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微软 FY27 开局强劲:云收入突破 630 亿美元,增长 30%,Azure 12 月按固定汇率计算的增长指引为 49% 至 50%;管理层将接近 50% 的利润率归功于收入增长与效率提升,预计长期增长可持续,并对资本开支回报有信心,同时自由现金流为正。
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Microsoft 云业务收入突破630亿美元,同比增速加快至30%。
Microsoft cloud revenue surpassed $63 billion with growth accelerating to 30% year-over-year.
总而言之,我们进入 FY27 开局强劲,Microsoft 云各项业务增长都在加速。产品改进,加上我们数据中心基础设施以及第一方应用和智能体方面的效率提升,正在提高价值,并改善我们为客户交付的成果。
In closing, we are off to a strong start to FY27 with accelerated growth across the Microsoft cloud. Product improvements along with efficiency gains across our data center infrastructure and our firstparty apps and agents are increasing the value and improving the outcomes we deliver to our customers.
把这些价值交付给客户,为我们实现持久的长期增长奠定了基础。
Delivering that value to our customers positions us for durable long-term growth.
我想问一下,随着新增 AI 算力陆续上线,你认为未来几年更重要的回报驱动因素会是什么?是提高 Azure 内部的利用率和单位成本,还是提升你在 fabric、foundry 和 copilot 等各层面对每个工作负载变现的能力?
Can I ask um as incremental AI capacity comes online, what do you see as likely to be the more important driver of returns over the next few years? Improving utilization and unit costs within Azure or your ability to monetize more layers of each workload across fabric foundry and copilot.
我想请你展开讲讲,我认为这是本次电话会议的关键指标之一,也就是12月 Azure 按固定汇率增长49%到50%的指引。
I'm wondering if you could unpack what I thought was uh one of the key metrics from this call and that is the guidance for Azure growth of 49 to 50% constant currency in December.
我能想象这里面有不少变量。你们正在投入的算力、分配给第三方客户的额度,可能还有 OpenAI 的强劲表现,但鉴于这个数字在我看来至少相当不错,也许你可以稍微谈谈其中一些关键驱动因素是什么。
I can imagine there's a number of variables. The capacity you're putting out, the allocation to uh third party customers, probably open AI strength, but perhaps you could comment a little bit on what some of the key drivers are given how good that number seems at least to me.
在 Q1,我想说工程团队确实交付了非常非常出色的工作,在提升平台层效率方面。这不只是关于 GPU 效率的说法,而是关于每一层效率的说法:应用如何利用平台,Foundry 如何利用平台,以及 Azure 平台本身。
in Q1 uh I would say the engineering teams have really delivered uh very very good work uh in terms of improving efficiency at the platform layer. That is not just a statement around the efficiency um of of GPUs.
It's a statement around the efficiency of every layer. how the app utilizes the platform and how Foundry utilizes the platform as well as the Azure platform itself.
这些效率提升,是一周一周慢慢磨出来的,你会有好点子,很多奏效,有些则不奏效,你就坚持下去,所以它们在 Q1 能带来多大影响也许没那么可预测。他们做得非常好,你也看到了其中一些成果,让我们本季度能够把更多算力分配给 foundry。
um those efficiencies um you know they're sort of ground out every week and you have good ideas a lot work some don't and you stay at it so they're not maybe as predictable in terms of how much impact will get in quarter Q1 they did a very good job and you saw some of that result in us being able uh to put more allocation into foundry in the quarter
其次,你也提到了,token 定价会带来一些波动。本季度我们的 token 定价高于预期。高质量模型让我们能够加以利用,并从中获得不错的利润率,这确实在本季度对我们有利。这在 Q1 确实发生了。
Secondly, uh and you mentioned it, uh token pricing will create a little bit of variability. We had higher token pricing than we expected in the quarter. Um listen, high quality models that we're able to take advantage of um and see good margins on do benefit us in the quarter. Uh that did happen in Q1.
所以,在 Q2,我们已经有这些效率提升的成果,这很好,而且它们会延续到 Q2。我们还需要再找到一些,我们正指望这些来达到我给出的指引,因为我相信团队在 Q1 的工作会延续到 Q2,但我们也需要这些工作稍微帮我们一把,因为我们原本指望在 Q2 到位的一些供应推迟到了下半年。
So, in Q2, uh, we've got those efficiency grains, which is great, and those will continue into Q2. um we need to find some more uh which we're counting on uh enable to get to that um guidance that I gave because I have faith in the team's work in Q1 uh continuing into Q2 but we also need that work uh to be able to help us a little bit because we had some supply we were counting on Q2 move out into H2
我想了解一下 Azure 中 AI 强劲增长的驱动因素,是来自企业客户,还是总体上来自数字原生公司,或者 AI 原生公司,随着推理开始放量,以及 Microsoft 成为企业客户的首选。
I'd like to get a sense on the drivers of the AI strength in Azure being from enterprise versus digitally native in general um or AI native um with inferencing starting to RAM and Microsoft the go-to for enterprises
Amy,目前企业客户工作负载在整体工作负载中的占比,我们应该怎么看待?Satia,鉴于 Azure AI 平台产品的强劲增长,你能给我们讲讲是什么在推动它吗?
how should we think Amy about the mix of enterprise customer workloads within overall workloads at this point and Satia with the strong growth of the Azure AI platform offering Can you give us color on what's driving that?
它的广度、质量、它们的能力,顺便说一下还有它的多模型特性,对吧?它们一开始用的是前沿模型,其中很多,事实上 uni liver 那家,他们刚发布了一个用我们的 traces 训练的 MAI 模型。
所以,就连我所说的模型优化、工作负载优化、token 优化的精细程度,都非常令人欣喜。
the breadth the quality their ability oh by the way the multimodel nature of it right they look they start with a frontier model many of them uh in fact the uni liver one they just dropped an MAI model trained using our traces.
So even the degree of sophistication of what I think of as model optimization, workload optimization, token optimization uh was just great to see.
所以这种广度终于开始显现,在我看来,它确实像企业工作负载,就像数据库业务,就像我成长过程中企业构建的那些应用,现在在 AI 领域正在发生。
So the breath is starting finally does feel like the enterprise workloads they feel like to me, you know, like the database business, you know, applications enterprises built in the past that I grew up with are happening now when it comes to AI.
事实上,甚至可以说,那些花哨的东西正在退潮,对吧?重点不再是下一个大热点。他们真正关心的是,我能不能构建一个系统?我能不能拥有权重?我能不能管理成本?我能不能保证可靠性?安全性怎么样?
And in fact, if anything, some of the the, you know, uh, the the shiny object stuff is waning, right? Which is it's not about the next big thing. They're really more about, wow, can I build a system?
Can I own the the weights? Can I manage my costs? Can I have reliability? What about security?
所以从这个意义上说,企业广度的势头正在启动。但和其他一切一样,企业业务不是按季度推进的,而是一个长达十年的事情,这正是我一直在等待的。
And so, in that sense, the enterprise breath motion is starting. But like everything else, the enterprise stuff is not like a quarter over quarter. It's a you know a decadel long thing and that's what I've been waiting for.
而不是像四个客户从你这里买走大量算力,你能展示几个季度的增长,在我看来那不算一门生意。所以我想要的是广度。我们在广度上处于有利位置。
Uh as opposed to like four customers who buy a lot of capacity from you and you can show a few quarters of growth and that's not a business as far as I'm concerned. So I want the breath. We are well positioned on the breath.
而且我们有想从我们这里采购的大客户,我们也愿意做这门生意。只要价格合适,我们可能会卖给他们一些。如果价格不合适,我们就会耐心地建设广度业务。
Uh and and we have you know large customers who want to buy from us and we're open for business with it. And um as long as the pricing is right, we may sell them some. Uh if not, uh we will be patient about building the breath business.
我想继续谈广度这个话题,因为你在准备好的发言中提到,MEI 现在可以在发布后3到6个月内与领先模型相媲美。与此同时,OpenAI 本季度占收入的11%。所以也许你可以退一步,谈谈你最新的想法:你认为 token 结构和 token 价值将如何在前沿 MAI 与一些更成熟的企业客户在专有 AI 战略上的做法之间演变。
I want to stay on this topic of breadth because you had a comment in the prepared remarks talking about how MEI can now be comparable to leading models within 3 to six months of their release.
At the same time, you have OpenAI at 11% of revenue in the quarter. So maybe just take a step back and give us your latest thinking on how you think token mix and token value is going to evolve between the frontier Mai and maybe what some of your more sophisticated enterprise customers are doing from a proprietary AI strategy standpoint.
上个季度,我们在 OpenAI 的一些模型上看到了这一点,那些模型非常出色,我们显然对 OpenAI 在 Astra 上取得的进展以及接下来要推出的东西感到非常兴奋,而且我认为我们看到了不错的需求。
We saw that with some of the OpenAI models uh in the last quarter they were fantastic models and we're obviously very thrilled about the progress OpenAI has made uh with Astra and also what's to come uh and I thought we saw some good demand on that.
然后人们接下来会做的是:我能不能同时接入多个前沿模型,因为这些模型的价格差别很大。事实上,今天早上 artificial analysis 有一个我认为是真正基准的评测,就是用我们的 fusion 的编程智能体,我想我们在那里排第二或第三,看到这个很棒,对吧,现在你可以获得前沿性能,速度快 45%、便宜 75%,谁会不想用呢,对吧?
Um then the next thing people do is hey can I actually put multiple of the frontier models um because these got these have very different prices. In fact, this morning artificial analysis had the you know what I think is the real benchmark which is um the coding agents uh using our fusion and I think we were number two or number three there uh which is awesome to see right which is uh you can now get frontier performance 45% faster 75% cheaper like why who would want to not take that right
也就是说,如果你是编程智能体的用户,你实际上会希望 Anthropic 和 OpenAI 为你的工作负载竞争,不是一季度一次,而是每一个任务都如此。对我来说,这就是这些路由器和自动 fusion 之类路由功能的价值所在,我们对此非常兴奋。
which is like if you're a coding agent user you want in fact anthropic and open AI by the way to compete eat for your workload, not like once a quarter, but for every task. Uh, and that to me is what the value of these routers and auto uh fusion uh stuff routing does and we're very excited about it.
最后一点也很重要。很多客户在说:“嘿,看,用 uni level one,对吧?那是他们的系统。他们最终甚至会拿走那些已经用前沿模型做了很多工作之后的 traces,他们只是想训练自己的模型。”
所以它可以是开放权重的,而在这个例子里是 MAI 模型。
And then the last thing is another important one. A lot of customers are saying, "Hey, look, take the uni level one, right? It's their system. they they will ultimately take even the traces after having done even a bunch with frontier models and they just want to train their own model.
Uh so it can be open weights or in this case it was MAI model."
然后根据定价、根据客户的需求,他们会去使用它,而且这里面有时间性。从来不是说我从一个地方开始就停在那里,对吧,而是我可能从前沿模型开始,我可能转向开放权重,我可能转向 MI 模型,下一次发布时我可能又回到前沿模型用几个月,就是这样,我认为这些工作负载就是如此动态。
Um and then depending on pricing depending on the need of the customer they will exercise it and there's a temporality to it. It's never like oh I start one place and that's where I stop right it's like I may start at the frontier I may go to an open weight I may go to an MI model I may go back to the frontier for the next drop for a few months come out like that's how I think that how dynamic these workloads are
这就是为什么当我们考虑 foundry、考虑 fabric、考虑 co-pilot 和 get a co-pilot 时,我们真正想构建的是一个持续为客户创造价值的模型系统,而不是让他们被困在某一个东西里。
and that's where when we think about foundry or when we think about fabric or when we think about co-pilot and get a co-pilot we really want to build a model system that delivers customers value continuously versus you know get you know them being stuck in any one thing.
很高兴看到,在你接近 50% 的同时,你还有另一个项目也接近 50%,那就是你的营业利润率。我想很多人会问,在收入端 50、利润端 50 的情况下,你怎么能维持这样的增长水平?
Good to see uh as you're approaching 50%, uh you have another line item approaching 50% and that's your operating margin. Uh I think many ask you know how can you sustain this level of growth with a 50 on the top and a 50 on the bottom?
也许你可以谈谈你持续推行的运营改进,以维持利润端的高水平。
maybe you can discuss the operational improvements you you continue to put forward to to maintain that that high level on the bottom line.
我先说,这里最好的解决方案是收入增长。所以我会说我倾向于从那里开始并聚焦于此,尽管我认为很多人似乎觉得我是从损益表的底部开始往上看的。正确的做法永远是先从损益表的顶部开始,再往下看。
Um let me first say uh the the best solution here is revenue growth. Um and so I would say I tend to start and focus there even though I think many people seem to think I start at the bottom of the P&L and work up.
Uh the right answer is you always start at the top of the P&L and work down.
所以我们一直专注的,而且我认为这几乎体现在所有评论中,就是我们改变业务分部,是因为我们在改变向客户交付产品和服务的方式。我们改变它,是因为我们在交付包含大量价值的新产品和不同产品。而这些产品比以往更加整合。
And so what we've been focused on, and I think really it's almost inherent in all of the commentary, is we change segments because we're changing how we deliver product and services to customers.
We're changing it because we're delivering new and different products with a lot a lot of value in them. And those products are far more integrated than they were before.
我认为当你看到收入在顶线加速时,它当然会以相当健康的方式贡献正的利润率和部分正利润额,我觉得我也需要人们关注这一点。
I think when you see that revenue accelerate um at the top line, of course it does in a pretty healthy way contribute to positive margin and part of positive margin dollars which I think I need people to also focus on.
第二点是,我们真正关注效率,因为当我们说效率这个词时,我认为人们会以为它和成本有关。结果确实和成本相关,但效率的真正好处是稳定性。是安全性。是可靠性。是它以尽可能低的成本交付最高质量的单位。所以这就是运营卓越。
Um the second piece is um there's real focus on efficiency because efficiency when we say the word I think people believe it's cost related. The outcome is cross related but the real benefit of efficiency is stability.
It's security. It's reliability. It's that it delivers the highest quality unit at the lowest possible cost. And so it's operational excellence.
所以我认为,当你想到你可以交付产品卓越,这正是我们真正专注的。我认为上个季度我们在产品质量上做得非常好,我觉得很多地方的团队都应该为此感到自豪。
And so I think when you think about you can deliver product excellence which is what we're really focused on. I think we did a very good job on product quality uh in the past quarter which I think uh teams should be proud of in lots of places.
然后你还有这种对改进的运营专注,接着在运营费用方面也有真正的关注,确保它流向构建新东西或提供安全与质量,我认为我们做出了一个非常积极的选择,就是真正聚焦于这两件事,尤其是在当前环境下,以及这有多么重要。
I think then you have this sort of operational focus on improvement and then it is a real focus um in terms of operating expense to make sure it's going toward building the new thing or providing security and quality and I think that's we've made a I think a very active choice to be really focused on those two things especially in this environment and how important it is
我认为当你做到这些,又恰好身处一个具有广度、客户具有广度、业务遍布全球的良好市场,我们就会看到不错的结果。尤其是这个季度,当你在一个季度里实现大量效率提升,并且能在不增加额外成本的情况下实现收入增长,你当然会看到好处,我们确实看到了。
但我对这个数字背后的东西感觉良好,我认为那是对正确杠杆的专注。
And I think when you do those things and you happen to be in a good market with breadth and breadth in customers and a global business, we've seen a good result. Um, this quarter in particular, you know, when you're delivering a lot of efficiency gains in a quarter, uh, and you can deliver revenue growth without spending additional cost, you of course see a benefit, which we did.
But I feel good about what's behind that number, which is, I think, a a focus on the right levers.
当你们把 GitHub 从按席位模式转变为消费模式时,它为你们释放了大量的收入增长。当你考虑现在已有的工具,为 M365 核心客户在消费侧解锁,你认为这种解锁会像那样快、不需要销售投入,还是需要相当多的努力才能让那些计量表转起来?
When you all shifted GitHub from a per se model to a uh a consumption model, it unlocked a ton of revenue growth for y'all. As you think about the tools in place now unlock on the consumption side for the core M365 customer, do you think the unlocks as fast and without sales effort or is it going to take a you know a fair amount of effort to get those meters spinning?
我认为在编程方面会更快,因为我认为人们已经习惯按这种按量付费的方式付费,这算是普遍的市场做法,而且如果有什么的话,希望我们今天甚至在 GitHub universe 上宣布的一些东西,比如 fusion,是更有吸引力的方式,对吧,因为即使你想想,你买一堆额度,你想最有效地使用这些额度。
这就是 GitHub copilot fusion 的承诺。所以我们非常乐观能在这方面取得进展。
I think on the on the coding side um it will be faster just because I think uh people are used to paying um on this pay go as the sort of the general market uh and how it works and if anything hopefully you know some of the things that we announced even at GitHub universe today with fusion uh are a more attractive way right because you even if you think about it right you buy a bunch of credits and you want to use those credits most efficiently.
That's the promise of GitHub uh copilot fusion. Um so we are very optimistic about making progress on that.
然后说到 co-pilot 本身,我们正努力确保在某种意义上,随着每一次模型发布,我们把越来越多的价值注入订阅中,本质上就是把前沿模型的收益整合起来用于广泛部署,而且在很多情况下,正如我所说的,它为这一切提供资金,作为你希望在所有地方都标配的东西,同时你还有按量付费或消费计量,用于你需要的地方。
Uh and then when it comes to co-pilot itself right we are trying to make sure that uh we in some sense are driving more and more value into the subscription uh with every model drop and essentially consolidating the frontier gains for broad deployment and in many instances as my remark said it funds this right as the thing that you want to have standard issue across the board and at the same time you have uh uh your uh pay as you go or consumption meters uh for places where you need it.
所以这两种选择都是开放的,我认为这正是为什么,正如Amy提到的,在co-pilot方面,我们正努力确保客户理解这两种选择,他们能够以最优的方式使用这两种选择,从而让自己受益。我们不希望客户过度购买某一样东西,然后觉得自己在token maxing,因为这对任何人都没有好处。
我们希望确保他们理解订阅的价值,以及它是如何持续提升价值的,它甚至不是静态的,同时你还可以使用这个消费计量。所以这就是我们销售动作中的一点复杂程度,甚至也包括客户的理解,我认为这些正在融合起来。我们对进展感觉非常好,但还有很多工作要做。
Um and so uh so both of those options are open and I think that's why uh the sec you know in with co-pilot as Amy referenced which is we're we're trying to make sure that customers understand both options they're able to use the almost the two options in the optimal way that benefits them. uh we don't want them to over buy one thing and then feel like they're token maxing because that doesn't serve anybody's purpose.
Uh we want to make sure that they understand the value of the subscription um and how it is a continually improving value. it's not even static and at the same time you can exercise this uh consumption meter and so that that's a little bit of the degree of sophistication in both in our sales motions even a customer's understanding that's I think coming together uh we feel very good about the progress but a lot more to do
我认为这也正是为什么我们投资了frontier co这家公司,再加上我们销售动作的变化,我之前稍微谈到过。我们需要这两样东西来确保客户,因为我认为Sak说的是,我们希望他们充分利用co-pilot许可证,并理解消费计量何时在为他们创造价值。
对FDE组织或frontier core co的投资,以及我们在Microsoft 365销售团队中现代工作方面的新动作,都是为了做到这一点。我认为,正如Safi所说,在编程之外的领域,这将会是一个较慢的推进,但我仍然认为我们仍在看到令人鼓舞的迹象,我对此感到乐观。
and I think I would say it's also why um we've made the investment into the frontier co company here coupled with changes in our sales motion which I talked a little bit about Um you know we need both of those things uh to make sure customers are because what I think Sak is saying we want them to utilize both the co-pilot license to its fullest and understand when the consumption meter is delivering value to them. uh the investment in the FDE organization or the frontier uh core co- as well as new motions within our modern uh work in Microsoft 365 sales teams um are both meant to do that and I think to Safi's point it will it will be a slower move uh outside of coding uh but I also still think uh we're still seeing encouraging signs and uh and I I'm I'm feel positive about that.
你在准备好的发言中说,未来如有需要,你会着手融资。你能谈谈你在债务和股权以及其他来源之间的策略吗?如果确实需要,你打算如何融资?
You said in the prepared remarks that you will approach uh raising capital if need be in the future. Can you discuss your strategy around it between debt and equity and other sources?
Um how do you intend to raise capital if need be?
直接回答你的问题,本季度我们没有披露co-pilot数字的更新。我们谈到了收入和用量方面的势头。
Uh and we did not disclose to answer your direct question update on the co-pilot number this quarter. We talked about momentum in uh revenue and usage.
听我说,我想我说的是,如果它是有吸引力的、合理的,我们很幸运,在融资能力方面有很大的灵活性。我以前谈过这一点。有一种融资形式叫租赁,我们一直把它作为一种工具来使用。另外,鉴于我们的利率评级所处的位置,我们很幸运能够进入债务市场,可以说我们还没能、也尚未动用这一渠道,当然还有其他选择。
但我认为,我的看法是,我们对自由现金流为正感到满意。我们对所花费的每一美元资本开支的回报感到满意,我们对此有信心,因此我们觉得自己有很多选择,可以在融资市场合理且有吸引力时加以利用。
Listen, I think what I said is if um if it's if it's attractive and makes sense, uh we're lucky uh we have a lot of flexibility in terms of our capacity uh to raise financing. I've talked about this before.
Um there's a form of financing called leasing and we've been using that one uh as a vehicle. Um there's also we're we're fortunate to have uh access in the debt markets um given that uh where our rates ratings are and and sort of we haven't been able to and we haven't yet I would say tap that and then of course there's other options but I think uh the way I see it is we're feeling good that we're free cash flow positive.
We feel good that the return on every dollar of capex we're spending, we're confident in that and therefore we feel like we have lots of options uh to be able to tap the financing markets when they make sense and they're attractive.
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