$MU · Chip Stock Investor · 2026-10-29
Micron 约13倍市盈率看似便宜,只是因为市场在为未来两三年的利润定价;而2028-2029年之后,有太多情形显示营收停滞、利润率快速下滑,因此无法为那部分利润估值。如果盈利能力持续超出预期,它可能仍然便宜;公允价值中点为1,700美元,说话者仍将持仓延续至2027年。
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另一个问题是关于 Micron 的,涉及估值。
Other question was on Micron, regarding valuation.
鉴于 Micron 的供应大约到 2029 年就已售罄,我认为说 Micron 大概是 2028 财年会更稳妥一些。
Given Micron's supply is sold out until 2029 or so, I think it would be safer to say maybe fiscal 2028 for Micron.
他们并没有就 2029 年给出确切的说法,但我们会在本次演示的过程中谈到这一点。把估值延伸到三年期之外是否合理?在三年期内增长门槛是 9%,这让它看起来相当便宜,但如果把时间跨度拉长,它就不再便宜了。
They didn't quite comment on 2029 exactly, but we'll get to that in the course of this presentation. Would it make sense to value beyond the three-year period where the growth bar is 9%, which makes it look quite cheap, but if we stretch the timeframe out, this isn't cheap anymore.
我想我们很想弄明白该如何看待这些周期性公司的指标,却找不到你指出这一点的文章和视频。
I guess we'd love to understand how to think about the metrics for these cyclical companies and can't find the articles, videos where you pointed this out.
所以是 Micron、SK hynix、Sandisk,所有这些公司。但它们看起来便宜,并不是因为市场对未来结果的判断错了。
So Micron, SK hynix, Sandisk, all of them. But they look cheap, not because the market is wrong about the future outcome.
我们也不知道 Micron、SK hynix 和 Samsung 这些公司一直在签的一些较长期协议之外会是什么情况。
We also don't know what lies beyond some of these longer term agreements, companies like Micron and SK hynix and Samsung have been signing.
那么话虽如此,我想在这里就 Micron 讲几件事。那么首先,Micron 是一家 IDM。
So with that said, I wanna walk through a couple of things here on Micron. So first things first, Micron is an IDM.
所以这就引出了一个问题:Micron 为什么这么便宜?这太荒谬了。市场肯定是错的。如果你做一个反向 DCF,是的,目前 Micron 的滚动 12 个月市盈率约为 13 倍,按前瞻口径甚至更低。
And so it begs the question, why is Micron so cheap? This is ridiculous. Surely the market is wrong. And if you do a reverse DCF, yeah, currently Micron trading at trailing 12 month PE ratio of about 13x and even lower on a forward looking basis.
仅在未来一年,Micron 产生的利润就会是这一计算所预测的未来三年利润的几倍,而这还只是它一年的利润。
Just in the next year alone, Micron will generate several times more profit than what this calculation is forecasting over the next three years alone in just one year.
就这一点而言,Micron 真的有可能永远保持 60% 以上的净利润率吗,63%?
With this one, is it really feasible that Micron continues earning a 60% plus net profit margin for forever, 63%?
Micron 即将开始面对它去年刚刚录得的巨额营收增长所带来的高基数,所以我预计营收增速会降到只有两位数,从我们目前的位置看,未来三年 50% 的复合年增长率至少可以说是非常惊人的。
Micron is going to start lapping the massive revenue increases they just logged this last year, and so I'd expect the revenue growth rate dips down into just double digits, 50% CAGR for three years from where we're at right now would be epic to say the least.
那么,按三年后的正常化市盈率来算,这给我们今天带来什么结果呢?Micron 的市盈率更接近 17 倍,而不是 13 倍。
So what does that get us today on a normalized PE ratio three years from now, Micron is trading more at like a 17X PE multiple, not 13.
市场现在的做法是,它想把三年的利润提前拉进来,并且只按未来三到五年的利润来给 Micron 以及其他高度周期性的 AI 基础设施组件供应商和零部件供应商估值。
What's happening with the market is it wants to pull in three years' worth of profit and value Micron and the other highly cyclical component providers and parts providers for AI infrastructure only on the next three to five years' worth of profit.
所以在这种情景下,并不是说 Micron 已经没有上涨空间了。在这一情景的中值情况下,公允价值仍然是每股 1,700 美元。
So in this scenario, it's not like there's no upside left for Micron. At the midpoint of this scenario, fair value is still $1,700 per share.
但在右下角那个小表格里,有一些退出倍数和净利润率的情景,在这些情景下,该股的估值可能远低于这个水平,或者反过来,远高于每股1700美元。
But in the little table there in the bottom right, there are some exit multiples and net profit margin scenarios where the stock could be valued much lower than that, or conversely, much higher than $1,700 per share.
但重点是,这有助于说明为什么市场允许Micron以看似如此便宜的盈利倍数交易,尽管很明显,该公司未来几年将赚取巨额利润。
But the idea is this helps illustrate why the market is allowing Micron to go for such a seemingly cheap earnings multiple, even though it's pretty clear that the company is going to be making a massive amount of money over the next few years.
因为我们不知道2028年、2029年之后会发生什么,有太多可能性,而其中太多可能性是收入戛然而止、利润率开始快速下滑。
Because we don't know what is going to happen beyond 2028, 2029, there are too many probabilities, and too many of those probabilities are revenue comes to a grinding halt, profit margins start coming down rapidly.
有太多这样的可能结果,所以现在还无法对那部分利润进行估值。因此,市场把未来两到三年压缩了,这就是你看到这些看似便宜的倍数的原因,虽然这并不太说得通,但这正是发生这种情况的原因。所以,这并不意味着Micron不便宜。
There are too many possible outcomes like that to value that profit yet. And so the market is compressing the next two to three years, and that's where you get these seemingly cheap multiples and while it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, that is the reason why this is happening. So, it doesn't mean Micron isn't cheap.
它很可能确实便宜,尤其是如果他们在盈利能力上继续带来超出预期的惊喜。更重要的是,既然他们手头有那么多现金,他们决定如何用这些现金来发展业务,并为制造业公司总会遭遇的不可避免的周期性做好准备。
It very well could be, especially if they continue to surprise to the upside on what they're able to generate in profitability. And even more importantly than that, now that they have all of that cash on hand, what they decide to do with that cash to evolve their business and prepare for inevitable cyclicality that always hits manufacturing companies.
Micron和其他存储公司可能继续创造出远超以往任何时候的利润。这就是我们配置它们的原因,也是我们持续保持配置的原因。
Micron and the other memory companies could continue generating profit well in excess of what they ever have in the past. That's why we allocated to them, and that's why we have continued staying allocated to them.
即使我们正接近2027年,我们也很乐意继续持有。
Even as we're approaching twenty twenty-seven, we're happy to continue holding.
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