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TransDigm 是一家强大的垄断型企业,潜在回报为十几倍中低段,但出于对杠杆和风险的担忧,说话者更偏好其他持仓(HEICO)或选择观望。

《HEICO Vs. TransDigm: Whose Aerospace Monopoly Is Better?》
The Intrinsic Value Podcast发布 2026-10-03 · 12 段内容
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而Trans Am几乎是反过来的。股票更便宜,但更多的风险存在于企业自身内部。这说得通。所以这两家企业的增长都令人难以置信地印象深刻。而这归根结底取决于两件事:有机增长,即继续增长他们已拥有的子公司的营收的能力;以及无机增长,即通过将新收购的企业并入利润表所带来的营收。

And with Trans Am it's almost a reverse. The stock is cheaper, but more of the risk sits inside of the business itself. And that makes sense. And so the growth of both businesses has just been insanely impressive.

And it really comes down to two things organic growth or the ability to continue growing revenues of their subsidiaries that they already own, and then inorganic growth or the revenue associated with consolidating their income statements with newly acquired businesses.

所以对于这两家企业,在数十年间增长如此之多,真正迫在眉睫的问题是,它们能否继续这样做?如果能,还能持续多久?然后有机增长和无机增长的构成又是怎样的。

So with both of these businesses. Growing so much over multiple decades, the looming question really is can they continue doing so? And and if so, for for how much longer? And then what is the composition of organic and inorganic growth.

对。那么想象一下这个场景。一架30年机龄的飞机停在你最近国际机场的停机坪上。这架飞机仍在飞行,仍在为所有者创造收入,但飞机上的每一个螺栓、阀门、安全带和传感器最终都会磨损,并在这架飞机退役前需要更换多次。

这架飞机没有被重新设计,他们只是尽可能长久地运行它,以从中榨取尽可能多的价值。而这,我认为,正是增长故事的核心。更多这样的飞机停放更久,随着时间推移不断需要更多零部件。所以当我评估一家连续收购方时,我总是必须问这个问题。

如果一家企业是真正的垄断者,并且已经拥有其目标市场的很大一部分,那么增长就会变得更加难以获得。是的,你可以利用你的垄断力量来提高价格,但正如我们已经看到的,你只能把这一点推到一定程度,之后就会开始引起监管机构的警觉。

所以Daniel我认为很好地解释了trans time的无机增长空间。其要点是,全球航空公司年度维护费用大约在1350亿美元左右。

Right. So picture this for a second. A 30 year old aircraft is sitting on a tarmac at your nearest international airport. The plane is still flying and generating revenue for the owner, but every bolt valve, seat belt and sensor on that plane will eventually wear out and need to be replaced multiple times before that aircraft is retired.

That plane isn't being redesigned, they're just running it for as long as they possibly can to get as much out of it as possible. And that, I think, is really the growth story in a nutshell.

More planes like this sitting around longer, constantly in need of more components over time. So when I'm assessing a serial choir, I always have to ask this question. If a business is a true monopoly and already owns a large percentage of its target market, well then growth becomes that much harder to come by.

Yes, you can use your monopoly power to increase your prices, but as we've already seen, you can only really take that so far before you start raising red flags with regulators.

So Daniel, I think did a really good job of explaining the inorganic growth runway for trans time. Now, the gist of that was that annual global airline maintenance expenses are somewhere in the $135 billion range.

由于Trans Am活跃于该市场的大约一半,这给他们留下了一个价值约600亿美元的市场。目前Trans Dime的售后市场营收约为50亿美元,但这包括军用零部件。所以这个50亿美元的数字会缩水,意味着他们在整个航空业中只有中个位数的市场份额。

所以这意味着,我认为他们在那里还有相当大的增长空间。

Since Trans Am is active in about half of that market, it leaves them a market valued at around $60 billion. Now, aftermarket revenue for Trans Dime is currently around $5 billion, but this includes military components.

So this $5 billion number shrinks, meaning they have kind of mid-single digit market share for the entire airline industry. So this means that they have quite a bit of space, I think, to grow there.

然后我们来看有机增长。我们不能忘记,trans dime非常擅长优化其收购以实现有机增长。一旦它们成为Trans Am的一部分,Trans Am的平均有机增长率约为6%。请记住,这包括新冠疫情后紧接着的两个负增长的异常年份,这人为地压低了那个数字。

Then we have organic growth. We can't forget that trans dime is really good at optimizing their acquisitions to grow organically. Once they are part of Trans Am, trans am has an average organic growth rate of about 6%.

And keep in mind, this includes the two negative outlier years immediately after Covid, which artificially suppresses that number.

是的,新冠疫情确实给评估企业带来了麻烦,因为你必须设法弄清楚是否要把那段时间的指标纳入进来。而且我们一生中还会再发生一次类似新冠疫情的事件吗?也许会,也许不会。但何时发生以及影响会有多大,几乎无法承保。

鉴于Hiko与transform处于相似的行业,你会说Daniel使用的Tam数字也适用于Hiko吗?

Yeah, Covid really threw a wrench into assessing businesses because you have to try and figure out whether to include metrics from that time or not. And will another Covid type event happen again in our lifetime?

So maybe, maybe not. But when and how big the impact will be is pretty much impossible to underwrite. And given that Hiko is in a similar industry to transform, would you say the Tam number that Daniel used also applies to Hiko?

嗯,我想现在到了本期节目谈论内在价值的时候了。Daniel大约一年前给了我们他对Trans Sam的内在价值估算。我要问你的问题是,是的,我们需要对他的数字做很大改动吗,以及那段时间里情况发生了怎样的变化?那我们就来做个比较吧。

Well, I think it's that time of the episode where we speak about intrinsic value. And so Daniel gave us his intrinsic value estimate for Trans Sam about a year ago. And my question for you is, yeah, do we need to change his numbers much, and how have things changed over that time? So let's get into the comparisons.

好,我们来做。不,实际上我认为我对Daniel的建模没有任何异议。唯一的区别是,公司基本上一直在增长,而股价与他当初覆盖时几乎保持不变。这意味着它现在可能比最初被加入内在价值组合时更具吸引力。

Yeah, let's do it. And no, actually I don't think I have any disagreements with Daniel's modeling. The only difference is that the company has basically continued to grow, and the share price has pretty much stayed the same as when he covered it.

Meaning it's probably even more attractive now than when it was first added to the intrinsic value portfolio.

我们再次知道了Transcendence的内在价值,当时Daniel做了建模,估算其内在价值约为1100美元,而这实际上恰好就是该股今天的交易价格。所以为Daniel点赞。这意味着回报率将与我们用来折现现金流的折现率大致相当,这个折现率可能是十几倍的中低端。

We know transcendence intrinsic value again from when Daniel modeled it out and estimated it to be about $1,100, which is actually about exactly where the stock is trading today.

So props to Daniel. And that means the returns are going to be pretty much in line with the discount rate we use to discount the cash flows, which is maybe mid to low teens.

Trans Am同样是一家非常出色的企业,而它的估值倍数只有Hiko的三分之二,这一点让我觉得很有意思。我仍然认为,正因如此,Trans Am在回报方面可能提供更高的上行空间,但说实话,我可能还是更愿意持有Hiko,因为我确实喜欢它的商业模式,而且它仍然拥有一些我认为非常有价值的小优势。

Trans am is also an incredible business, and the fact that it's multiple is just two thirds of Hiko is very interesting to me. I still think Trans Am probably offers a higher upside in terms of returns because of this, but to be honest, I'd probably still rather own Hiko just because I do like the business model and it does still have some of those small edges that I think are very valuable.

至于Transcendence,我想我愿意在这只股票上保持观望。这就是我们今天为你准备的全部内容。和往常一样,我用Trans Am创始人Nicholas Hawley的一句话来收尾。

他说,我们必须关注价值创造细节的两面,同时也要审慎管理我们的资产负债表。你可以看到,我认为今天Trans Am在其历史上很好地走过了这条细线,因为其收入流具有垄断性和高度可预测性,它得以在高杠杆的同时保持高速增长。

这一点本身可能会让一些投资者望而却步。我认为,在我看来,其竞争优势的强度让它变得相对更容易接受一些。这就是我们今天为你准备的全部内容,我们下次再见。

And what's transcendent, I think I'm happy to to stay on the sidelines with that one. Well, that's all we have for you today. And as usual, I'll leave you with a quote here by trans.

I'm founder Nicholas Hawley. We have to say, focus on both sides of the details of value creation, as well as careful management of our balance sheet. You can see, I think today that trans I'm over its history has walked this fine line very well because of the monopolistic and highly forecast nature of its revenue streams, it has been able to continue to grow at a high rate while maintaining a pretty high degree of leverage.

Well, this alone might chase some investors away. I think the strength of their competitive advantage is, in my view, makes it somewhat more palatable. That's all we have for you today, and we'll see you next time.

Trans-Am基本上是由100家小型垄断企业组成的集团。他们收购那些在特定需求上占据主导地位的公司,利用其定价权,然后将其规模化。他们这样做已经超过三十年,并以惊人的每年30%的速度复利增长。

不过,这些年来他们也因为可能过度行使定价权而遭遇了不少反弹。

Trans-Am is basically a conglomerate of 100 small monopolies. They buy companies that dominated specific needs, leverage their pricing power, and then scale it up. They've done that for over three decades now, and they compounded at a ridiculous 30% per year.

They've seen quite some pushback throughout the years, though, for flexing their pricing power maybe just a bit too much.

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而Trans Am几乎是反过来的。股票更便宜,但更多的风险存在于企业自身内部。这说得通。所以这两家企业的增长都令人难以置信地印象深刻。而这归根结底取决于两件事:有机增长,即继续增长他们已拥有的子公司的营收的能力;以及无机增长,即通过将新收购的企业并入利润表所带来的营收。
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