$MRVL · Jose Najarro Stocks · 2026-11-03
说话者对 Marvell 因 Lumentum 交易而获得的整合方案非常乐观,认为若收购成行可能是一大胜利,因为 Marvell 可获得更多客户。他不认为两家公司出价过高,并认为两者都处于有吸引力的水平,同时指出监管批准并无保证。
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如果你是 Marvell 或 Lumintum 的投资者,今天你大概率在想:芯片行业到底发生了什么?Marvell 最近宣布以溢价收购 Lumintum,然而两家公司的股价却都下跌了。
If you are an investor in Marvell or Lumintum today, you are probably wondering : What is happening in the world of chips? Marvell recently announced its acquisition of Lumintum by paying a premium, yet the stock of both companies has declined.
今天我们得到了最终确认,Marvel 正在收购 Lumintum。这仍需获得批准,不是吗?所以,这并非板上钉钉。我认为鉴于光学市场是一个供应受限的领域,这里会有一些反对意见。我想知道监管机构是否会给这笔交易设置障碍。
Today we received final confirmation that Marvel is acquiring Lumintum. It's still subject to approvals, isn't it? So, this is not guaranteed. I think there will be some opposition here given that the optics market is a supply-limited field.
I wonder if the regulators will put obstacles in the way of this deal.
根据10月28日的数据,该交易估值约为1150亿美元。当交易完全以股票进行时,固定换股比例会产生可变的美元价值。如果 Marvel 的股价大幅上涨,你为 Lumentum 支付的价格也会大幅上涨。
这就是为什么重要的是要认识到,仅仅因为这笔交易在10月28日价值1150亿美元,它现在的价值并不相同。
Based on data from October 28, the deal was valued at approximately $115 billion . When the transaction is entirely in stocks , a fixed exchange ratio creates a variable dollar value.
If Marvel's stock rises significantly, the amount you will pay for Lumentum will also rise significantly . This is why it is important to realize that just because the deal was worth $115 billion on October 28, it is not worth the same amount now.
但如果我们看11月2日今天的市场走势,会发现“Marvel”的价格是171美元。“Lite”的价格是684美元。用4.5乘以“Marvel”的价格,得到771美元。这仅代表约12.7%的溢价。
不是吗?因此,波动性和价格溢价会随时间发生显著变化。
But if we look at today’s market movements on November 2, we find that the price of “Marvel” is at $171. The price of "Lite" is $684. If you multiply 4.5 by the price of "Marvel", you get $771.
This represents only a premium of approximately 12.7%. Isn't that so? Therefore, volatility and price premium will change significantly over time.
那么,这家合并后的公司会是什么样子?战略论点围绕共同设计人工智能网络的电气和光学组件展开。我们在Marvell最近的投资者日上已经看到了这一点。他们提到,他们面前最大的机会之一在光学市场。
现在,Marvell提供定制芯片、网络适配器和数字光信号处理器(DSP)。
Now, what will this merged company look like? The strategic argument revolves around designing the electrical and optical components of the artificial intelligence network together.
We already saw that at Marvell's recent investor day. They mentioned that one of the biggest opportunities they see before them is in the optics market. Now, Marvell offers custom chips, network adapters, and digital optical signal processors (DSPs).
现在,我想说,对此的第一个反驳论点是,你做的是一笔全股票交易。所以,理论上,如果市场很快结束,Marvell的股票也会变得价值低得多。所以,你并没有从中获益多少,不是吗?奖金并没有那么大。所以,这似乎不是原因。
Now, I would say that the first counter-argument to that is that you are making a full-fledged stock deal . So, theoretically, if the market were to end soon, Marvell shares would also become much less valuable.
So, it's not like you're benefiting much from this, is it? The bonus wasn't that huge. So , that doesn't seem to be the reason.
现在,Matt Murphy反对这个想法;对于那些不了解的人,Matt Murphy是Marvel的CEO。问题是:你这样做仅仅是因为供应市场紧张吗?他围绕长期架构变化来构建他的回答。
垂直视觉扩展的需求已经开始出现,内部扩展随后代表另一个机会。
Now, Matt Murphy has opposed this idea ; For those who are unaware, Matt Murphy is the CEO of Marvel. The question was: Are you doing this only because of a tight supply market?
He framed his answer around a long-term architectural change. The demand for vertical visual expansion was already beginning to emerge, with internal expansion representing another opportunity thereafter.
至于Marvell,随着这一公告的发布,它也不得不分享其第三季度初步业绩的任何更新。没有变化,对吧?我认为唯一的是Marvel的范围变得更精确了。之前是31.5亿美元,上下浮动5%。
现在是31.5亿美元,上下浮动2%。很明显我们已经到了季度末,所以他们对很多数字了解得更准确。他们说:“看,我们的区间变得更精确了,这意味着下一季度的上行潜力不大。”
As for Marvell, with the release of this announcement, it also had to share any updates to its preliminary third-quarter results. There are no changes, is there? I think the only thing is that Marvel's scope has become more accurate.
Previously it was $3.15 billion, plus or minus 5%. Now it is $3.15 billion, plus or minus 2%. It's clear we're already at the end of the quarter, so they know a lot of the numbers more accurately.
They say, "Look, we've become more precise in our range, which means the upside potential isn't great for the next quarter."
因此,Marvell宣布了在近光束光学(NPO)和共光束光学(CPO)领域的第二笔重大交易,客户购买承诺超过50亿美元。Marvell还表示,光路交换机(OCS)的愿景已经扩大,描述了未来数十亿美元的年收入机会。
OCS的长期前景仍然只是前景,但总体而言,光学市场看不到尽头。
Therefore, Marvell announced a second major deal in the field of near-beam optics (NPO) and co-beam optics (CPO), with customer purchase commitments exceeding $5 billion. Marvell also said that the vision for optical circuit switches (OCS) has expanded, describing a future annual revenue opportunity in the billions of dollars.
OCS’s long-term prospects remain just that—prospects—but overall , there is no end in sight for the optics market.
现在,联合电话会议还触及了这笔收购或合并的某种财务概况。因此,他们共同将实际第一季度业绩和第三季度指引结合起来,表示合并后的收入约为177亿美元,调整后营业利润率约为39%。最重要的是,他们认为这家公司目前可以立即实现每年近10亿美元的目标协同效应。
主要原因主要是销售成本,因为他们在购买一些视觉解决方案时不会支付中间商的税。
Now, the joint call also touched on some kind of financial profile for this acquisition or merger. So together they combined the actual first-quarter results and the third-quarter guidance to represent that they would have combined revenues of approximately $17.7 billion and adjusted operating margins of approximately 39%.
Most importantly, they believe this company can currently deliver nearly $1 billion annually in targeted synergies immediately. The main reason is primarily due to the cost of the goods sold, as they will not pay the middleman's tax when purchasing some of these visual solutions.
今天市场上发生了很多事情,不是吗?我们不能把一切都归因于这笔收购。我们继续收到人工智能领域销售扩大的报告。我们对人工智能市场中流动性和债务的支出有很多担忧。我们继续看到市场中的债券收益率继续显示下行。
而且还有选举在进行,不是吗?所以,有很多不同的原因可能导致一些抛售发生。然而,尽管如此,既然Marvel和Lumintum的股票已经挂钩,Marvel股价的下跌会对Lumintum造成负面压力。
因此,固定汇率比率在股价和当前价值之间创造了明确的机械联系。
A lot of things happened in the market today, didn't they? We cannot attribute everything to this acquisition. We continue to receive reports of wider sales in the field of artificial intelligence.
We have many concerns about the spending of liquidity and debt in the artificial intelligence market. We continue to see bond yields in the market continuing to show the downside.
And there are elections taking place, aren't there? So, there are many different reasons that may cause some sales to occur. However, regardless of that , now that Marvel and Lumintum stocks are linked, a drop in Marvel's stock price creates negative pressure on Lumintum .
Therefore, a fixed exchange ratio creates a clear mechanical link between the stock price and the current value.
在电话会议中,一位分析师问Marvell是否在短期估值接近峰值时买入,我认为这是另一个担忧,不是吗?两家公司是否支付过高,市值是否太高?我认为现在不是这样。在我看来,两家公司都处于有吸引力的水平,但这是影响市场的担忧之一。
During the call, one of the analysts asked whether Marvell was buying near the peak of its short- term valuation, and I think that's another concern, isn't it? Are both companies overpaying and are their market values too high?
I don't think that's the case now. In my opinion, both companies are at attractive levels, but it's one of the concerns affecting the market.
那么,我们能预期看到什么?对于Marvel股东来说,一个小问题是,在新股进入分母后,每股将实现什么,对吧?公司表示,随着“Lumentum”的加入,你会看到每股收益的增加。
So, what can we expect to see? For Marvel shareholders, the small question is what each share will achieve after the new shares are entered into the denominator, right? The company stated that you will see an increase in earnings per share with the addition of "Lumentum".
我对他们提供的集成解决方案非常乐观,不是吗?Marvell的集成解决方案。我认为如果这发生,对Marvel来说可能是一个巨大的胜利,因为他们可以因此获得越来越多的客户。
I'm very optimistic about the integrated solution they offer, aren't I? Marvell's integrated solution. I think this could be a huge win for Marvel if it happens, because they could gain more and more customers because of it.
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