美光目前下跌23%,市盈率为未来盈利的5倍;下季度业绩超预期,且未来12个月新增供给有限,因此短期可能是一个动量买入机会,3至5年应该表现不错。但来自三星、SK海力士和中国竞争对手的供给上升会侵蚀存储寡头的利润率,因此时间越往后,乐观情绪越难维持。
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Micron 的股价已经下跌了23%,许多投资者认为,仅以未来盈利的五倍交易,这代表了极大的价值。但是,Lou,今天我们面临的大问题是:现在是买入的好时机,还是 Micron 已经见顶了?
Micron's stock has fallen by 23%, and many investors believe it represents great value trading at only five times future earnings. But, Lou, the big question for us today is: Is this a good time to buy, or have we already peaked with Micron?
首先,从供应角度来看,短期内影响 Micron 股价的因素之一是进入市场的供应增加。如果你在关注 Micron 的股票,你认为一家中国存储供应商是否值得考虑?
Firstly, from a supply perspective, one of the things that affects Micron's stock in the short term is the increase in supply entering the market. Do you think a Chinese memory supplier is something worth considering if you're looking at Micron's stock?
是的,Micron 的股价确实低,但那又怎样?基于这种几乎无限的需求,该股在过去一年里已经上涨了超过500%。
I mean, yes, Micron's stock is low, but so what? The stock has risen by more than 500% over the past year based on this almost unlimited demand.
如果有另一个参与者来争夺这个市场的一部分,那就会改变这门生意的经济逻辑,就是这样。但到了2027年底,甚至2028年和2029年,突然之间 Micron 会增加供应,SK Hynix 会增加供应,Samsung 也会,而且你至少有一两家来自中国的供应商会向市场带来更多供应。
If another player is competing for a portion of that market, that changes the economics of the business, period. But when you get to the end of 2027 and even 2028 and 2029, suddenly Micron will add supply , SK Hynix will add supply, as will Samsung, and you have at least one or two suppliers from China who will bring more supply to the market.
所以,我们总是听到需求超过供应,但看起来在供应端,很快就会有更多的供应可用,这将彻底改变这个等式。但在某种程度上,Micron 的核心业务是这种不那么高端的存储,无论是用于 iPod 还是所有其他需要存储的产品。
So, we always hear about demand exceeding supply, but it seems that on the supply side, there is a lot more that will soon be available, which will radically change that equation.
But to some extent , Micron's core business is this less sophisticated memory , whether it's for iPods or all these other products that need memory.
而 CXMT 可能在多大程度上拿走这部分业务,嗯,这意味着你的长期客户可能会转向另一家供应商。
And to what extent CXMT might take that, well, that means your long-term customer could switch to another provider.
所以,作为 Micron 的股东,你不仅越来越受益于 AI 带来的收益,而且如果其他一些业务转向别处,你就会变得依赖这些收益,我认为这会改变该股的长期前景。
So, increasingly, as a Micron shareholder, you not only benefit from AI gains , but you become dependent on them if some of those other businesses go elsewhere, which changes the long-term outlook for the stock , I think.
所以,你在这里说的是,Micron 和其他公司在随机存取存储器(DRAM)中留下的缺口将被别人填补。
So, what you're saying here is that the gap left by Micron and other companies in random access memory (DRAM) will be filled by someone else.
所以,我们现在达到了87%,这意味着 Micron 每1美元的销售额中,有87美分代表毛利润,其中81美分代表营业利润。
So, we've now reached 87%, which means that for every dollar of Micron's sales, 87 cents of that represents gross profit. 81 cents of which represents operating profit.
就在两年前,也就是2023年的11月季度,毛利润甚至是负的。当你从长期角度考虑这些利润率水平时,你可以把 Nvidia 等一系列公司都算进来,你认为会回归到平均水平吗?也许不是明年,而是在3、4、5或6年之后,最终回归到20%、30%或40%的毛利率?
Just two years ago , in the November quarter of 2023, gross profit was even negative. When you think about these margin levels in the long run, and you can include a range of companies in this such as Nvidia, do you think there will be a return to the average where we eventually return, perhaps not next year, but after 3, 4, 5 or 6 years, to a gross profit margin of 20, 30 or 40%?
看起来就是这样。我不想成为那个说“这次不一样”的人,因为我认为未来几个季度不会有什么不同。现在情况可能不同,但从长远来看,我无法想象它们会不同。这是一种传统上基于基础大宗商品的商业活动。
That's how it looks. I mean , I don't want to be the person who says it's different this time , because I don't think it's going to be any different for the next few quarters. Things may be different now, but in the long run, I can't imagine they will be different.
This is a business activity that is traditionally based on basic commodities.
目前看多的论点是,这些新增供应中的大部分要到2028年才会投入使用。看空的论点是,2028年近在眼前,这是不可避免的现实。
The positive argument at the moment is that much of that new offering will not enter service until 2028. The negative argument is that 2028 is just around the corner , and it is an inevitable reality.
是的,我很难相信,他们过去无法持续实现的数字,仅仅因为达到了就变成了新常态。在我看来,这很可能是最不可能出现的情景。
Yes, it's hard for me to believe that numbers they couldn't consistently achieve in the past have become the new normal just because they reached them. This is probably the least likely scenario in my view.
Micron 股票未来看多的论点是什么?仅仅是关于运营流程吗?应该还有股票回购的部分。我认为由于他们从美国政府获得了一些资金,今年晚些时候之前他们无法开始回购,但是哇,如果你以盈利的五倍回购股票,那可能非常有说服力。
What is the positive argument for Micron stock going forward ? Is it only about operational processes? There should be a share buyback component. I don't think they can start doing that until later this year because of some funding they've received from the U.S. government, but wow, if you're buying back shares at five times the earnings, that could be very convincing.
当你考虑这只股票能否从我们录制时每股约922美元涨到每股1500美元或2000美元时,应该会发生什么?他们上个季度实现了540亿美元的收入。我相信,这同比增长了380%。
When you look at whether the stock will rise from around $922 per share as we record this to $1,500 or $2,000 per share, what should happen? They generated $54 billion in revenue in the last quarter.
That was a 380% increase, I believe, on a year-on-year basis.
在这些利润率下,调整后每股收益大幅飙升。预测显示还会有更多增长。我认为他们预期的是610亿,而分析师预测的约为570亿。
Adjusted earnings per share skyrocket with these margins. The forecast indicates more to come. I think they are expecting 61 billion versus the approximately 57 billion that analysts predicted.
而且是的,我相信有一个350亿美元的股票回购计划,计划在不久的将来启动。有这样的利润率,你就能回购自己的股票。所以,现在正面的论点是:我希望这能持续下去。
And yes, I believe there is a $35 billion share buyback program scheduled to begin in the near future. With profit margins like these, you can repurchase your shares. So, the positive argument now is: I hope this continues .
所以,至少在未来十二个月左右,不会有太多新的供应进入市场。其中一部分供应将可在市场上获得。这可能为这些公司带来长期增长,而说到长期,我指的是未来三到五年。我认为很难知道五年或更长时间后会发生什么,但这应该是Micron的一个非常好的时期。
So, at least , as you know, for the next twelve months or so, not much new offering will be coming to market . Part of that offer will be available on the market. This may provide long- term growth for these companies, and by long-term I mean, you know, the next three to five years.
I think it's very difficult to know what will happen in five years or more, but this should be a very good period for Micron.
好,我们来看看下行风险。如果这只股票继续下跌,你认为原因是什么?竞争在加剧,我认为这周只是提醒了大家,竞争已经存在,并不是真正的意外。无论是Samsung、Hynix、中国公司,还是任何其他实体,随着时间推移,系统中的供应只会更多。
Okay, let's look at the downside . If the stock continues to decline, what do you think is the reason? the competition is increasing, and I think this week was just a reminder that the competition is already there , not a real surprise.
Whether it's Samsung, Hynix, Chinese companies, or any other entity, there will simply be more supply in the system over time.
我们已经说过,内存是周期性的。它一直如此。我认为它将继续如此。部分原因是供应可能增加。当所有人都在努力增加供应时,资本支出随着收入一起飙升。现在,他们负担得起。这是投资自己业务的正确时机。
We've already said that, memory is cyclical. It always has been . And I think it will remain so. Part of that is due to the possibility of increasing supply. While everyone is working to increase supply, capital expenditures are skyrocketing along with revenues.
Now, they can afford it . This is the right time to invest in your business.
另一件事,作为投资者,你需要意识到目前的波动是正常的。我快速查了一下。Micron 45的股票今年出现了超过5%的波动。45次单日波动,幅度超过5%。这对保守型投资者来说不是一只安全的股票。
Another thing, as an investor, is that you need to realize that fluctuations at the moment are normal. I looked it up quickly. Micron 45's stock has seen a movement of more than 5% this year. 45 movements in one day, representing more than 5%.
This is not a safe stock for conservative investors .
我认为我们真的需要强调竞争方面,因为2026年的独特之处在于,这个市场是一个寡头垄断。这有点类似于美国的电信行业,不是吗?有三家主要供应商。他们都能心照不宣地相互理解,你知道吗?
让我们把供应维持在目前水平。让我们把这些利润率保持在极高水平。我们大家都过得很好。
I think we really need to highlight the competitive aspect, because what was unique in 2026 was that this market was an oligopoly. This is somewhat similar to the telecommunications sector in the United States, is n't it?
There are three main suppliers. They can all understand each other implicitly, you know? Let's keep the offer at its current level. Let's keep these margins extremely high. Things are going very well for all of us.
我认为这些中国供应商目前在这个领域很有意思、并从下行方面构成威胁的原因是,他们不属于这种默契的一部分。中国制造商有着与许多打造我们今天所知这个行业的美国和韩国公司完全不同的激励结构。
因此,他们可能不太关心短期或长期利润,并愿意降低那些利润率。
The reason I think these Chinese suppliers are interesting in this area right now and pose a threat from the downside is that they are not part of this tacit understanding. Chinese manufacturers have a completely different incentive structure than many of the American and South Korean companies that built the industry we know today.
Therefore, they may be less concerned with short-term or long-term profits, and are willing to reduce those profit margins.
所以,我认为这真的值得关注,因为几年后我们可能会回过头来说:“嘿,Micron在高带宽内存(HBM)领域仍然有这块业务。也许它达不到我们今天实现的87%利润率,但它仍然是一块拥有65%利润率的很棒的业务。”
但他们完全放弃了DRAM业务,因为他们让其他一些供应商进入了市场。
So, I think this is something really worth watching because we may look back in a few years and say, " Hey, Micron still has this business in the high-bandwidth memory (HBM) space.
Maybe it's not reaching the 87% margin we're achieving today, but it's still a great business with a 65% profit margin." But they completely abandoned the DRAM business because they allowed some of these other suppliers to enter the market.
我倾向于对这些公司持悲观态度,因为它们的上行轨迹非常强劲。市场关注的是未来18到24个月会发生什么。这个市场并不真正关心下个季度会发生什么。数字将会非常出色。让我们再次强调这一点。
这不是一家会在下个季度甚至明年初交出糟糕业绩的公司。
I am inclined to be pessimistic about these companies because their upward trajectory has been very strong . The market is looking at what will happen over the next 18 to 24 months.
This market doesn't really care what happens in the next quarter. The numbers will be fantastic. Let's emphasize that once again. This is not a company that will deliver poor results in the next quarter or even early next year.
如果你看长期,3到5年,你倾向于乐观还是悲观?我认为你的展望越长,就越难乐观。我毫不怀疑动量交易者可能会从当前形势中获益。但是的,你看得越远,我就越认为我给投资者的最佳建议是关注未来,同时牢记过去的教训。在这种情况下,我相信过去表明长期趋势是向下的。
If you look at the long term, from 3 to 5 years, do you tend to be optimistic or pessimistic? I think the longer your outlook is , the harder it becomes to be optimistic. I have no doubt that momentum traders may benefit from the current situation.
But yes, the further ahead you look, the more I think my best advice to investors is to focus on the future , while keeping in mind the lessons of the past. In this case, I believe that the past indicates that the long-term trend is downward.
短期内,我认为这周可能是一个由动量驱动的买入机会。
In the short term, I think this could be a momentum-driven buying opportunity this week.
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