日下跌了约30%。我们不断听到有关中央处理器短缺的说法,然而英特尔给出的指引却远低于预期。
Intel recently announced its earnings, and unfortunately, its fourth-quarter guidance came in much lower than expected, causing the stock to drop by about 30% the following day.
We continue to hear stories about shortages of central processing units, yet Intel has provided guidance that falls far short of expectations.
第三季度,从同比来看,他们在数据中心领域实现了巨大的增长。数据中心市场同比增长了78%。不幸的是,我们在客户端计算领域看到了疲软。客户端计算板块实际上同比下降了5%。
For the third quarter, on a year-over-year basis, they saw tremendous growth in the field of data centers. The data center market grew by 78% year-on-year. Unfortunately, we are seeing weaknesses in the area of customer computing.
The customer computing sector actually declined by 5% year-on-year.
比如英特尔,第三季度数据中心收入为73亿美元。客户端收入达到81亿美元。总收入达到165亿美元。所以,其他领域大约有10亿美元,对吧?其他方面大约10亿美元。但基本上,客户端板块占我们收入的略高于50%。数据中心板块约占40%。
For example, for Intel, third-quarter data center revenue was $7.3 billion. Customer revenues reached 8.1 billion. Total revenue reached $16.5 billion. So, about a billion dollars in other areas, right?
In other respects, about one billion dollars. But essentially, the customer segment accounts for slightly more than 50% of our revenue. The data center sector accounts for approximately 40%.
因此,这一点极其重要,因为如果其中一块出现放缓,就可能真正影响整体业务,尤其是在客户端板块。而这正是眼下正在发生的情况。
Therefore, this is extremely important because if you see a slowdown in one of them, it could really affect the overall business, especially in the customer segment. And that's exactly what's happening here.
在刚刚过去的这个季度,我们看到数据中心那些强劲的数字,但当公司给出指引时,预期在150亿至160亿美元之间。那将是连续下滑。分析师的预期也趋向于168亿美元。他们在第四季度指引上惨败。
For this last quarter, we saw those strong numbers in the data centers, but when the company provided its guidance, expectations were between $15 billion and $16 billion. That would be a consecutive decline.
Analysts' expectations were also trending towards $16.8 billion. They have failed spectacularly in their fourth-quarter guidance.
市场又一次在问:“嘿,如果服务器CPU短缺,为什么你们没有看到持续的改善?而且最重要的是,你们怎么会达不到预期?”
And once again, the market is asking: "Hey, if there's a shortage of server CPUs, why aren't you seeing successive improvements?" And most importantly, how do you fail to meet expectations?"
这只股票遭到了严厉惩罚。我们还看到每股收益和毛利率出现下滑。无论如何,问题是:“服务器CPU领域正在发生一些可疑的事情。”“让我全部卖掉。我宁愿先行动,之后再问问题。”
The stock has been severely punished. We've also seen a decline in earnings per share and gross profit margins. Regardless, the question is: "Something suspicious is happening in the server CPU space."
"Let me sell everything. I'd rather act now and ask questions later.
英特尔,当我们看服务器领域时,仍预计第四季度会增长。预计第四季度数据中心将环比增长接近两位数。对,这很巨大。考虑到73亿美元的基数,这很巨大。这会让这部分业务远超80亿美元。
Intel, when we look at the server space, is still expecting growth for the fourth quarter. The fourth quarter is expected to grow by close to double digits consecutively in data centers.
Right, that's huge. That's huge considering the $7.3 billion base. That puts that part of the business well over $8 billion.
现在,不利的一面是客户端板块面临非常强劲的逆风。幸运的是,我们一直在这个频道上谈论这一点,即内存价格将在客户端板块造成强劲逆风。我们去年12月谈过这件事。而现在我们终于看到它成为现实。
Now, the downside is that there are very strong headwinds in the consumer segment. Fortunately, we've been talking about this on this channel, that memory prices are going to create strong headwinds in the consumer segment.
We talked about this last December. And we're finally seeing that unfold now.
但如果你预期一个占你业务超过或接近50%的板块下滑超过20%,那你肯定会遭受重大打击并达不到预期,尤其是当市场并没有把这种下滑计入价格时。
But if you're expecting a decline of more than 20% in a business that represents more than or close to 50% of your business, then you're definitely going to take a big hit and miss expectations, especially when the market wasn't pricing in that kind of decline.
所以,在第三季度约80亿美元的基数上下滑20%,意味着至少损失……16亿美元。所以,你的数据中心预计会增长良好,但由于客户端计算活动,你会在收入上看到更大的影响。而客户端计算市场远超服务器市场。
So, a 20% decline in the third-quarter base of around $8 billion means a loss of at least..." $1.6 billion. So, your data center is expected to grow well, but you'll see a bigger impact on revenue due to customer computing activity.
And that customer computing market far surpasses the server market.
英特尔面临的一些问题是什么,为什么他们无法满足市场需求?主要问题之一是他们的芯片产量仍无法覆盖当前需求。这有两个原因。虽然他们在改进技术,但仍有很大的改进空间,对吧?另外,他们没有足够的供应线,因为从历史上看他们不得不拆解。
他们的供应链是针对特定产品的,然后是消费产品,等等,对吧?所以,他们的供应链不只是为服务器处理器,而是聚焦于市场其他部分。因此,如果他们需要转移一条原本聚焦消费板块的供应链,那是需要时间的。
What are some of the problems Intel is facing, and why can't they meet market demand? One of the main issues is that their chip production still doesn't cover current demand. This is due to two reasons.
While they are making improvements to their technology, there's still a lot of room for improvement, right? Also, they don't have sufficient supply lines because historically they've had to dismantle.
Their supply chains are for specific products, then for consumer products, and so on, right? So, their supply chain isn't just for server processors; it's focused on the rest of the market.
Therefore, if they need to shift a supply chain that was focused on the consumer sector, it takes time.
另一个问题是实际材料,比如许多这类服务器处理器所需先进封装中使用的基板,这些材料严重短缺。最后,他们有Fab 28,这是位于以色列的一家工厂,经历了中断。这一中断对较旧技术服务器处理器的供应造成了短期影响。
Another issue is the actual materials, like the substrates used in the advanced packaging required for many of these server processors, which are in huge shortage. Finally, they have Fab 28, a facility in Israel that experienced a disruption.
This disruption is causing a short-term impact on the supply of older-technology server processors.
有人可能会问:“José,那是旧技术。”“这为什么重要?”“因为,鉴于当前的短缺,你可以卖掉采用旧技术的服务器处理器,市场会把它们全部买下。”
Some might ask, "José, that's old technology." Why does this matter? "Because, given the current shortage, you can sell server processors with older technologies, and the market will buy them all.
不幸的是,对这家工厂Fab 28来说,正如我提到的,其几乎所有产量都是10nm,但这影响公司收入约3亿美元。它还影响毛利率约两个百分点。而这仅仅发生在第四季度。他们甚至认为第一季度的初步影响会类似。
Unfortunately, for this factory, Fab 28, almost all of its production is 10nm, as I mentioned, but it's impacting the company's revenue by about $300 million. It's also affecting gross profit margins by about two percentage points.
And this is happening in the fourth quarter alone. They even believe the initial impact in the first quarter will be similar.
现在,市场也在惩罚英特尔。就像是,‘嘿,这些只是初步估计。’”“情况还能比这更糟吗?”“如果情况变得更糟会怎样?如果它持续到第一季度之后会怎样?如果它延续到第二季度会怎样?我们会继续看到这种压力吗?”
Now, the market is also punishing Intel. It's like, 'Hey, these are just preliminary estimates.'" Could the situation get any worse than this? "And what will happen if the situation gets worse?
What will happen if it continues beyond the first quarter? What will happen if it extends into the second quarter? Will we continue to see this pressure?"
还有另一种说法:“嘿,英特尔,你本应是一家制造公司。你为什么没有为此做好准备?”“你为什么没准备好?一切都在你的掌控之中,不是吗?你拥有芯片设计,也拥有制造工艺。到底怎么回事?”
Another thing is being said: "Hey, Intel, you're supposed to be a manufacturing company. Why aren't you prepared for this?" Why aren't you ready? Everything is under your control, isn't it?
You own the chip design, and you own the manufacturing process. What's going on?"
我想说,自己管理供应链的优点和缺点之一就是:如果你做对了,材料、设备都齐备,一切都顺你的意,你就能完全掌控自己的产品。英特尔的服务器处理器,从 Intel 7 到 Intel 3,再到目前正在开发的 Intel 8,比如 Sapphire、Emerald Rapids、Granite Rapids、Sierra Forest 和 Clearwater Forest,全都依赖英特尔的制造技术。
所以,如果英特尔在分配一切方面做得好、供应链也对路,那对他们其实非常有利。缺点在于,如果你没做好,因为你关注了太多事情或你无法控制、又会伤害你的变量,你就会遭受重创,对吧?你没有另一个合作伙伴专门负责制造这一块。
I would say that one of the strengths and weaknesses of managing your own supply chain is that if you do things right, have all the materials and equipment, and everything is going your way, you have complete control over your product.
Intel's server processors, from the Intel 7 to the Intel 3 and the Intel 8 currently in development, such as Sapphire, Emerald Rapids, Granite Rapids, Sierra Forest, and Clearwater Forest, all rely on Intel's manufacturing technologies.
So, if Intel is doing a good job of distributing everything and has the right supply chains, that's actually very good for them. The downside is that if you're not doing your job well because you're focusing on too many things or variables that you can't control and that hurt you, you're going to take a beating, right?
You don't have another partner to focus solely on the manufacturing side.
打造面向未来的能力需要时间。正如我提到的,他们正在做的事情之一,是每个季度提升整体生产率。他们也在改造一些工厂。在俄勒冈州,他们正在改造一座工厂。英特尔的 3 技术支持更多服务器处理器。
遗憾的是,他们并不真的预期产量要到 2027 年下半年才会真正扩大。
Building future-proof capabilities takes time. One of the things they're doing, as I mentioned, is improving their overall production rates on a quarterly basis. They're also converting some factories.
In Oregon, they're converting a factory." Intel's 3 technology supports more server processors. Unfortunately, they don't really expect production to actually scale up until the second half of 2027.
Diamond Rapids 将基于英特尔的 18A 技术,目前处于采样阶段,但其量产扩产计划同样要到 2027 年才真正规划。
Diamond Rapids, which will be based on Intel's 18A technology, is currently in the sampling phase, but its production expansion plan isn't really planned until 2027 either.
整体生产率的提升需要逐季改善,并不是每个季度都有巨大跃升。所以,市场在说:“你们有供应问题。”你是唯一能控制自己供应链的人。然而,它告诉我们的很多信息是,扩产实际上要到 2027 年才会发生,有些甚至要到 2027 年下半年。
那么,在服务器处理器方面,我们凭什么要给你溢价?
Overall improvements in production rates require quarterly improvements. It's not like a huge jump every quarter. So, the market is saying, "You're having supply problems." You are the only one who can control your supply chain.
However, much of what it tells us is that the production expansion will actually take place in 2027, some of it even in the second half of 2027. So why should we give you a price premium when it comes to the server processor side?
另外,在财报电话会上,他们表示明年的市场份额仅仅取决于供应。谁能供应最多数量的服务器处理器,谁就能受益。
Also, during the earnings call, they stated that market share next year will be merely a function of supply. Whoever can supply the largest number of server processors will benefit.
所以,这些利润可能并不夸张,而尽管英特尔的利润另一方面很夸张,未来的指引可能也很夸张。明年的指引可能会改善,对吧?只要你给我那些乐观的感觉,这就是我作为长期投资者所寻找的。
So, these profits might not be crazy, and although Intel's profits were crazy on the other hand, the future guidance might be crazy. The guidelines for next year might improve, right ?
As long as you give me those optimistic feelings , that's what I'm looking for as a long-term investor.
如果我必须把英特尔加入这个名单,我认为第二和第三名会是英特尔或 Qualcomm。我会在它们之间切换。下一个考验将是英特尔 11 月 3 日的财报。
If I had to add Intel to this list, I think the second and third places would be either Intel or Qualcomm. I will switch between them. The next test will be Intel's earnings, on November 3.
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这个频道对 $INTC 的历次判断
Jose Najarro Stocks 在这只股票上共 2 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。