NBIS 看涨:需求超过供给,因此定价没有下跌,Nebius 可以在数年内自主定价。2027 年将到位的 1 吉瓦 Vera Rubin 算力有望带来数百亿美元营收,其执行力优于同行;为约 300 亿美元的资本开支提供资金需要更多资本或稀释。
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Nebia也是。
So is Nebia.
这是看涨的。我认为定价情况令人兴奋。我并不太担心 Elon 的这些言论。这不会改变我们从 Nebius 看到的客户需求。我们刚刚在 GTC 上看到了更新。就算他们想满足需求,也满足不了。
It's bullish. Um, I I think pricing is exciting. I'm not really worried about this Elon uh these Elon comments. It's not going to change the customer demand that we're seeing from Nebius.
I mean, we just saw the update at GTC. They can't service the demand if they wanted to.
终局会有些不同,但我认为,我们会有好几年的时间,基本上由 Nebius 来决定价格,而客户乐于支付这个价格,是的,我认为目前这样很好。
um endgame is going to be a little bit different, but I think that we have years of uh you know, Nebius essentially deciding what the price is and customers happy to pay it and um yeah, I think for now it's good.
但根据 Neb 今天在柏林 GTC 上的发言,价格并没有下降。需求实在太大,供给不足,但他们正在努力解决这些问题,对吧?就像 Arcadia 说的那样。然后 CRO 说,他们在 27 年将有价值 1 吉瓦的 Vera Rubin 上线。
But based on Neb's comments today at GTC Berlin, pricing is not coming down. There is just too much demand, not enough supply, but they are trying to fix those tasks, right? As as Arcadia said.
And then um the CRO said that they have a gigawatt worth of Vera Rubins coming online in 27.
1 吉瓦的 Vera Rubin 意味着数百亿美元的潜在收入。我不担心这个领域里的好公司,但没错,也许你该担心那些无法按时让足够多 GPU 上线、或者建不好数据中心的企业。
A gigawatt worth of Vera Rubin is tens of billions of dollars in in potential revenue. I am not worried about the good companies in this space, but yeah, maybe you should be worried about the companies that cannot get enough GPUs online on time or build good data centers, I guess.
Nebius 一直是一家非常出色的运营者。
Nebius has been an amazing operator.
大概是在 80% 那一档,这包括 CoreWeave 和 Nebius 吗?我认为它们和超大规模厂商、Spax 以及 Oracle 一起属于那 20%。
it's like in the 80% does that include core weaver nebas I I think they're in the 20% along with the hyperscalers and spax and Oracle
就连 CoreWeave 和 Nebius 之间也有相当大的差异,更别说和很多人称为第三名的 IN 相比了,我认为仅这三家公司之间就存在巨大的执行差距。
there's quite a big differentiation between even Corweave and Nebius and let's say IN which a lot of people say is third place and they're like I think there's a huge execution difference just between those three names.
这就是 Neil 提到的 Neba CRO 的那段话。那接下来呢?我喜欢这场主题演讲的一点是,他实际上也花了相当多时间谈 Verus,而 Vera Rubin 对行业至关重要。
现在,大家对下一代算力很兴奋。我们主要从模型构建者那里听到这种声音,但现在也从市场更广泛的部分听到了。所以,让 Jensen 分享什么有价值、以及为什么 Veros 重要,非常有帮助。
我们明年将有价值 1 吉瓦的 Veros,而且已经对它们有显著需求,很高兴由 Nvidia 带头,确保大家知道这对所有人来说都是重要的下一步。
this was that comment that Neil was talking about from Neba CRO like what next? Well, what I loved about the keynote was he actually also spent a fair amount of time about Verus and Vera Rubins are critical to the industry.
Right now, folks are um excited about the next generation compute. We're hearing it from we heard it mostly from model builders, but now we're also hearing it from the broader portion of the market.
So, getting him getting Jensen to share, you know, what's valuable and why Veros are important was super helpful. Um, we have a gigawatt worth of virus coming next year and already have significant demand for them and it's great to be having Nvidia leading the way making sure that folks know that this is an important next step for all of them.
他们将让 1 吉瓦的 Vera Rubin 上线。
They're going to bring a gigawatt of Vera Rubins online.
是的,她在盘后确实受到了很大打击,但再说一次,基于 SpaceX、基于 Meta 来看,感觉不像是半导体在抛售,而是因为大型科技公司才抛售。感觉更像是宏观因素。
yeah, I mean she was really getting hit here after hours, but once again it based on SpaceX, based on meta, it does not feel like if the semis are dumping, it's dumping because of big tech. It feels a lot more like macro.
这家小公司现在值多少?Nebus 现在值多少?440 亿,430 亿,430 亿。1 吉瓦的 Vera Rubin,如果你基本上说,嘿,我们要像 SpaceX 那样以短期合约把它卖出去,那就是 500 亿,450 到 500 亿,甚至可能更高,因为我们从没见过 Vera Rubin 以现货价出售,我们只见过 GB300 可能是最高的现货价,所以到 2027 年,1 吉瓦可能达到每兆瓦 6000 万美元,那每年就是 450 亿到 600 亿美元的新增收入。
This tiny company that's worth How much is Nebus worth right now? 44 43 >> 43 billion a gigawatt of Vera Rubin's you know if you were to essentially say hey we're going to sell that on short-term deals similar to SpaceX like that's 50 billion 4550 billion maybe even higher because we've never seen Vera Rubin uh Vera Rubin sold that spot really we've only seen uh GB300's as maybe the highest spot price so it could maybe be freaking 60 million per megawatt on a on one gigawatt in 2027 you're looking at anywhere anywhere between 45 to $60 billion of new revenue per year.
是的。但它正在上线,这意味着人们需要明白,你可能会退出。我是说,退出速率可能就是那样。是的。是的。如果他们也能够以溢价价格收取整个 1 吉瓦的费用。但这又回到我们昨天说的。我是说,明年的退出速率很可能远高于 300 亿美元。
Yeah. But it's coming online which means people need to understand you might exit. I mean the exit rate might be that. Yeah. Yeah. If also if they can charge the whole gigawatt at a at a premium price.
But this goes back to what we said yesterday. I mean the exit r for next year could very well be well above $30 billion.
你认为他们为了让这 1 吉瓦中哪怕一半上线,将不得不稀释股权或大量举债,还是你认为他们有足够的预付费合约、照付不议之类的安排,能够……
Do you think they're going to have to dilute or raise a lot of debt to bring even half of that gigawatt online or you think they have enough uh prepaid contracts, take or pay stuff that'll
不,他们得,他们说过,仅基于他们今天手上的积压订单,他们就要筹集更多资金。那么,如果让你猜,明年我们应该现实地预期 Nebus 会有多少稀释或资本筹集?以 1 吉瓦为参照,其中 50%,那就是 250 亿,如果他们能收取的话,那成本是多少,至少还得再……
No, they got to they they said they're going to raise more money just based on the backlog that they have today. So ho how much realistically should we expect in dilution or or raising of capital from Nebus next year if you had to guess like and take the 1 gawatt as a reference 50% of it that's what 25 billion if they could charge how much does that cost like it's got to be at least another
看看目前资本开支的估计,我们看到的数字大约是 300 亿,接近 300 亿,我说明年,而且很可能还会更大。300 亿,他们得通过稀释或可转换债券来筹集,对吧?
let's see what the capex estimates are as of right now we are looking at uh 30 around close to 30 billion I'd say next year which probably will be bigger bigger than that. 30 they would have to raise either via dilution or convertible notes, right?
他们现在有多少现金?80 亿。80。80。同时还有 80 亿的长期债务。但话说回来,这也取决于未来资本开支中有多少是预付款。如果它又在增加,那么核心业务应该会开始为这轮建设提供资金,比如说,到27年下半年左右,缓慢但稳步地推进。
How much cash do they have right now? >> Uh eight bill >> eight >> eight >> with eight billion in long-term debt. But again it also depends on how much of the future capex is prepayments.
If if it's again increasing then then the core business should start to to sponsor let's say the the buildout by second half of 27 or so slowly but surely.
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