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$META · Value Investing with Sven Carlin, Ph.D. · 2026-11-07

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META 只有在强劲增长下才便宜且风险回报为正:在约 20% 的增长预期下它被显著低估,十年内可能每年回报 16%,但按保守的 8% 增长,内在价值远低于当前价格。AI 资本开支带来的负现金流、约 7000 亿 AI 负债对比资产负债表上的 830 亿、1000 亿稀释以及 AI 代理对广告的颠覆,使其成为极高风险的赌博。

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Meta Platforms,我们过去一段时间讨论过它。这只股票现在略有下跌,但已经稳定了一段时间。也许最重要的是,它在持续累积增长。它有起有落,也有因为 Mark Zuckerberg 花钱而引发的危机。

但它在继续增长,收入增长强劲。然而,营业利润率从43-48%下降到本季度的20%。嗯,我们得调整净利润,因为与州总检察长达成和解产生了近100亿美元的成本,但同样,我们还有一些第一季度税收优惠需要调整。

我把这些都汇总了。我们达到了770亿净利润,这是个巨大的数字。按每股算,把所有项目调整后,得到每股29.77。

Meta Platforms, we have discussed it over time. The stock has now dropped slightly, but it has been stable for a while. Perhaps the most important thing is that it continues to grow cumulatively.

It has its ups and downs, and crises due to Mark Zuckerberg's spending of money. But it continues to grow, and revenues are growing strongly. However, the operating margin is decreasing from 43-48 % to 20% in the current quarter.

Well, we have to adjust net income because of a nearly $10 billion cost to a settlement with the state attorney general, but again, we have some first-quarter tax benefits that we have to adjust.

I have summarized all of this. We reached 77 billion in net income, which is a huge number. For each share, when everything is adjusted, you get 29.77 per share.

然后,如果我们转到核心价值,我用黄色标出了我们更新过的那些。你可以从下方描述里的链接免费下载。还有免费课程,包含所有讲解,但新的还有这本书,内在价值、所有概念等等。我相信我在这本书里试图从头到尾、从A到Z涵盖价值投资相关的一切。

这是一本相当大的书,好好享受吧。这里我们有每股收益,采用非常保守的8%增长率,预期折现率10%,市盈率20。这仍与当前股价相差很远,但就 Facebook 而言,它波动很大。他可能明天就到了。

不过,如果我们考虑市场对增长率的预期,Bill Ackman 预测20%的增长,那么是的,Facebook 被显著低估,在那个水平上,未来十年很可能实现16%的年回报,这太疯狂了。

但这就是一只股票便宜的含义。所以你在危机情形下有巨大的上行潜力。我真的不知道在非常困难的情况下要发生什么,这只股票才会下跌。也许我应该把这里的概率改一下,让它不是45,是的,把10放在这里。

所以当你把股价与投资对比时,它是一只便宜的股票,在风险与回报方面是正面的情形。

Then, if we move on to our core value, I have put in yellow those that we have updated. You can download this for free from the link in the description below . There is also the free course which includes all the explanations, but what is new is the book as well , the intrinsic value, all the concepts, and everything.

I believe I have tried to cover everything related to value investing in this book from A to Z, from beginning to end. It's a rather large book, so enjoy it. Here we have earnings per share with very conservative growth rates of 8%, with an expected discount rate of 10 %, and a price-to-earnings ratio of 20.

This is still far from the current share price, but with Facebook, it's volatile. He could arrive there tomorrow. However, if we take into account market expectations for the growth rate, with Bill Ackman predicting 20% growth, then yes, Facebook is significantly undervalued, and at those levels it is likely to achieve an annual return of 16% for the next ten years, which is insane.

But that's what it means for a stock to be cheap. So you have great upside potential in a crisis situation. I really don't know what would have to happen in a very difficult situation for the stock to go down.

Perhaps I should change the odds here so that it is not 45, yes, and put 10 here. So when you compare the stock price against the investment, it is a cheap stock and a positive situation in terms of risk and reward.

至于广告展示次数,它们把它们堆起来,但它们有能力这样做。所以有收入增长,广告价格也在上涨,涨幅达到两位数,这非常好。但危险就在这里。资本支出正在爆炸式增长,因为 Mark 想在未来主导人工智能。

他总是想和大玩家一起玩。他做得非常好。我不知道他为什么觉得自己被抛弃了,但好吧。他花掉大量现金流,而且在此基础上还变成了负现金流。这就是为什么它的定价这么便宜。你看内在价值然后说:“多划算啊!”

然而,有7000亿美元的 AI 负债,而资产负债表上只有830亿,3500亿美元的租赁,以及3500亿美元的购买义务。这就是 Meta 的未来。是的,华尔街极度乐观。他们在看现金流。

得益于人工智能,Meta 到2030年将翻一倍以上。但我们得先熬过这里两年的负现金流。

As for ad impressions, they pile them up, but they are able to do so. So there is revenue growth, and the price of advertising is also rising, by double digits, which is very good.

But that's the danger. Capital expenditures are exploding because Mark wants to dominate artificial intelligence in the future. He always wants to play with the big boys. He is doing very well.

I don't know why he feels so abandoned, but okay. He spends a lot of cash flow, and it turns into negative cash flow on top of that . That's why it's priced so cheaply . You look at the intrinsic value and say, "What a deal!"

However, there are $700 billion in AI liabilities, while only $83 billion is on the balance sheet, $350 billion in leases, and $350 billion in purchase liabilities. This is the future of Meta.

Yes, Wall Street is extremely optimistic. They are looking at the cash flows. Meta will more than double by 2030 thanks to artificial intelligence. But we need to get past the two years of negative cash flows here .

这来自最近一篇《金融时报》的文章,文章开头讨论了在泡沫后期,神奇思维如何盛行。这是泡沫的最后阶段吗?Meta 的五年期信用违约互换略有上升。嗯,那里没什么疯狂的,但它们在发债、融资,伴随着1000亿美元的股票稀释。

当你看看它们过去五年,或者更好是过去十年所做的总回购,达到2000亿美元,现在它们要把这些全部稀释掉。是的,有时是在更低的价格,但那没关系。风险与回报将完全取决于这一点。如果它们实现了增长率,如果现金流从更高的收入或其他来源流入,到2030年达到1000亿美元自由现金流,对 Meta 来说可能不是什么好消息。不过,调整之后市盈率将是15。

This is from a recent Financial Times article, and the article begins by discussing how magical thinking flourishes in the later stages of the bubble. Is this a bubble in its final stages?

Meta's five-year credit default swap rises slightly. Well, nothing crazy there, but they are issuing bonds, raising capital, with a $100 billion dilution of stocks. When you look at the total buybacks they've done over the past five years, or better yet the past decade, at $200 billion, they're now going to dilute them all.

Yes, sometimes at lower prices , but that's okay. The risk and reward will depend entirely on this. If they achieve the growth rates, and if cash flows in from higher revenues or other sources, reaching $100 billion in free cash flow by 2030 may not be great news for Meta.

However, the price-to-earnings ratio will be 15 after adjusting things.

然后,在讨论过程中,我让 Gemini 告诉我,五年后,我是否能够不进入 Facebook,而是拥有一个智能体,从所有这些应用中提取我想要的内容。因此,广告世界作为一种商业模式可能会崩溃。

答案是这项技术已经存在,这意味着广告拦截的终结,但 Facebook、Instagram 和 TikTok 拥有严格的封闭系统,它们会尽一切努力阻止这种情况发生。但归根结底,东西归你所有,所以你不能被强迫做太多事情。

这是另一个可能反噬 Facebook 的风险,或者也许这正是 Mark 在人工智能上投入如此之多的原因,因为他明白人工智能会对他传统业务造成什么影响。从公司到智能体的公告将看到 Mark 正在大力推动“Muse”,这非常有趣,但它增加了局势的风险和回报。

这让它变成了一场赌博,因此,是的,正如我们在内在价值中讨论的那样,回报高于 10%,但风险极高。

And then, during the discussion, I asked Gemini here to tell me if, in five years, instead of going into Facebook, I would be able to have an agent to extract what I wanted from all these applications.

Therefore, the advertising world may collapse as a business model. The answer was that the technology already exists, and that this means the death of ad suppression, but Facebook, Instagram and TikTok have strict closed systems and they do everything to prevent that from happening.

But ultimately, you own the thing , so you can't be forced to do too many things. This is another risk that could backfire on Facebook , or perhaps this is why Mark is investing so much in artificial intelligence because he understands what it can do to his traditional business .

The announcement from companies to agents will see that Mark is pushing hard for "Muse," which is very interesting, but it increases the risks and rewards of the situation. It makes it a gamble, and therefore, yes, the returns are higher than 10% as we discussed in intrinsic value, but it is extremely risky.

是的,Meta 将拥有 1000 亿美元,Amazon 将拥有 2000 亿美元的现金流,但这能否奏效仍是个问号。

Yes, Meta will have $ 100 billion, and Amazon will have $200 billion in cash flow, but there is a question mark over whether this will work.

观察点

META 能否扭转连续两年的负现金流,到 2030 年实现 1000 亿美元自由现金流
自由现金流转正,并在 2030 年前接近 1000 亿美元
未来两年至 2030 年季度财报/现金流量表
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