$SOFI · The Motley Fool · 2026-10-27
SoFi 第三季度上调了全年指引,并首次给出 2027 年指引(每股收益 90 美分、增长 48%、营收增长 27%),超出预期;但交叉销售表现疲弱,每名会员仅 1.56 个产品,而社区银行为 2.3 至 3 个,次级贷款带来额外风险,科技平台营收下降 24%。按约 18 倍 2027 年盈利计算,合理的 20 至 25 倍对应 18 至 22 美元;应等待交叉销售得到验证。
逐段跳播
SoFi 正在起飞,我们会聊一聊 Sofa,但正如我一开始说的,我们会先从 Sofa 开始,因为就在我们录制的时候,它的股价上涨了约16%,这反映了他们最近一个季度的财报表现。
SoFi is flying, We'll talk about Sofa, But as I said at the beginning , we'll start with Sofa because right now as we're recording, the share price is up about 16%, which is a reflection of their recent quarterly earnings.
Matt,这是一家你经常跟踪的公司。我想我们已经讨论过好几次了,而且对于这家公司到底做得好不好,当时存在一些分歧。是的,我会谈谈2027年的预测。
Matt, this is a company you follow regularly. I think we discussed this several times , and there was some disagreement about whether the company was doing well or not. Yes, I will talk about the 2027 forecast.
我想带你回到第二季度财报发布的那段时间,当时他们的股价下跌了,尽管业绩超出了预期。这是因为他们第二季度的数据不错,但没有上调全年剩余时间的指引,这意味着下半年不会太好。
I want to take you back to the second quarter report period, when their stock fell, even though they beat expectations. This was because they did well on their second quarter numbers but did not raise guidance for the rest of the year, which meant the second half of the year would not be very good.
在第三季度,我们不仅看到全年指引上调,预示着第四季度会更好,而且公司还首次给出了2027年的指引,远好于市场预期。他们预计每股收益为90美分。按照他们目前的指引,这相当于每年增长48%。
营收增长27%,利润率非常出色,而且利润率预计还会进一步提高。
In the third quarter, we not only saw full- year guidance increase, signaling a better fourth quarter, but the company also provided 2027 guidance for the first time, which was much better than market expectations.
They are expecting earnings of 90 cents per share. According to their current guidance, this is 48% growth per year. 27% revenue growth, excellent margins, and margins are expected to improve further.
我想说业务做得不错,市场似乎也认同。在我们录制的时候,它上涨了约15%。尽管今年到目前为止它仍然略有下跌。我在看的是交叉销售。而交叉销售的状况非常糟糕。他们每位会员的平均产品数量是1.56个。
一年前是1.47个。公司把这称为 mobility。普通的社区银行会说这非常令人失望。平均而言,一家社区银行每位客户有2.3到3个产品。
I would say business is doing well , and the market seems to agree. When we are recording, it is about 15% up. Although it is still slightly down for the year. The thing I'm looking at is cross-sell.
And the condition of cross-sell is very deplorable. Their average number of products per member is 1.56. A year ago it was 1.47. The company calls it mobility. Ordinary community banks say this is very disappointing.
On average, a community bank has 2.3 to 3 products per customer.
你看,如果乐观地看,你可以把这当作一个机会。如果你开始向这些客户交叉销售,你就能增长。杯子空的那部分是,他们还没有做到这一点,他们在用亏损率来吸引新客户,但还无法进行交叉销售,这是他们需要努力改进的地方。
Look, if you look at it optimistically, you can take this as an opportunity. If you start cross-selling to these customers , you can grow. The empty part of the glass is that they haven't done that yet and they are using loss rates to attract new customers, but they are not yet able to do cross-selling, which is something they need to work on to improve.
我认为可以说,市场对如何处理 SoFi 有点犹豫。我真的不太知道该怎么评价它。你知道,一方面它是一家快速增长的金融科技公司,另一方面它听起来很像一家银行。它听起来像银行,拍起翅膀来也像银行,但它不是银行,对吧?
这是一家金融科技公司。所以它处在一个奇怪的位置,营收增长非常快,但利润率在某些领域开始下降。
I think it's fair to say that the market is a bit hesitant about what to do with SoFi. I do n't really know how to evaluate it. You know, on one hand it's fast- growing fintech, on the other hand it sounds a lot like a bank.
It sounds like a bank, flaps its wings like a bank, but it's not a bank, right ? This is a fintech. So it's in a strange position , revenue is growing very quickly, but margins are starting to decline in certain areas.
你的个人贷款和学生贷款比你的按揭贷款更集中。这里牵扯到很多不同的方向。你看,在利润率下降这个问题上我有点不同意。个人贷款通常是比按揭贷款利润率更高的产品。他们在金融服务板块的贡献利润率下降了。
我很确定这就是你技术上所说的。这在很大程度上是由于廉价产品的组合,这些产品纯粹是为了吸引客户参与而设计的。想想他们正在推向市场的加密工具。这些工具赚不了多少钱,但它们是留住客户参与度的工具。
Your personal debt and student loans are more concentrated than your mortgage. It's pulling in many different directions here. Look, I disagree a bit on the issue of margin reduction.
Personal loans are generally higher margin products than mortgages. Their contribution margins in the financial services segment have declined. I'm pretty sure that's what you're technically talking about.
This is largely due to the mix of cheap products, which are designed solely to engage customers. Think about the crypto tools they are bringing to the market. These do n't make a lot of money, but they are tools to keep customers engaged.
说到净利润率,也就是净利润,按 GAAP 盈利计算,他们的 GAAP 净利润率去年从14%上升到17%。他们的收费型收入,比如他们新的会员计划,是业务中高利润率的部分,并且一直保持着21%的增长。所以,利润率的问题比从外面看起来要更强一些。
Speaking of net margin, i.e. net profit, in terms of GAAP earnings, their GAAP net margin increased from 14% to 17% last year. Their fee- based revenue, such as their new membership program, is a high- margin part of the business and has consistently grown by 21%.
So, the issue of margins is a bit stronger than it seems from the outside.
是的,其中一部分是由于产品组合。你看,我们会看看效果如何。Matt,你说得对。个人贷款的利润率更高,利率也更高。这是贷款增长的一大部分。新客户进来时正需要个人贷款。
Yes, and part of that is due to the product mix. And look, we'll see how it works. Matt, you are right. Personal loans have higher margins and higher interest rates. This is a large part of the growth in lending.
New customers are coming in need of personal loans.
你看,不利的一面是,再说一次,我不想悲观,但我认为我们必须说,他们正在积极地向次级市场增加高风险贷款。他们在这方面并不孤单。那也许没问题。但没错,他们获得的利润率是靠吸引没有经验的新客户并向他们提供高风险产品。所以,希望经济能挺过去。
Look, the downside is, and again, I do n't want to be pessimistic, but I think we have to say that they are aggressively adding high-risk loans to the subprime market. They are not alone here.
That might be okay. But yes, the margins they get are by attracting new customers who are not experienced and offering them high-risk products. So, hopefully the economy will survive.
是的。这就导致了产品组合中的那种紧张关系,也许让它比传统按揭贷款和其他东西风险稍高一些。再说一次,市场真的不知道该怎么看待 SoFi 的股票。
Yes. And that leads to that tension in the product mix that maybe makes it a little bit riskier than traditional mortgage lending and other things. Again, the market does n't really know what to make of SoFi stock.
Lu 已经提到了交叉购买比率。这是每位客户的产品数量,既是机会也是挑战。但我要谈谈有形普通股回报率(ROE)。这是一个银行指标。归根结底,它是一家银行。目前,他们的有形普通股回报率大约在10%。
这比一年前的8%有所上升。管理层的长期目标是在20%到30%的区间。坦率地说,一家有形资本回报率达到20%或以上的银行,应该有更高的市净率。所以,说实话,Sofa 目前并不配得上它曾经拥有的高市净率。
他们目前的交易价格大约是2027年盈利的18倍。考虑到业务的增长率,我想说20到25倍的市盈率是合理的,这落在18到22美元的区间。在我看来,在这个不确定的环境下,这是一个有趣的评估。
Lu already mentioned the cross-buy ratio. This is the number of products per customer, which is both an opportunity and a challenge. But I will talk about return on tangible common equity (ROE).
This is a banking metric. At the end of the day, it is a bank. Currently, their return on tangible common equity is around 10%. This is up from 8% a year ago. Management's long-term goal is in the 20 to 30% range.
Frankly, a bank that earns 20% or more return on tangible capital should have a higher price-to-book ratio. So, to be honest , Sofa doesn't currently deserve the high price-to-book ratio it once had.
They are currently trading at about 18 times their 2027 earnings. Considering the growth rate of the business, I would say a price of 20 to 25 times earnings is reasonable, which falls in the range of $18 to $22.
This seems to me to be an interesting assessment in this uncertain environment.
是的,对一家银行来说那真的会很有意思。你看,Taylor,我来试着解决这个市场难题。这家金融科技公司中“fin”即金融的那一面,看起来比“tech”即技术的那一面好得多。技术平台收入下降了24%。
其收入不到1亿美元。这不值得讨论。这是什么,占总收入的6%?那没关系,因为它是一家银行,按照 Matt 的观点,应该把它当作银行来评估。它的交易倍数是许多优秀银行特许经营业务的两倍。
我接受它增长很快,也许它配得上比其他公司更高的倍数。但是,我再说一遍,那种增长是附带一些条件的。对投资者来说,问题是,你愿意为目前非常低的增长支付多少溢价?就我个人而言,我更愿意等一等,看看他们是否真的建立了客户关系,看看交叉销售能否带来一些我能比现在更信赖的增长。
Yes, it would be really interesting for a bank. Look, Taylor, I'll try to solve this market dilemma. The 'fin' or financial side of this fintech looks much better than the 'tech' or technology side.
Tech platform revenue fell 24%. Its revenue is under $100 million. This is not worth discussing. What is this, 6% of total revenue? That's fine, because it's a bank and according to Matt's point, it should be evaluated as a bank.
This is trading at double the multiple of many good bank franchises. I accept that it is growing fast and maybe it deserves a higher multiple than others. However, I repeat , there are some conditions attached to that growth.
The question for investors is, how much premium are you willing to pay for the currently very low growth? Personally , I'd rather wait and see if they actually build relationships and see some growth coming from cross-selling that I can rely on more than I currently do.
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