$SHOP · The Motley Fool · 2026-11-03
Shopify 本季度表现非常稳健(营收 +32%、营业利润 +66%、自由现金流利润率 22%),但 GMV 和订阅业务略有不及预期,导致股价下跌约 7%,这是 80 倍预期市盈率下的估值问题,而非业务问题;代理式购物仍在推进中。一位小组成员更看好它而非另一家财报公司,但认为两者都不太有吸引力,并认为未来五年可能持续走平;另一位愿意在当前价格加仓,寄望下季度加速。
逐段跳播
广告之后,我们将深入探讨Shopify和Palanteer的财报。我们直接回到财报周。我们有Shopify和Palunteer。各位,市场对今天的结果并不太买账。就在我们录制的时候,Shopify的股价下跌了约7%。
Coming up after the break, we're going to dive into Shopify and Palanteer's earnings. Diving right back into earnings weeks. We have Shopify and Palunteer. And the guys, the market was not huge on the results today.
As we're taping right now, Shopify's uh shares are down about 7%.
我相信Shopify实际上并没有完全达到销售指引。
Uh, I believe shop Shopify actually didn't quite meet sales guidance
但当你像Palanteer那样以110倍远期市盈率交易,或者像Shopify那样仅以80倍预期市盈率交易时,正如那句老话所说,你已经被定价为完美。任何不完美都会让你受伤。
But when you're Palanteer and you're trading at 110 times forward earnings or with Shopify trading at only 80 times expected earnings, you are, as the cliche goes, priced for perfection.
And anything short of perfection gets you stung.
是啊,我们可以说这是光速而不是极速,我认为这也说明了我们正在谈论的Shopify的情况,因为,还是那句话,在真空中看数字相当不错。略低于预期,但市场似乎不喜欢,因为,还是那句话,市场期待的是极速。
>> Yeah, we could call it it was light speed instead of ludicrous speed, which I think kind of talks to what we're talking about with with Shopify, too, because again, pretty good numbers in a vacuum. slightly lower than expectations, but the market didn't seem to like it because again, the market is anticipating ludicrous speed.
Matt,你在报告中看到了什么,可能让你改变了想法,或者让你明白为什么Shopify的情况不那么乐观,至少在这份最新的财报中?
What did you see in the in the report, Matt, that may have like sort of changed your mind or saw why things are not quite as rosy at Shopify, at least on this most recent earnings report?
是的,正如Lou所说,Shopify在发布这份报告前已被定价为接近完美。我确实认为这有点膝跳反应。正如你提到的,它在盘前跌得更惨。看起来市场正在恢复理智,认识到这只股票并不比昨天低15%。
>> Yeah, as Lou said, Shopify was priced for near perfection going into this report. I do think it was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. As you mentioned, it was down way worse in the pre-market.
It seems like the market's kind of coming to its senses that the stock is not worth 15% less than it was yesterday.
数字总体上看起来很棒。就像Palanteer一样,营收同比增长32%。商家解决方案营收增长35%,营业收入同比增长66%。这些数字可以证明80倍市盈率或类似倍数的合理性。
Uh the the numbers generally looked great. Uh just like Palanteer, uh revenue was up 32% year-over-year. Uh merchant solutions revenue was up 35%, operating income up 66% year-over-year.
Those are numbers that can justify trading for 80 times earnings or or or something similar to that.
自由现金流利润率同比上升了4个百分点,达到22%。对于像这样仍在快速增长的科技大公司来说,Shopify 回购股票的力度相当激进。仅本季度回购金额就超过5亿美元。
Uh, I mean, free cash flow margin was up four percentage points from a year ago to 22%. Uh, Shopify's buying back shares fairly aggressively for a large tech company like that that's still growing rapidly.
Over half a billion in buybacks in this quarter alone.
有两处小幅不及预期,而且幅度非常轻微。一处是 GMV,也就是商品交易总额,即通过 Shopify 平台完成的总销售额。这一项只是略低于预期。它较第二季度有所减速。减速本身是预期之中的。
不及预期的并不是订阅收入,也就是 Shopify 向商家销售的月度订阅方案,那项只是略低于预期,属于小幅不及预期,与指引相比大约低了1%。
There were two small misses uh and and very slight. One was on GMV, which is gross merchandise volume, total sales through Shopify's platform. That came in just slightly below expectations.
It decelerated from the second quarter. The deceleration was expected. the the miss was not subscription revenue which is you know uh the the monthly ser the monthly subscription plans that Shopify sells to merchants uh that came in just short of expectations small misses missed by you know up roughly 1% on on both uh compared to guidance
股价在盘前大跌了15%,正如我们所说,开盘后它又涨回来了,但它的定价大致是按接近完美来定的,我不想说完美,但这是估值问题,不是业务问题。市场似乎正在对其中一些公司重新估值,尽管它们公布了非常出色的季度业绩,因为这些季度业绩并不像你说的那样处于“狂暴模式”。
所以,这确实是一个非常非常扎实的季度,但不是市场想要的那种。
and the stock tanked by 15% in pre-market and as we said it came back uh when the market opened but it was roughly priced for you know near perfection I don't want to say perfection uh but it's it's a valuation problem, not a a business problem.
And the market is seeming to rerate some of these companies after posting excellent quarters because the quarters were not, as you say, ludicrous mode. So, it it it was a very very solid quarter, but not what the market wanted.
前几次我们做 Shopify 的财报,并在非财报周期里讨论它们时,谈的很多都是代理式购物,或者说代理购物。这方面有没有什么实质性的更新,还是说仍然只是理论层面的,我们还没真正搞清楚如何大规模部署?
>> Now, the last couple times Shopify has been we've done their earnings reports and we talked about them in the off earning cycle, it's been a lot about agentic shopping or a agentic agent shopping.
Um, was there any real update in that regard or is it still just kind of a a a theoretical we haven't quite figured out how to really deploy this in scale yet?
对以上这些,答案都是肯定的。Harvey Flestein 说,Shopify 正在把商业构建到每一个界面、每一个代理,而且越来越多地构建到所有地方。这意味着我们仍在推进 AI 战略。
AI 购物需要有人来处理结账和支付。不只是自动化购物,而是说,当你在 Claude 或 ChatGPT 里搜索要买的东西时,需要有一种无缝的方式来完成结账和支付。所以他们确实在努力把自己的平台嵌入到所有地方。
这仍然是一项进行中的工作,就像目前几乎所有其他电商工具一样。但管理层对此听起来很兴奋。
>> Yes and yes to all of that. Uh, I mean Harvey Flestein says Shopify is building commerce, here's his quote, into every surface, every agent, and increasingly everywhere. Which means we're still working on the AI strategy.
I mean, AI shopping needs someone to handle checking in payouts. Not just automated shopping, but just, you know, when you're searching in in Claude or ChatgPT for a purchase, there needs to be a seamless way to check out and and pay for that.
So, they're they're really trying to insert their their platform everywhere. It's still very much a work in progress like it is with pretty much every other e-commerce tool at this point. Uh, but management sounds excited about it.
在我们收尾之前,我要给你们每人大约10秒钟来回答这个问题。我们手上有 Shopify,还有 Palunteer,都是刚出完财报。这两者之中,哪一个现在作为投资看起来更有吸引力?
>> As we kind of finish up here, I'm going to give you each like a 10second response to this. So, we've got Shopify, we've got Palunteer, uh, off the earnings. Of the two of them, which one actually looks more attractive as an investment right now?
我大概率会选 Shopify,但我觉得这两者都没有特别大的吸引力。我会说 Shopify 已经五年原地踏步了。我知道其中有疫情的影响,但哇,它确实已经有一阵子毫无起色了。我认为这种情况可能会持续。
>> I'd probably go Shopify, but I don't find either really hugely um, attractive. I'll say Shopify gone nowhere for 5 years. I know there's a pandemic effect there, but wow, it's it's really been just nothing for a while. I think that could continue.
它先是大跌,然后又涨回来了。所以并不是一条直线。所以,这两者之中我持有 Shopify。所以它是我今天会加仓的那一个,尤其是如果当前价格能维持住的话。也许,希望它们能在接下来的季度里把速度提到“狂暴模式”。
Well, it it it tanked and then came back. So there there was it wasn't a straight path. So I I Shopify I own out of the two. Um so that's the one I would add to today, especially if these current prices hold.
Maybe hopefully they'll be able to kick it into ludicrous speed when in the upcoming quarter.
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