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$PLTR · Everything Money · 2026-10-26

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PLTR 表现卓越且盈利,但在约 195 美元/5000 亿美元市值下,其 166 倍市盈率和 150 倍自由现金流倍数已把完美增长计入价格。按大胆的十年假设,当前价格仅带来约 11% 的回报,不值得承受其波动;他要求的 15% 回报率需要 PLTR 跌至约 140 美元或更低。他对这些假设并不放心。

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本月早些时候,Palantir 创下了历史最高水平。随后,就在同一周结束时,其股价下跌了超过10%,也就是华尔街所说的回调。

Earlier this month, Palantir recorded its highest level ever. Then, by the end of that same week, its stock price had fallen by more than 10%, in what is known on Wall Street as a correction.

所以,如果你持有这只股票,你可能会想这是怎么回事。好,接下来是令人惊讶的部分。在股价上下波动的同时,公司的销售额却实现了增长。你准备好了吗?过去一年增长了93%。

So, if you own this stock, you might be wondering what's going on . Okay, here's the surprising part. While the stock price fluctuated up and down, the company achieved growth in its sales. Are you ready? 93% during the past year.

过去几周,营收增长与股价表现形成了鲜明对比。这意味着,股票和公司正朝着完全不同的方向走。随着11月2日财报公布日期的临近,压力正在加大。这是以折价买入一家快速增长公司的黄金机会,还是关于估值的警示信号?

This is a stark contrast between revenue growth and stock performance over the past few weeks. What this means is that the stock and the company are moving in completely different directions.

With the earnings announcement date of November 2nd approaching, the pressure is mounting. Is this a golden opportunity to buy a fast-growing company at a discounted price, or is it a warning sign about valuation?

Palantir 是一家软件公司,帮助大型机构和政府利用其数据和人工智能技术做出有效决策。

Palantir is a software company that helps large organizations and governments use their data and artificial intelligence technologies to make effective decisions.

2026年,她的业务经历了显著增长。但讽刺的是,股价却极其波动。10月12日,该股创下接近213美元的历史新高,随后到周五跌至每股约186美元。

In 2026, her business experienced significant growth. But the irony is that the share price was extremely volatile. On October 12, the stock hit an all-time high near $213, then fell by Friday to around $186 per share.

更奇怪的是,在整个2026年,该股仅上涨了约5%,而整个市场上涨了约12%。也就是说,这只股票今年一直波动得非常厉害。

Even more strangely, throughout 2026, the stock rose by only about 5%, while the market as a whole rose by about 12%. That is, the stock has remained remarkably volatile this year.

然而,公司的业绩却完全相反。上个季度,其年营收增长了惊人的93%。其在美国的业务,也就是向美国公司销售产品,也实现了149%的巨大增长。

However, the company's performance was the complete opposite. In the last quarter, its annual revenue grew by an astonishing 93%. Its business in the United States, i.e., selling its products to American companies, also saw tremendous growth of 149%.

其与美国政府的业务增长了90%。这是本视频中最重要的观点:股价和公司业绩并不总是朝同一个方向走。它们现在讲述的是两个完全不同的故事。

Its business with the US government grew by 90%. This is the most important idea in this video: Stock price and company performance do not always move in one direction. They are now telling two completely different stories.

那么,股价为什么下跌?各位,这是一个宝贵的教训。大部分跌幅发生在一周之内,那一周整个科技市场因对AI支出和利率的担忧而回落。所以,这不只是 Palantir 的问题。

So why did the stock price drop ? Well, guys, that's a valuable lesson. Much of the decline occurred in a week in which the entire technology market retreated due to concerns about AI spending and interest rates. So, it wasn't just about Palantir.

就在下跌之前,Goldman Sachs 将该股的评级上调至“买入”,Barclays Bank 则以265美元的目标价启动覆盖。

Just before the decline, Goldman Sachs raised its recommendation for the stock to "buy," and Barclays Bank initiated coverage with a target price of $265.

所以,各位,你有一家增长极快的公司,分析师也越来越乐观,而与此同时股价却在下跌。

So, folks, you have a company that's experiencing extremely rapid growth, and analysts are increasingly optimistic, and then the stock price drops at the same time.

那么,让我向你解释 Palantir 的基本数据有多强劲,因为它们极其罕见。Balantir 不只是增长快。它是一家非常赚钱的公司。上个季度,每赚到的一美元中有47%转化为了营业利润。

So, let me explain to you how powerful Palantir's basic figures are , because they are extremely rare. Balantir doesn't just grow fast. It is a very profitable company. In the last quarter, 47 % of every dollar earned was converted into operating profit.

它还在单个季度内产生了超过12亿美元的现金流,这是真正进入公司的现金金额。此外,公司银行账户里约有90亿美元。

It also generated cash flows exceeding $1.2 billion in a single quarter, which is the actual amount of cash entering the company. In addition, the company has approximately $9 billion in its bank account.

大多数以这种速度增长的公司都会蒙受巨额亏损,而 Palantir 却赚取了巨额利润。

Most companies that grow at this rate incur heavy losses, while Palantir makes huge profits.

但有一个数据能说明全貌:它现有客户的支出比仅仅一年前增加了57%。换句话说,任何公司一旦开始使用 Palantir,随着时间推移,它对 Palantir 的使用量都会显著增加。

But here's the statistic that paints the whole picture : its current customers spent 57% more than they did just one year ago . In other words, once any company starts using Palantir, it will increase its use of it significantly over time.

此外,已签约但尚未执行的未来业务量已经翻倍。因此,需求不只是今天强劲,明天还有大量工作等着我们。现在来看一些能体现公司实力的数字。它的“40法则”比率达到了几乎前所未有的155%。

Furthermore, the volume of future business that has been signed but not yet executed has doubled. Therefore, demand is not just strong today . There is a huge amount of work waiting for us tomorrow.

Now, here are some figures that demonstrate the strength of the company. Its "rule of forty" ratio achieved an almost unprecedented level of 155%.

这里的增长是93%,加上62%的利润率。这是 Palantir 的调整后数据,不包含支付给员工的股份。单是40%就已经算非常优秀了。而这家公司达到了155%。

Here, the growth is 93% plus a profit margin of 62%. This is Palantir's adjusted figure, which does not include the shares it pays to employees. A 40% figure alone is considered excellent. As for this company, it reached 155%.

它现在服务超过一千家客户,一年内增长约24%,而且近80%的销售额来自美国。那么,11月2日财报公布日我们应该期待什么?本季度,管理层给自己提供了指引,也就是预计营收约21.6亿美元。

但华尔街分析师的预期略高一些,约为21.8亿美元。

It now serves more than a thousand customers, an increase of approximately 24% in a year, and nearly 80% of its sales come from the United States. Okay, so what should we expect on earnings announcement day , November 2nd?

For this quarter, management provided itself with a forecast, that is, it projected revenues of approximately $2.16 billion. But Wall Street analysts are expecting slightly more , around $2.18 billion .

这个差距构成了一个典型的陷阱。如果 Palantir 公布营收21.7亿美元,从技术上说它超出了自己的预期,但仍会低于华尔街的预期。

This difference constitutes a classic trap. If Palantir reports revenue of $2.17 billion, it will technically exceed its own expectations , but will still fall short of what Wall Street anticipates.

在股票需求如此之高的情况下,这一点微小差距可能让投资者失望,并导致股价大跌。但坦白说,营收数字可能并不是最重要的因素。很多人会关注的是,管理层是否会再次上调全年预测,就像今年已经两次上调那样,把2026年的目标从约72亿美元提高到超过81亿美元。

With such high demand for the stock, this slight difference may disappoint investors and lead to a collapse in the stock price. But frankly, the revenue figure may not be the most important factor.

What many will be focusing on is whether the administration will raise its full-year forecast again, as it has done twice this year, increasing its 2026 target from about $7.2 billion to more than $8.1 billion .

这种频繁上调才是真正让投资者兴奋的地方。以下是他们的预测:把前三季度的营收加起来,大约是16.3亿美元、19.4亿美元,然后是21.6亿美元,合计57.3亿美元。因此,要达到全年81.5亿美元,最后一个季度必须产生约24.2亿美元。这将比去年同期增长约72%。

This type of frequent uplift is what really excites investors. Here are their projections: By combining the revenues of the first three quarters, approximately $1.63 billion, $1.94 billion, and then $2.16 billion, we get $5.73 billion.

Therefore, to reach $8.15 billion for the year, the last quarter must generate approximately $2.42 billion . That would represent an increase of approximately 72% compared to the same quarter last year.

因此,他们正悄然期待再次实现强劲的年终业绩,超过去年的数字。所以,11月2日真正的问题是:信心会继续上升,还是终于回落?

Therefore, they are quietly expecting to achieve another strong year-end result, surpassing last year's figures. So, the real question on November 2nd is: Will confidence continue to rise or will it finally decline?

简单提一下:管理层已经警告,由于季节性招聘,本季度利润率可能略有下降,也就是在每年这个时候招聘大量新员工。因此,这一小幅下降未必是负面信号。

Quick note: Management has already warned that profit margins may decline slightly this quarter due to seasonal hiring, which means hiring a large number of new employees at this time of year.

Therefore, this slight decrease is not necessarily a negative indicator.

所以,在11月2日,我希望你关注四件事:全年展望的任何变化、美国商业销售额增长、新签合同,以及利润率。这四件事告诉你的信息会比主要数字多得多。

Therefore, on November 2nd, I want you to watch four things: any change in the full-year outlook , US commercial sales growth , new deals signed, and profit margins. These four things will tell you much more information than the main number.

现在来看看积极的一面。为什么这家公司能取得如此显著的成功?这里只聚焦公司本身,不谈股价。Palantir 可能成为大公司内部人工智能的主要操作系统。它不只是提供一个聊天机器人,而是把人工智能直接整合进公司的实际运营和决策中。

Let's now look at the positive aspects. Why was the company able to achieve such remarkable success, focusing solely on the company itself, and not on the share price? Palantir may become the primary operating system for artificial intelligence within large companies.

It doesn't just offer a chatbot; it integrates artificial intelligence directly into the company's real-world operations and decisions.

一旦一家公司把日常运营建立在这个系统之上,放弃它就会变得极其困难且代价高昂。这是非常强的竞争优势,就像环绕城堡的护城河,保护它免受竞争对手侵袭。

Once a company bases its day-to-day operations on this system , it becomes extremely difficult and costly to abandon it. It is a very strong competitive advantage, just like the water surrounding the castle that protects it from competitors.

他们把关键组件称为 AIP 和本体,本体是一张实时数字地图,展示公司实际如何运作。

They call the key components the AIP and the ontology, which is a live digital map of how the company actually works.

其次,其商业板块正经历巨大增长,增幅达149%,而且客户在签下第一个项目后还会继续投入更多资金。第三,其在政府和国防领域的工作具有深度和互联性,由于安全与信任的重要性,竞争对手很难从它手中抢走这块业务。

Secondly , its commercial sector is experiencing tremendous growth with a jump of 149%, and customers continue to spend more money after signing their first project . Third, its work in the government and defense sectors is characterized by depth and interconnectedness, making it difficult for competitors to win it due to the importance of security and trust.

第四,公司在AI大战中保持中立。这项技术让客户可以使用任何他们想要的AI模型,同时对自己的数据保持完全控制,而这正是大型机构所渴望的。

Fourth, the company maintains its neutrality in the AI wars. This technology allows customers to use any AI model they want while maintaining complete control over their data , which is what large organizations crave.

公司最近合作开展了一个名为Regna AI的新项目,帮助客户构建自己的人工智能系统,这是一步聪明的棋,利用了主权趋势,也就是各国和公司希望对自己的数据和人工智能系统拥有完全控制的愿望。

The company recently collaborated on a new project called Regna AI to help clients build their own artificial intelligence systems, in a smart move that exploits the sovereignty trend, i.e., the desire of countries and companies to have complete control over their data and their artificial intelligence systems.

最后,它在海外仍有充足的成长空间。其国际业务的增长速度远慢于美国,如果它能破解在海外取得成功的密码,这可能代表着一个巨大的未开发机会。

Finally, it still has ample room for growth abroad. Its international business is growing much more slowly than in the United States, which could represent a huge untapped opportunity if it manages to crack the code to success abroad.

然而,破解这个密码需要信任,因为许多国际公司和国家对Palantir在美国的存在感到担忧,认为这构成利益冲突,而这可能成为他们反对论据的一部分。

However, this code requires trust, because many international companies and countries are concerned that Palantir’s presence in the United States represents a conflict of interest, and this may form part of their negative arguments.

首先,竞争远比人们想象的激烈,实际上非常巨大。Microsoft、Amazon、Google等公司都提供各自构建数据和人工智能工具的方式。

Firstly, the competition is much fiercer than people imagine; it is actually enormous. Companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and others all offer their own ways of building data and artificial intelligence tools.

一些大公司干脆决定在内部自建系统。其次,Palantir的成功在于派遣其出色的工程师直接与客户合作,也就是说他们实际上在客户的业务环境中工作。这能取得惊人的成果,但很难规模化,也就是说,由于可用的优秀工程师数量有限,快速增长很困难。

Some large companies have simply decided to build their own systems internally. Secondly, Palantir’s success lies in sending its outstanding engineers to work directly with customers, meaning they actually work within their business environment.

This achieves amazing results, but it is very difficult to scale up , i.e., rapid growth is difficult due to the limited number of talented engineers available.

这与软件面临的挑战完全不同,软件可以简单地一遍又一遍地复制和分发。

This is a completely different challenge from software, which can simply be copied and distributed again and again.

第三,其80%的收入来自美国。因此,美国政府或企业支出的任何放缓都会严重影响它,尽管这很可能只是暂时的。但关键在于,为了证明这些非常高的估值合理,人们可能没有考虑到这种放缓的可能性。来自世界其他地区并没有很大的安全边际。

Third, 80% of its revenue comes from the United States . Therefore , any slowdown in US government or business spending will severely affect it, although it will most likely be temporary .

But the point is that in order to justify these very high ratings, people may not be taking into account the possibility of this slowdown. There is no great margin of safety from the rest of the world.

第四,大型政府合同总是伴随着风险。预算会变化,交易会被推迟或取消,事情会因政治而变得复杂,更不用说程序推进缓慢了。

Fourth, large government contracts always involve risks. Budgets change, deals are delayed or canceled, and things get complicated by politics , not to mention the slow pace of procedures.

最近的一个例子是,英国政府正在考虑在一些敏感工作中用其他方案替代Palantir。第五,几乎可以肯定,现有客户令人惊叹的57%额外支出不会永远保持在高位。随着账户规模扩大,要继续以同样快的速度扩张会变得困难。

A recent example of this is that the British government is considering alternatives to Palantir for some sensitive work. Fifth, it is almost certain that the astonishing 57% additional spending from current customers will not remain high forever.

As the size of the accounts grows, it becomes difficult to continue expanding them at the same rapid pace.

首先,应当警惕Palantir那些巨额交易的标题数字。公司自己表示,这些数字假设客户续订订阅且不取消。因此,大量的订单并不一定意味着有保障的未来收入。

First, one should be wary of Palantir's mega-dealing headline. The company itself says that these figures assume customers renew their subscriptions and do not cancel them. Therefore, a large number of bookings does not necessarily mean guaranteed future revenue.

其次,Palantir向员工支付大量股票,仅上个季度就超过2.6亿美元。尽管这一比例相对于收入在下降,但它对股东来说是一项真实成本,而许多人并未意识到。

Secondly, Palantir pays its employees a large amount of stock, exceeding $260 million in the last quarter alone. Although this percentage decreases from revenues, it represents a real cost to shareholders that many are unaware of.

因此,我们必须始终关注其背后的真实利润,也就是扣除股权激励后的现金流。另一个有趣的点是,上个季度报告的利润中有一小部分来自其对SpaceX投资的一次性收益。这是好事,但它不是经常性的投资收益,所以我们不能依赖它。

Therefore, we must always look at the real profit behind it , i.e., the cash flow after deducting equity-based compensation. Another interesting point is that a small portion of the profit reported in the last quarter came from a one-time gain from its investment in SpaceX.

This is good, but it is not a recurring investment gain, so we cannot rely on it.

反过来也一样。如果SpaceX投资的价值突然下跌,那也没有理由惩罚这家公司。因此,我们不会给公司超出其应得的收益,也不会因为其某项投资价值暂时下降就反应过度。

The same applies to the other side. If the value of SpaceX's investment suddenly drops , that is no reason to punish the company. Therefore, we will not give the company more gains than it deserves, and we will not overreact if there is a temporary decrease in the value of one of its investments.

你可能在新闻头条上看到过,CEO Alex Karp 在8月卖出了约8600万美元的股票。听起来很吓人,对吧?但仔细一看就会发现,这次卖出是为了支付根据预先安排的常规计划授予他的股票所产生的税款。

所以,这并不是 Karp 在财报发布前的恐慌性抛售,而只是一种常规的、程序化的高管激励方式。

You may have seen in the headlines that CEO Alex Karp sold approximately $86 million worth of shares in August. It sounds scary, does n't it? But upon closer examination, we find that the sale was to cover taxes on shares granted to him under a pre-scheduled routine plan .

So, this was not a pre-earnings panic sell-off by Karp , but simply a routine, procedural way of rewarding executives.

所以,这才是真正的争论所在。毫无疑问,Palantir 是一家卓越的公司。它的增长、利润和现金流都是顶尖水平。整个问题都围绕一点:价格与价值。

So, this is the real debate. There is no doubt that Palantir is an exceptional company. Its growth, profits, and cash flow are top-notch. The whole question revolves around one point: price versus value.

即便经历了这次10%的下跌,Palantir 仍然是市场上最贵的股票之一,这意味着你必须付出巨额资金,才能换来每一美元的额外利润。

Even after this 10% drop, Palantir remains one of the most expensive stocks on the market, meaning you have to spend huge sums to earn every extra dollar in profit.

如今,投资者正在为多年来尚未兑现、而且据称应当毫无阻碍地实现的惊人增长付出沉重代价。这种情况以前什么时候发生过?这就是危险所在。

Today, investors are paying a heavy price for years of spectacular growth that has yet to materialize, and which is supposed to happen without any obstacles or impediments. When did that happen before? This is the danger.

当一只股票的定价建立在完美之上,也就是价格假设一切都进展顺利时,即便业绩很好,只要不是绝对完美,也可能令人失望。

When a stock is priced on the basis of perfection, meaning the price assumes that everything is going well, even great earnings may disappoint if they are not absolutely perfect.

所以,问题不是:Palantir 是不是一家伟大的公司?问题是:在这个价格上,它是不是一笔伟大的投资?这是两个完全不同的问题。以非常高的价格买入一家伟大的公司,结果可能是一笔失败的投资。这就是价值投资的核心。

So, the question is not: Is Palantir a great company? The question is: Is it a great investment at this price? These are two completely different questions. A great company bought at a very high price may turn out to be a failed investment. This is the essence of value-based investing.

我们来看看数字。这是 Palantir,它的股价已经涨到195。记住,这不是公司的价格,而是它5000亿美元的市值。这意味着,如果你按市价买下全部流通股,理论上如果可能的话,你要付出5000亿美元才能全部拥有它们。

Let's take a look at the numbers. This is Palantir, and its stock price has risen to 195. Remember, this is not the company's price, but its market capitalization of $500 billion.

This means that if you bought all the outstanding shares at market price, you would pay $500 billion to own them all, if that were theoretically possible.

下一步是看这家机构的实际价值。一家公司的价值低于其市值,这种情况很少见,这意味着它的现金多于债务。这是一张非常出色的资产负债表。一家现金多于债务的公司很难破产。

The next step is to look at the value of the organization. It is rare for a company to be worth less than its market value, which means they have more cash than debt. This is an excellent balance sheet.

It is very difficult for a company that has more cash than debt to go bankrupt.

现在看看资本回报率提高了多少。5年的平均回报率是8%,而一年的平均回报率是33%。这更像是一个质量指标,而不是数量指标;它表明公司的质量,以及它用投入资金创造良好回报的能力,这对公司来说是一个极好的指标。

Now, look at how much the return on capital has increased. The average return over 5 years was 8%, while the average return over one year was 33%. This is more of a quality indicator than a quantitative one; it indicates the quality of the company and its ability to generate good returns on invested funds , and this is an excellent indicator for the company.

5年的利润率是22.7%,而一年的利润率是49%。我并不担心这一点;这是一家相对较新的公司,才刚刚开始盈利。

The profit margin over 5 years is 22.7%, while it is 49% over one year. I'm not worried about that; it's a relatively new company that has just become profitable.

最让我担心的是150倍的市价与自由现金流比率,以及166倍的市盈率。确实,如果公司能大幅提高盈利,那么情况可能会不错。但各位,如果我们回顾历史,以这种估值水平卖出的公司最终成为一笔伟大投资的情况非常罕见,除非我们正处于一轮强劲的牛市中,而且公司自身也在改善。除此之外,这极其困难。

What worries me most is the price-to-free cash flow ratio of 150, and the price-to-earnings ratio of 166. True, if the company can significantly increase its earnings, then the situation may be good.

But folks, if we look at history, it's very rare for a company that sells at these rates to turn out to be a great investment, unless we're in the midst of a strong bull market where the company is also improving. Apart from that, it is extremely difficult.

好,我们来看看,顺便说一下,我们社区的成员正在投资这家公司。我们来回顾一下它过去八个季度的表现。许多股票的价格上涨了25%。但你期待什么呢?公司的业绩比五年前好得多。股票确实上涨了25%,但我理解这种观点:“这只股票很贵。

我们把它分配给投资者、换取流动性吧,因为公司现在的状况好多了。”我理解这一点。

Okay, let's take a look, and by the way, members of our community are investing in this company. Let's review its performance over the past eight quarters. The prices of many stocks rose by 25%.

But what do you expect? The company's performance is much better than it was five years ago. It is true that the shares rose by 25 %, but I understand the viewpoint that says: "The stock is expensive.

Let's distribute it to investors and get liquidity, as the company is in a much better position." I understand that.

其次,不必担心资本回报率,因为它是按五年计算的,而第一年的回报率显然是惊人的33%。当然,我们还有市盈率和五年自由现金流比率。即便回报只覆盖一年,它仍然是一个指标。问题是:公司能否在股价下跌之前达到这个价值?

Secondly, there is no need to worry about the return on capital because it is calculated over five years, and the first year's return is clearly an amazing 33%. And of course, we have the price-to- earnings (PE) ratio and the five-year free cash flow ratio.

Even if the return is over only one year, it remains an indicator. The question is: Will the company reach this value before the share price drops?

最重要的是,这份文件包含了对 Palantir 的完整分析,而这正是我们在这里做的事情。

Most importantly, this document contains a complete analysis of Palantir, which is precisely what we are doing here.

如果你认真对待 Palantir 和投资,我强烈建议你从下方链接下载这份 PDF 文件。看看这个:今年每股收益1.60美元,预计未来四年将增长到14.38美元。确实,分析师人数不多,但这是巨大的增长。

I highly recommend downloading the PDF file from the link below if you are serious about Palantir and investing. Look at this: Earning $1.60 per share this year , and expected to grow to $14.38 over the next four years.

It is true that the number of analysts is not large, but this is tremendous growth.

看看这个:按14.38美元计算,如果我们给这家公司22倍的市盈率,那就是300美元的股价。目前股价是195美元。这意味着四年内上涨超过50%。对一些人来说,这可能显得无聊,因为年化只有12%。

但话说回来,这家公司建立在许多假设之上,而这些假设在确定当前股价时可能已经被考虑进去了。

Look at this: at $14.38, if we apply a price-to- earnings ratio of 22 to this company, we are talking about a share price of $300. The share price is currently $195. This is an increase of over 50% within four years.

This may seem boring to some because it represents only 12% annually. But again, there are many assumptions that this company was built on and that may have been taken into account when determining the current share price.

现在我们来看营收增长。82亿美元将增长到700亿美元。这意味着未来四年增长8.5倍。营收增长分别为88%、50%、46%、85%和100%。天哪!这太疯狂了!从任何意义上说都疯狂。

Now we move on to revenue growth. $8.2 billion will grow to $70 billion. This means an 8.5-fold increase over the next four years . Revenue growth of 88%, 50% , 46%, 85%, and 100%.

Oh, my God! This is madness! Insane in every sense of the word.

现在,我有些保留意见,因为公司目前的市值是5000亿美元。软件公司的营收增长通常是7到10倍。如果公司实现700亿美元的营收,即便我们假设它增长了12倍,其市值也会是8400亿到8800亿美元。

我只是把这个数字乘以12倍而已。各位,目前市值是5000亿美元。所以,还有增长空间,但不是大家所期待的那种每年30%、40%或50%的增长。你必须记住这一点。

Now, I have some reservations, as the company's market value is currently $500 billion. Software companies typically experience revenue growth of 7 to 10 times. If the company generates $70 billion in revenue, and even if we assume it has grown 12 times, its market value would be $840-880 billion .

All I did was apply a multiplier of 12 times to this number. Guys , the current market value is $500 billion. So, there is still room for growth, but not at 30%, 40%, or 50% per year as everyone expects. You must remember that.

好了各位,现在我们面前是一位来自 Palantir 的股票分析师。我们坐下来,确定未来十年我们将采用的假设,以及它们对我们来说价值多少。我将进行未来十年的分析。首先是增长率:25%、35% 和 50%。

各位,你们把比率提高到了比我个人预期更高的水平。你们可能会说:“Paul,这太低了。”各位,这是 35% 的营收增长。公司总营收将在未来十年达到 1600 亿美元。它目前的营收是 80 亿美元。

这是营收的 20 倍。这不是一个简单的数字。我对这个数字并不安心,但我想把它作为一个例子在这里展示出来。

Okay guys, here we are now in front of a stock analyst from Palantir. Here we sit and define the assumptions we will adopt for the next ten years, and what their value is to us.

I will conduct my analysis for the next ten years. First, the growth rate. 25%, 35%, and 50% . Guys, you've raised the ratio to a higher level than I personally expected. You might say, "Paul, that's low."

Guys, that's a 35% increase in revenue. The company's total revenue will reach $160 billion in the next ten years. Its current revenue is $8 billion. That's 20 times the revenue.

This is not a simple number. I am not comfortable with this , but I want to present it here as an example.

第二,利润率。我确定了 40%、47.5% 和 55%。各位,我对这些比率感到安心。我认为即使销售放缓,他们也能维持利润率。基于平均假设,我可能会把它稍微调低一点,但我会把较高的假设保持在 55。我把平均值下调到了 45。

Second, the profit margin. I have identified 40%, 47.5%, and 55%. Guys, I'm comfortable with these ratios. I think that even if sales slow down, they will be able to maintain their profit margin.

I might lower it a little based on the average assumption, but I'll keep the higher assumption at 55. I lowered the average to 45.

那么,十年后我会给这家公司多少市盈率?各位,这是关于股票分析师我被问得最多的问题。Paul,合适的市盈率是多少?不要看公司的历史。你需要看的是标普 500 指数的历史。标普 500 指数在很长一段时间内的平均值是 15 到 17。

你的下一个问题应该是:这家公司比标普 500 指数中的平均公司更好吗?嗯,它有非常高的利润率、强大的竞争优势,以及不断提高的非常高的资本回报率。所以对我来说,这是一家质量更好的公司。

好多少呢?我没有用 15 到 17,而是填了 18、22 和 26。

Now, what price-to-earnings ratio would I assign to this company after 10 years? Guys, this is the most common question I get asked about stock analysts. Paul, what is a suitable price-to-earnings ratio?

Don't look at the company's history. What you need to look at is the history of the Standard & Poor's 500 index. The Standard & Poor's 500 index has averaged 15 to 17 over a long period of time.

Your next question should be: Is this company better than the average company in the Standard & Poor's 500 index? Well, it has very high profit margins, a strong competitive advantage, and very high capital returns that are constantly improving.

So, for me, this is a better quality company. How much better is it? Instead of 15 to 17, I put 18, 22 and 26.

记住,各位,公司的大部分增长将发生在十年期末。所以,如果你对我说:“嗯,Paul,增长会非常巨大”,但在十年期末,你需要看得更远。十年后,这家公司合适的市盈率是多少?我可以说它低于 22,但我在这里保留了 22。

Remember, guys, most of the company's growth will happen at the end of ten years. So, if you say to me, "Well, Paul, the growth will be tremendous," but at the end of ten years, you need to look beyond that.

Ten years from now, what is a suitable price-to-earnings ratio for the company? I could say it's less than 22, but I kept 22 here.

预期回报是多少?各位,在我们所有的视频中,我通常设定 9.5% 的回报率。这不是我真正想要的回报,而是我放进这些视频里用来展示内在价值的回报。公司今天的价值是多少?这不是我想支付的价格,也不是我愿意为它支付的价格。

因为记住,你需要安全边际。我强烈建议大家输入一个高于 9.5% 的数字。

What is the expected return? Guys, in all our videos, I usually set a return of 9.5% . This is not the return I actually want, but rather the return I put into these videos to show the intrinsic value.

What is the company's value today? It's not the price I want to pay, nor the price I would pay for it. Because, remember, you need a safety margin. I strongly encourage you all to enter a number higher than 9.5%.

现在,各位,你们刚刚看到我用 Palantir 的数字,输入我自己的假设,并看到我在今天的价格下会得到的回报。这只需要几分钟,而我把其中一半时间花在向你们解释上。

Now, folks, you just saw me using Palantir's numbers, entering my own assumptions, and seeing the return I would get at today's price. It only took a few minutes, and I spent half of that time explaining things to you.

但让我问你们一个问题。11 月 2 日,Palantir 将公布业绩。预期可能会变,增长率可能会变。这样一只股票可能一夜之间上涨 10% 或 20%。如果发生这种情况——而它不可避免地会发生——你能做到我刚才做的事吗?

你能输入新的数字,并在几分钟内弄清楚这个价格是否仍然合理,或者你是否甚至应该把时间投入到这家公司上吗?还是你会一直困在读标题和猜测之中?

But let me ask you a question. On November 2nd, Palantir will announce its results. Expectations may change , and the growth rate may change. A stock like this could rise by 10 or 20% in one night.

If that happens, which it inevitably will, can you do what I just did? Can you enter the new figures and find out within minutes whether the price still makes sense or not, or whether you should even invest your time in the company?

Or will you remain stuck reading headlines and guessing?

投机一只股票,尤其是像这样一只令人兴奋且昂贵的股票,可能代价高昂,而且来得很快。假设你持有 10,000 美元的 Palantir 股票。如果你支付了高昂的价格,而股价跌到其内在价值,也就是下跌 30%,你就会这样损失 3,000 美元。

Speculating on a stock, especially an exciting and expensive one like this, can be very costly and quickly. Let's assume you have $10,000 in Palantir stock. If you pay a hefty sum, and the stock price drops to its intrinsic value, i.e., by 30%, you will lose $3,000 just like that.

那么,如果你不知道正确的价格,你会失去什么?如果一只股票的价格下跌,成为一个黄金投资机会,但你仍然忙于新闻,没有意识到这是一个不容错过的机会,那会怎样?如果你不买这只股票,你会失去什么?

So, what do you have to lose if you don't know the right price? What if the price of a stock drops and becomes a golden investment opportunity , but you are still preoccupied with the news and do not realize that it is an opportunity not to be missed? What will you lose if you don't buy this stock?

这正是我们开发股票分析工具的原因。我们设计它不是用来批评公司,而是用来理解价格与价值之间的关系。这就是我已经使用了超过 4,100 次的工具,也是我现在正在使用的工具。只需输入你的假设,比如营收增长、利润率、市盈率和期望回报,工具就会告诉你你在今天的价格下会得到的回报,以及要达到该回报你必须支付的价格。

That is precisely why we developed the stock analysis tool. We did not design it to criticize companies, but to understand the relationship between price and value. This is the tool that I have used more than 4,100 times, and it is the one I am using now.

Simply enter your assumptions, such as revenue growth, profit margin, price-to-earnings ratio , and desired return, and the tool will tell you the return you will get at today's price , and the price you have to pay to achieve that return.

现在,各位,我要在这里做两个分析。我会分析 9.5% 的回报,然后我会分析我个人的回报。基于 9.5% 的比率和我认为较高的假设,我设定了较低价格 82、较高价格 875,以及平均价格 225。

Now, guys, I'm going to do two analyses here. I will analyze a return of 9.5%, and then I will analyze my personal return. Based on the 9.5% ratio and what I considered to be high assumptions, I set a lower price of 82, a higher price of 875, and an average price of 225.

现在,在大家因为我听到背景中有赞叹的低语而兴奋之前,请记住,我做出的假设是我认为大胆的假设,而且这没有考虑股权激励带来的任何额外稀释。因此,我假设流通股数量保持不变。回报将保持在 11%。

各位,对我来说,对于一家有这种波动性的公司,这真的值得吗?如果你支付今天的价格,而我的平均假设是正确的,你将得到大约 11%。

Now, before everyone gets excited because I heard murmurs of admiration in the background, remember that I made assumptions that I considered to be bold, and this does not take into account any additional dilution resulting from equity compensation.

Therefore, I assume the number of outstanding shares will remain the same. The return will remain 11%. Guys, for me, for a company with this kind of volatility, does this really make it worthwhile?

If you pay today's price and my average assumptions are correct, you will get about 11%.

正如 Tim 刚才打断我时说的:“Paul,这是我很久以来第一次看到 Palantir 的股票涨到低于平均水平。”我想提醒大家,我们不知道未来。如果有人突然得知 Palantir 将在未来十年每年利润翻倍,这就是你很久以来会看到的 Palantir 股票最便宜的价格。

抓住机会。我不建议你这么做,但这就是我做出的假设。如果他们告诉你:“Paul,他们的营收和利润在未来二十年都不会增长”,你会支付那个价格吗?当然不会。这就是基本思路。问题在于做出合乎逻辑的假设。

As Tim just interrupted me, he said, "Paul, this is the first time I've seen Palantir's stock rise below average in a long time." And I would like to remind everyone that we do not know the future.

If someone suddenly learned that Palantir would double its profits annually over the next ten years, this is the cheapest price you'll see for Palantir stock in a long time. Seize the opportunity.

I don't advise you to do that, but that's the assumption I'm making . If they told you, "Paul, their revenues and profits won't increase over the next twenty years," would you pay that price?

Of course not. This is the basic idea. The issue is about making logical assumptions.

你可能觉得我很保守,也许我确实如此。我会错过一些有前景的投资机会。但人们也不记得那些我说过“这些说不通”的股票,它们后来价值跌到几乎为零。所以,是的,你可能会找到产生巨大利润的股票,这些股票可能值得考虑。最好是太多股票的价值不要跌到零。

You might think I'm very reserved , and maybe I am. I will miss out on promising investment opportunities. But people also don't remember those stocks that I said, "These don't make sense," which have since dropped in value to almost zero.

So, yes , you may find stocks that generate huge profits, and these stocks may be worth considering. It's best if the value of too many stocks doesn't drop to zero.

至于我,我个人的回报要求是 15%。各位,在这一点上不要照搬我。我在财务上非常幸运。我拥有一千套公寓,还有几家公司。我不需要赚取巨额利润。我依靠中等成本美元策略,搭配像 SCHD 这样的低成本交易所交易基金,并把一部分钱投资于个股。

因此,为了买入一只股票,我想要 15% 的回报。基于这些假设,我需要看到 Palantir 的股价在 140 美元左右或更低。坦率地说,我对这些假设并不安心。所以,你可能觉得我保守,但这就是我的立场。

As for me, my personal return requirement is 15%. Guys , don't copy me on this. I am very lucky financially. I own a thousand apartments, and I have several companies. I don't need to make huge profits.

I rely on a mid-cost dollar strategy with low-cost exchange-traded funds like SCHD , and I invest a portion of my money in individual stocks. Therefore, in order to buy a stock, I want a return of 15%.

Based on these assumptions, I need to see Palantir's stock price around $140 or less. Frankly, I am not comfortable with these assumptions. So, you may see me as reserved, but that is my position.

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