$NVDA · Jose Najarro Stocks · 2026-10-30
对于Nvidia可能为Anthropic一个460兆瓦项目的NScale债务提供数十亿美元担保的未经证实报道,条款与风险敞口均未知,说话者未必看空:Nvidia现金充裕,兼具供应商、投资者、客户和兜底方多重角色,过去曾提供最高8.6亿美元的租赁担保,收入分成也可能带来正面影响;但他希望得到确认,也看到了看空逻辑,只有在Nvidia并非全额出资或兜底一切的情况下他才不看空。
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我们还看到一些近期消息影响 Nvidia,涉及他们为某些 Neocloud 厂商提供兜底、并可能提供资金。我想先从 Nvidia 和 NScale 说起,谈谈他们如何为一些新产能的融资提供潜在支持。
We also got some recent news impacting Nvidia and them kind of backstopping and providing potentially capital for certain Neocloud players. I do want to start with Nvidia and NScale and how they're financing some they're potentially supporting some financing of new capacity.
所以我们真正想看到的第一个推动因素是 Nvidia 的财报。据我了解,来自 The Information 的最新报道称,Nvidia 可能为一个460兆瓦的 Anthropic 项目担保数十亿美元的 NScale 债务。最终条款和风险敞口仍未确认。
So the real first kind of push that we want to see is this Nvidia report. So latest reports coming in from I believe the information was that Nvidia may guaranteed billions of nscale debt for a 460 megawatt anthropic projects.
So final terms and exposures remain unconfirmed.
现在市场并不喜欢这件事,对吧?Nvidia 此前曾投资过 Neocloud 公司。我确实认为他们是 NScale 的投资者。
Now the market is not liking this right. So and Nvidia has previously invested in neocloud companies. I do believe they are an investor of NScale.
Nvidia 投资了他们,对吧?但现在看来,一大担忧是信贷正在枯竭。如果信贷正在枯竭,而这也是过去一两周我们在 AI Neocloud 上看到的担忧之一,现在又出现了这份报道,这就证实了那可能是真的。
And Nvidia has invested in them, right? But it seems like right now, one of the big fears is credit is drying up. And if credit is drying up, and that's one of the fears that we've seen with AI Neoclouds the past week or two, and now we're getting this report, it gives confirmation that that might be true.
再说一次,目前我们不知道最终条款。我们不知道 Nvidia 的风险敞口,但市场仍然是先开枪后问话。如果这看起来可疑,我们就会在一定程度上惩罚这个行业。
Again, right now we don't know about the final terms. We don't know about the exposure Nvidia comes, but the market is still going with ask questions later. If this seems fishy, we're going to punish somewhat of the industry.
另外我想说,我们应该记住的是,Nvidia 谈过他们计划用不同方式帮助为整个 NeoCloud 市场提供资金和融资。他们有时会放贷,如果放贷,就会获得某种形式的收入分成,这对他们来说极其有利,因为在当前市场,GPU 价格持续上涨,而且他们还有其他有利的条件。
Now, another thing I would say we should kind of remember is Nvidia has talked about different ways that they are planning to help fund and finance the overall NeoCloud market. uh they're sometimes lending money and if they do lend money they will have some form of revenue sharing which is extremely positive for them in the market that right now you have GPU pricing continue to go up and they have other teams that are favorable for Nvidia.
所以如果 Nvidia 确实相信这个 AI 市场会持续下去,那么看到这种情况发生并不一定是最糟糕的事。现在,大问题,大问题是,一个460兆瓦的项目很可能要花费数百亿美元,可能200到300亿美元。
市场在问 Nvidia,也许我们会在未来的财报中听到,你到底提供了多少支持?
So if Nvidia does believe that this AI market will continue it's not necessarily the worst thing to kind of see this play out. Now, the big issue, the big issue is that a 460 megawatt project is probably going to run tens and tens of billions, potentially 20 to30 billion.
The market is asking Nvidia, and maybe we hear about this during uh future earnings, how much are you backing?
其他人可能会说,Jose,Nvidia 不是有大量自由现金流吗?他们还能拿钱做什么?说实话,我现在也不知道自己是什么立场。我很想获得更多关于最终条款的信息,从 Nvidia 那里得到更多确认,对吧?
因为这些只是未经证实的报道,但如果我们看到某种形式的收入分成,以及仍然相当有吸引力的利率数字,如果 Anthropic 也仍然在与这个合作伙伴合作,如果这是一个 Anthropic 的系统,对吧,如果最终系统是用于 Anthropic 的推理需求,我们刚刚看到了他们的 S1 数据。
Anthropic 经营得不错,对吧?至少在未来可预见的时期内,他们有能力支付这笔费用。所以,目前我并不一定看空这件事。
Some other people might say, Jose, doesn't Nvidia have tons and tons of free cash flow? What else are they going to be doing with their money? To be honest, I don't know where I'm at right now.
I would love to get more information on the final terms, get more confirmation from Nvidia, right? As these are just unconfirmed reports, but if we see form of revenue sharing and still pretty interesting numbers in forms of interest, if Entropic is still kind of going with this partner as well, if it is an anthropic system, right, if if the final system is going to be for Anthropic's inference needs, we just saw their S1 numbers.
Enthropic is doing fine, right? and they're going to have the ability to be able to pay this at least in the foreseeable future. So, not necessarily bearish on it right now.
我属于这样一派:Nvidia 手头有大量现金,只要他们不是全额出资,对吧,不是完全兜底所有事情,我就不认为这一定是最糟糕的事。
I am in the camp where Nvidia has a lot of cash at hands and as long as they're not funding it right and they're not backing everything completely, I don't think it's necessarily the worst thing.
再说一次,Nvidia 在 NScale 这里扮演着多重角色。他们是供应商。他们是投资者。他们也是客户,通过与其他 NeoCloud 厂商的兜底安排体现。而且他们过去已经为德克萨斯州一个数据中心的某些债务提供过担保,最高达8.6亿美元的租赁租金。
所以,这不会是 Nvidia 第一次为 NScale 做这种事。
Now, again, Nvidia has kind of multiple roles here with Nscale. They are the suppliers. They are an investor. They're also a customer in the form of backs stop that they do with other NeoCloud players and they have already been a guaranter for I don't even know if that's how you pronounce it, but they've also kind of guaranteed certain debt in the past for a data center in Texas up to $860 million lease rent.
So, this wouldn't be the first time Nvidia is doing this for NScale.
他们又说,我们看到他们是其投资者,他们很可能看到了市场上的需求,意思大概是,嘿,我们得确保他们能够不断扩产,因为一旦他们做到,收入就会流向他们。但我也能理解为什么看空者会反对这样的事情。
And they say again, we see that they are an investor of them and they probably see the demand that's out there that's like, hey, let's just make sure they're able to build and build because once they do, they're going to have that revenue coming into them.
But I can see why the bears would also be against something like this.
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