MU 因股价大幅上涨以及潜在的供给驱动型利润率压缩而令人担忧。
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美光正准备在今天收盘后公布其季度业绩。以下是目前的预期:华尔街预计调整后每股收益为 3,155 美元,高于上一季度,也明显高于去年同期。一年前,这一数字仅为每股 303 美元。
Micron is preparing to announce its quarterly results after the close of trading today. Here are the current projections: Wall Street is expecting adjusted earnings of $3,155 per share, which is up from the previous quarter and significantly higher than the same period last year.
A year ago , that figure was only $303 per share.
今年,美光因其定价能力而获得了显著提振。至于其营收,预计将超过 508 亿美元,同样远高于去年。美光的股价出现了显著上涨,其价值同比增幅超过 540%。
This year, Micron has received a significant boost thanks to its ability to set prices. As for its revenues, they are expected to exceed $50.8 billion, which is also much higher than last year.
Micron's stock has seen a remarkable rise, with its value increasing by more than 540% year-on-year.
现在,是时候讨论美光的表现了。在我们进入你的例子之前,我们想听听你对美光的看法。Daniel、Tom,我今天早上读了很多关于美光的文章。说实话,这有点令人担忧,因为首先,我看了一下图表。一年之内,股价上涨了 541%。
Okay, now it's time to discuss Micron's performance. So, before we move on to your example, we would like to hear your views on Micron. Daniel, Tom, I read a lot about Micron this morning.
To be honest, it's a bit worrying , because firstly, I look at the graph. In one year, the stock price rose by 541%.
我读到的一些文章和笔记提到了“放缓”这个词,意思是价格放缓。记住,这只股票是作为大宗商品来交易的,也就是说,它会从供应有限的状态转向供应过剩的状态,并据此进行交易,对吧?
Some of the articles and notes I read mentioned the word " slowdown," which means a slowdown in prices. Remember that this stock is traded as a commodity, meaning it moves from a state of limited supply to a state of excess supply, and it trades accordingly, right?
它此前一直受到节目中长期存在的限制。现在,有报道称中国正在增加供应,供应不再像过去那样稀缺。这对价格和利润率产生负面影响,一些分析师认为这一点在很大程度上被忽视了。
He had been suffering from long-standing restrictions in the show. Now, there are reports that China is increasing its supply, and that the supply is no longer as scarce as it once was.
This negatively affects prices and profit margins , and some analysts believe this has been largely ignored.
这些数字仍会保持良好,但如果它们显示出任何形式的放缓,无论是现货市场价格还是合约价格,那都会令人担忧。如果他们以任何方式提到那个词,这只股票都可能受到负面影响,因为它是作为大宗商品来交易的,会从供应有限的状态转向供需平衡或供应过剩的状态,这只股票可能会遇到问题。
The numbers will remain good, but if they indicate any kind of slowdown, whether in spot market prices or contract prices, that would be worrying. If they mention that word in any way , this stock may be negatively affected because it is traded as a commodity, moving from a state of limited supply to a state of equilibrium or surplus, and the stock may encounter a problem.
我不知道这会不会发生,但我读到的文章谈到了它发生的可能性,或者预测它会发生。因此,业绩指引可能很重要。但在读了一些关于美光的笔记之后,我变得比之前更加怀疑。我不确定他们能否实现显著增长。
问题是:他们能实现多大的增长?能实现令人瞩目的数字吗?
I don't know if it will happen, but the articles I've read talk about the possibility of it happening or predict it will happen. Therefore, guidance may be important. But I became more skeptical than I had been after reading some notes about Micron.
I'm not sure if they will achieve significant growth. The question is: how much growth will they achieve? Will it achieve impressive numbers?
你知道这一点,但这只股票的实际价格是多少,Diana Tom?好问题。Tom,你怎么看美光?Kevin 提出了一些很好的观点,因为在这份报告发布之前,预期非常高,原因是我们过去十二个月看到的股价大幅上涨。
You know that, but what is the actual price of this stock, Diana Tom? Good question. Tom, what do you think of Micron? Well, Kevin raised some good points because expectations are very high ahead of this report, due to the significant rise we've seen in the stock price over the past twelve months.
我认为关键点之一是基于市盈率的估值。这一数字仍处于个位数,因为市盈率(PE)中的盈利比率持续扩大。你提到他们预计营收约为 510 亿美元。这代表着巨大的跃升,较去年水平增长 350%。至于每股收益,预计将较去年水平增长 940%。
I think one of the key points is valuation based on the price-to-earnings ratio . The figure remains in the single digits because the earnings-to-earnings ratio in the price-to-earnings (PE) ratio continues to expand.
You mentioned that they expect revenues of approximately $51 billion. This represents a huge leap, 350% from last year's levels . As for earnings per share, they are expected to grow by 940% compared to last year's levels.
所以,如果从这个角度来看,再从估值的角度来看,这就是为什么市场的这种飞速上涨对许多投资者来说仍在持续,也是为什么会出现高达每股 1500 美元的目标价。
So, if we look at it from this perspective, and from the perspective of valuation, this is why this meteoric rise in the market continues for many investors , and why price targets of up to $1,500 per share are being seen.
因为人们是从形成预期的角度来看这件事的,而 Kevin 提出了一个重要观点。我认为预期对他们来说将极其重要。但请记住,这个科技板块有着历史上的繁荣与萧条周期,也许现在情况已不再如此,因为需求超过了供给,而且他们给出的未来预测更好了,不只是未来六个月或一年。
他们现在给出的是两到三年的预测,说:“供给将在 2026 年耗尽,并在 2027 年的大部分时间里持续如此。”
Because people look at it from the perspective of making expectations, and Kevin made an important point. I think expectations will be extremely important to them. But remember, this technology sector has historical boom-and-bust cycles, and perhaps that's no longer the case because demand is outpacing supply, and they are offering better forecasts for the future, not just for the next six months or year.
They are now offering two- or three-year forecasts, saying: "The supply will run out by 2026, and will remain so for most of 2027."
所有大型云计算公司都在争相抢购一切能买到的东西,因为他们知道价格会继续上涨。动态随机存取存储器(DRAM)和 NAND 存储器的价格在不断上涨。高带宽内存芯片不够,Micron 正大力聚焦于此,因为它们是利润率更高的芯片。而它们的价格还在继续上涨。
All the giant cloud computing companies are scrambling to buy up anything available, because they know that prices will continue to rise. Prices for Dynamic Random Access Memory (DRAM) and NAND memory are constantly rising.
There are not enough high-bandwidth memory chips , which Micron is focusing on heavily because they are higher-margin chips. And their prices continue to rise.
所以,这家公司一切进展顺利,但预期非常高,不过如果我们看它的估值,会发现相对于历史水平它相对便宜。
So, everything is going well for this company, but expectations are very high, but if we look at its valuation, we will find it relatively cheap compared to historical values.
这些观点也很精彩。你可以猜到我的交易在纸面上是什么样子,它是一种偏看跌的策略。所以,我看了预期波动,对吧?本周剩余时间大约在 76 美元。大约在 80 美元。所以,我找了一个能让我的操作成为一个像样数字的东西。
我看了 Micron 行权价为 1000 美元的一周期看跌期权日历。买入 10 月 9 日的看跌期权,卖出 10 月 2 日的看跌期权,两者行权价都是 1000 美元,不是对角,而是在行权价相等的日历上。
我寻找的价格大约在 7.50 美元,而该股现在的交易价略高于此,接近 790 美元,但在这里你必须做大量的价格研究,Tom,你知道的。
Excellent points too. Well, you can guess what my deal looks like on paper, which is a sort of bearish strategy . So, I looked at the expected movement, didn't I ? It's about $76 for the rest of the week.
It's about $80. So, I looked at something that would make my work a proper number. I looked at the calendar of one-week put options at $1000 in Micron. Buying a put option on October 9th and selling a put option on October 2nd, both with an execution price of $1000, not diagonally, but on the calendar where the execution price is equal.
I was looking for a price around $7.50, and the stock is now trading a little higher than that, trading near $790, but you have to do a lot of price research here, Tom, you know.
但是 Tom,这是一种用 750 美元来交易一只 1070 美元股票的方法,大约在 750 到 800 美元之间。现在,你可以构建一个向上日历。你可以使用看跌日历策略,Tom,但中小型账户仍然能够用这些策略来交易 Micron 股票。
But Tom, this is a way to trade a $1070 stock for $750, somewhere between $750 and $800. Now , you can create an upward calendar. You can use the bearish calendar strategy, Tom, but small and medium-sized accounts are still able to trade Micron shares using these strategies.
好。让我们分析一下这个策略。Kevin,这是一个短期策略,使用的是看跌期权日历。切换到 9 天后到期的 10 月 9 日周期权。他买入了一份价值 1000 美元的看跌期权。然后他把同样的 1000 美元看跌期权卖出,做空到 10 月 2 日的短期周期权,这些期权在仅仅两天后的周五到期。
简而言之,这是一个针对一周期看跌期权的看跌日历策略。你支付大约 750 美元的费用。这些费用代表了风险的价值。可能略高于这个数。所以,记住这一点:750 美元的一周看跌期权日历策略。
如你所知,这非常昂贵,但与此同时,如果你看看你在这里卖出的是什么,Kevin 卖出的 10 月 2 日周期权,目前定价为 74 美元、处于盈利范围之外,仍然值 10 美元。因此,存在显著的外部期权溢价。
期权市场定价的单日波动大约为 76 美元,该股上下皆有可能。
Good. Let's analyze this strategy. It's a short-term strategy, Kevin, using a put options calendar. Switch to the weekly October 9 options that expire in 9 days. He bought a put option worth $1000.
He then sold the same $1,000 put option into short-term weekly October 2 options that expire on Friday, just two days later. In short, it is a bearish calendar strategy for one-week put options.
You pay approximately $750 in fees. These fees represent the value of the risk. It might be slightly higher than that. So, remember this: $750 for a one-week calendar put options strategy.
As you know, it's very expensive, but at the same time, if you look at what you're selling here , the weekly October 2 option that Kevin is selling , which is currently priced at $74 out of the profit range, is still worth $10.
Therefore, there is a significant external option premium. The one-day move priced by the options market is approximately $76 plus or minus in either direction for this stock.
这与 Kevin 设定的行权价一致。它使用了期权市场目前定价的计算。现在,你可以从风险图中看到,这笔交易在哪里产生最大利润?在行权价 1000 附近或接近 1000 处,你计算看跌期权的日历,对吧?
但你可能仍然在 1000 两侧各有 60 美元的范围,可以在这笔交易中潜在获利。下跌时也许是 940 美元,上涨时也许是 1060 美元。所以,即使你的目标行权价是 1000,在接下来的两天里你仍然有一个价格范围。
This is consistent with the execution price set by Kevin. It uses the calculations that the options market is pricing at this point. Now, you can see here from the risk profile, where does this deal generate the most profit?
At or near the strike price of 1000, you calculate the calendar for put options, right? But you probably still have a $60 range on either side of 1000 from which you can potentially make a profit on this trade.
Perhaps $940 in case of a drop, and perhaps $1060 in case of an increase. So, you still have a price range even with your target execution price of 1000 over the next two days.
然后你会看到近期期权的隐含波动率下降,这会抬高这份合约的价格。你现在支付 750。你在 10 月 2 日的周期看跌期权中卖出大约 122% 的隐含波动率,在那里你以 1000 卖出看跌期权。
在 10 月 9 日的期权中,也就是你买入的地方,你买入大约 76% 的隐含波动率。因此,这种波动率变化降低了入场点价格,但它仍然是一份按周计算的昂贵空头合约。不过,它给了你一个有限的价格范围。
你不希望发生的是股价停留在这个水平或上涨。你不希望股价崩跌并跌破 9.40 或 9.30。那时你就会开始失去盈利能力。但你知道风险究竟有多大,就是 750 美元。这是你每笔交易支付的金额。
因此,你通过使用看跌期权日历给自己承担了一些风险,同时你利用了买入和卖出期权系列之间的波动率变化。
Then you will see a decrease in the implied volatility in near-term options , which will raise the price of this contract. You are now paying 750. You are selling approximately 122% of the implied volatility in the weekly put option on October 2, where you are selling the put option at 1000.
In the options on October 9, where you are buying, you are buying approximately 76% of the implied volatility. Therefore , this volatility variation lowers the entry point price , but it remains an expensive short contract on a weekly basis.
However, it gives you a limited price range. What you don't want to happen is for the stock price to stay at this level or rise. You don't want the stock price to collapse and fall below 9.40 or 9.30.
Then you will start losing profitability. But you know exactly how much of a risk there is, which is $750. This is the amount you pay for each transaction. Therefore, you are giving yourself some risk by using a put options calendar, and you are taking advantage of the volatility variation between the buy and put options series.
Kevin,你对这笔交易采取了更被动的方式。它是中性偏看涨的,但我使用了一个向下方向的不平衡蝶式卖出策略,即我买入股票并从中获得回报。我会在四种情景中的三种里获胜。让我们分析一下这笔交易。
10 月 2 日的周期权,仅仅两天后到期,这是一个短期策略。我买入一份盈利范围之外、行权价为 1040 的看跌期权。我卖出两份行权价为 1030 的看跌期权,然后我买入一份行权价为 990 的看跌期权。
你将获得大约 7.10 美元的利润。这是当前的交易价格。Kevin 说得对;价格发现机制至关重要。这些单个期权的买卖价差非常宽。所以,你也许能收到 750 美元,甚至 8 美元。
记住这一点。不过,如果你累积 7.10 美元的利润,你的风险将是 2290 美元。但这远低于 990 的行权价。正如你在这里的风险图中看到的,如果我收取 710 美元的利润,我在每个价差上把 700 美元的利润保留在哪里?
如果价格高于 1040 的行权价,你只会保留你已经收取的利润。但正如你从风险图中看到的,我在接近或处于我卖出两份期权的 1030 空头行权价处获得一个小的利润空间。现在,Kevin,这笔交易的盈亏平衡点是 1012.90 美元。
因此,我有一个安全边际。它仍然在标准差范围之内。这让我能够在不平衡蝶式策略中从这类头寸中获得额外利润。
Kevin, you've taken a more passive approach to this deal. It is neutral to bullish, but I used an unbalanced butterfly selling strategy to the downside, where I buy the stock and get a return on it.
And I will win in three out of four scenarios. Let's analyze this deal. Weekly options dated October 2nd that expire in just two days , this is a short-term strategy. I buy one put option outside the profit range at an execution price of 1040.
I sell two put options at an execution price of 1030, then I buy one put option at an execution price of 990. You will get a profit of approximately $7.10. This is the current trading price.
Kevin is right; the price discovery mechanism is essential. The bid and ask price differences for these individual options are very wide. So, you might be able to collect $750, maybe even $8.
Keep this in mind. However, if you accumulate a profit of $7.10, your risk will be $2290. But this is much less than the execution price of 990. And as you can see here in the risk profile, if I collect a profit of $710, where do I keep that profit of $700 for each price difference?
If the price is higher than the execution price of 1040, you will only keep the profit you have collected . But as you can see here from the risk profile, I get a small profit margin at or near the short strike price where I sold two options at a strike price of 1030.
Now, Kevin, the breakeven point for this trade is $1012.90. Therefore, I have a margin of safety. It is still within the range of standard deviation. This allows me to make an additional profit from this type of position in the unbalanced butterfly strategy .
是的,这是一个向上蝶式策略。不过,你在 1030 的行权价上承担了一些风险。你在 1040 和 1030 期权上处于买入头寸,报价为 10 美元。但你在我的 1030 和 990 期权上处于卖出头寸,报价为 40 美元。
风险就在这里。这是在我的 1030 和 990 期权上的垂直卖出。这就是你获得利润的地方。如果价格稳定在这个水平,或者上涨,或者小幅下跌,你将保留这个余额,如果它接近 1030 的行权价,也许还能获得更多。
但是,如你所知,Tom,由于空头头寸的规模,风险在下行方向。所以,这是一个有趣的看待方式,因为它提出了一个问题:如果什么都没发生呢?如果什么都没发生,Tom 的中心将盈利。至于我的中心,如果价格下跌,它可能需要一些帮助,Diane。
Yes, this is an upward butterfly strategy. However, you are exposed to some risk at the execution price of 1030. You are in a buy position on the 1040 and 1030 options, with an offer of $10.
But you are in a selling position on my options 1030 and 990, with an offer of $40. This is where the risk lies. This is a vertical sale on my 1030 and 990 options. This is where you get your profit.
If the price stabilizes at this level, or rises, or falls slightly, you will keep this balance, and perhaps even get more if it approaches the strike price of 1030. But, as you know, Tom, the risk is on the downside due to the size of the short position.
So, this is an interesting way to look at it, because it raises the question: What if nothing happens? If nothing happens, Tom's center will be profitable. As for my center, it might need some help if the price drops, Diane.
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这个频道对 $MU 的历次判断
Schwab Network 在这只股票上共 18 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。