特斯拉估值过高,市盈率约400倍、市销率约13倍;即便按乐观的10年假设,平均内在价值也仅约370美元,而股价约380美元。尽管销售额翻倍,其五年股价却持平,资本回报率已降至3%。他选择回避,但该股仍可能继续上涨。
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Elon Musk 可能即将做出商业史上最大胆的举动,把 Tesla 和 SpaceX 合并成一个价值超过3.7万亿美元的单一帝国。
Elon Musk may be about to make the boldest move in business history, merging Tesla and SpaceX into a single empire worth more than $3.7 trillion.
去年1月,Bloomberg 报道称 SpaceX 正在认真考虑与 Tesla 合并。所以,现在任何人都可以买入 Tesla 和 SpaceX 的股份。
Last January, Bloomberg reported that SpaceX was seriously considering a merger with Tesla. So, anyone can now buy shares in both Tesla and SpaceX.
Tesla 持有 SpaceX 一小部分股份,价值约20亿美元,并且最近向 SpaceX 出售了价值约4.05亿美元的巨型 Megapack 电池。
Tesla owns a small stake in SpaceX worth approximately $2 billion, and recently sold SpaceX giant Megapack batteries worth approximately $405 million.
Tesla 和 SpaceX 是各自独立更有价值,还是合并成一家公司更有价值?Tesla 的估值约为1.5万亿美元,
Are Tesla and SpaceX more valuable individually or as a single company? Tesla is valued at approximately $1.5 trillion,
Tesla 拥有盈利的汽车业务,但正在向新项目投入巨额资金。在一个季度里,Tesla 在建设和扩张上花费了约60亿美元,
Tesla has a profitable car business, but it is investing huge sums in new projects. In one quarter, Tesla spent about $6 billion on building and expansion,
而 Tesla 拥有约430亿美元。所以我们先来分析 Tesla 的情况。上个季度发生了一些奇怪的事。它的营收增长了25%,但核心业务的利润却以更大的百分比下降。
while Tesla has about $43 billion. So let's analyze Tesla's situation first. In the last quarter, something strange happened. Its revenues jumped by 25%, but profits from its core business fell by a larger percentage.
因为 Tesla 正在投入巨额资金打造它的未来:机器人、自动驾驶和人工智能,股东今天正在承担这些成本。
Because Tesla is spending huge sums to build its future: robotics, self-driving, and artificial intelligence, shareholders are bearing these costs today.
与此同时,它的核心汽车业务正经历一些波动,这在六七年前是没有预料到的。交付量下降了约2%,而在欧洲,Tesla 正在迅速把市场份额输给 Volkswagen 这样历史悠久的汽车公司等竞争对手。
At the same time, its core automotive sector is experiencing some volatility, something that was not expected six or seven years ago. Deliveries have fallen by about 2%, and in Europe, Tesla is rapidly losing market share to rivals such as Volkswagen, a long-established car company.
所以,Tesla 的整个故事现在都建立在三个重大的未来押注上。第一,Robotaxi,也就是能够全天候创造利润的自动驾驶汽车。它是一项从小规模起步的服务,但监管机构已经对其展开调查。
因此存在真实的风险,而且它的驾驶辅助项目在欧洲也受到审查,之后才能在那里扩张。
So, Tesla’s entire story now rests on three big future bets. First, robot taxis, which are self-driving cars capable of generating profits around the clock. It's a small-scale service starting out, but regulators have opened an investigation into it.
Therefore, there are real risks , and its driver assistance program is also under scrutiny in Europe before it can expand there.
第二,人形机器人 Optimus,是一个潜力巨大的市场。尽管 Elon 本人也承认,生产会缓慢起步,因为几乎每个零件都必须从零开始制造。Optimus 的真正考验不在于 Tesla 能制造多少台机器人,而在于每一台机器人创造的价值是否超过它的运行成本。
Secondly, Optimus, the humanoid robot, is a potentially huge market. Although Elon himself acknowledges that production will start slowly because almost every part has to be manufactured from scratch.
The real test for Optimus will not be how many robots Tesla can manufacture, but whether each one generates more value than it costs to run.
第三,电池储能业务 Tesla Energy 正在经历显著增长。尽管其在那里的利润率已从约30%下降到20%。
Third, Tesla Energy, the battery storage business, is experiencing remarkable growth. Although its profit margins there have decreased from about 30% to 20%.
另一方面,Tesla 的服务业务,包括充电、软件、保险等,增长了约50%,达到46亿美元,尽管它投入研发的资金比去年增加了近50%。
On the other hand, Tesla's services business , which includes charging, software, insurance and the like, jumped by about 50% to reach $4.6 billion, even as it poured nearly 50% more into research and development compared to last year.
所以,这是从纯商业角度对 Tesla 的正面展望。第一,这家公司独特地把制造、软件和能源集于一身。第二,如果自动驾驶技术真正成功,未来数年里路上的每一辆车都将成为利润来源。但根本要求是它必须真正安全、每英里成本经济,而不只是在演示中令人印象深刻。
第三,鉴于全球竞相储存更多能源,它的电池业务具有长期增长前景。
So, this is the positive outlook for Tesla, from a purely commercial standpoint. Firstly, the company uniquely combines manufacturing, software, and energy under one roof. Secondly, if self-driving technology is truly successful, every car on the road will become a source of profit for years to come.
But the essential requirement is that it be truly safe and economical per mile, not just impressive in a demonstration . Third, its battery sector has long-term growth prospects in light of the world's race to store more energy.
现在来说说负面的一面。第一,来自普通汽车的竞争会迅速赶上并缩小差距。第二,如果达不到预期效果,在人工智能上的巨额支出可能会持续多年压低利润。第三,很简单,这家公司同时在推进大量昂贵且未经检验的项目:自动驾驶出租车、机器人、电池和电子芯片。如果多个项目重叠,其中一个必须被牺牲。
Now, let 's talk about the negative side. Firstly, competition from regular cars quickly catches up and narrows the gap. Secondly, the massive spending on artificial intelligence may continue to reduce profits for years if the desired results do not materialize .
Third, quite simply, the company is running a very large number of expensive and untested projects at once: self-driving taxis, robots, batteries, and electronic chips. If several projects overlap, one of them must be sacrificed .
从价值上看,合并后的公司将大约由40%的Tesla和60%的SpaceX组成。
In terms of value, the merged company will consist of approximately 40% Tesla and 60% SpaceX.
Tesla的电池和SpaceX那些消耗巨大能量的AI数据中心,彼此完美契合。Starlink网络几乎可以在地球上任何地方连接Tesla未来的汽车和机器人。
Tesla's batteries and SpaceX's AI data centers, which consume enormous amounts of energy, are perfectly compatible with each other . the Starlink network can connect Tesla's future cars and robots almost anywhere on Earth .
合并会让Starlink和Tesla Energy这样成功的公司危险地轻易为亏损项目融资,而无人被追究责任。政府监管机构可能会把SpaceX敏感的国防业务与Tesla在中国的大规模存在混为一谈。
mergers make it dangerously easy for successful companies like Starlink and Tesla Energy to finance loss-making projects without anyone being held accountable. government regulators who might confuse SpaceX’s sensitive defense business with Tesla’s massive presence in China.
它们已经通过Megapack销售和合资芯片工厂这类简单合同获得了大部分好处。既然不合并也能获得这些收益,为什么要承担合并带来的所有风险和复杂性呢?
they already capture most of the benefits through simple contracts such as Megapack sales and the joint chip factory. Why take on all the risks and complications of a merger if you can achieve the gains without it?
这两只股票的定价都基于巨大的未来预期。按一个简单的指标来看,Tesla股价对应的市盈率惊人。各位,这几乎是去年利润的近400倍,这意味着投资者今天是在为尚未造出来的自动驾驶汽车和机器人付钱。
both stocks are priced based on huge future expectations. Tesla shares are trading at an astonishing price-to-earnings ratio, according to a simple metric. Guys, that's nearly 400 times last year's profits, which means investors are paying today for self-driving cars and robots that haven't even been made yet .
这里是Tesla。很多人会看着股价,以为那就是公司的价格。这是不对的。一家公司的真正价格是它的市值,也就是股价乘以股份数。
here's Tesla. Now, many will look at the stock price and think that is the price of the company. This is incorrect. The true price of a company is its market value, which is the product of the share price and the number of shares.
对一家汽车公司来说,这是个很出色的数字。公司价值减去市值等于200亿美元。这是它们的总债务。它们去年产生了57.6亿美元的自由现金流,不到其债务水平的四倍。这很好,是个不错的水平。
for a car company , that's an excellent figure . The value of the company less its market value equals $20 billion . This is their total debt. They generated $5.76 billion in free cash flow last year, less than four times their debt level. This is great, it's a good level.
我唯一不喜欢的指标是资本回报率,也就是它们投入业务的资金所获得的回报,这个指标过去五年一直不错,过去五年每年为10%,但去年降到了3%。
The only metric I do n't like, which has been good for the past five years, is return on capital, i.e., the return they get on the money invested in their business , which was 10% annually for the past five years , but has dropped to 3% in the last year.
现在你可以看到,过去五年和十年的利润都很有前景。十年利润率为7.5%,五年利润率为9.7%。去年只有3.7%。公司最近很艰难,这正是我们过去几年谈到过的,人们最终会如何走出Tesla这个问题。
Now, as you can see, the profits of the past five and ten years have been promising. The profit margin over ten years was 7.5%, and over five years it was 9.7%. Last year, it was only 3.7%.
The company has struggled recently, and this is something we've talked about in past years regarding how people will eventually get over the Tesla issue.
这是Tesla的五年走势图。各位,五年前股价是400美元。今天大约是每股400美元。
This is a five- year chart for Tesla. Guys, five years ago, the stock price was $400. Today, it is approximately $400 per share .
你可能会说:“公司确实受了苦。”好,我们来看看利润表。公司在过去12个月实现了1040亿美元的销售额。五年前是530亿美元。你可能会说前一年的销售额是315亿美元。所以销售额至少翻了一倍,甚至可能翻了三倍。这就是公司业绩的差别。
You might say, " Well, the company has suffered." Okay, let's take a look at the income statement. The company achieved sales of $104 billion in the last 12 months. Five years ago , it made $53 billion.
You might say that sales the previous year were $31.5 billion. So, sales have at least doubled, and possibly tripled. This is the difference in the company's performance.
这就是我们之前谈到的,人们不会永远热爱一家公司。最终,足够多的买家进入市场,直到不再有新的买家,或者情况发生变化,股价就会在一段时间内保持平稳。那就是五年。五年啊,各位。股价在这期间几乎不涨。
确实它显示上涨了43%,因为它曾经大幅上涨。但大约一个月后,它就会变成未来五年的负回报。是的,在11月。11月1日,它就会变成负回报。
This is what we were talking about, which is that people will not love a company forever. Eventually, enough buyers will enter the market so that no new buyers remain, or circumstances will change, and the stock price will remain stable for a while.
That means five years. Five years, guys. The share price barely rises in it. It is true that it shows a 43% increase because it has risen dramatically. But in about a month , it will turn into a negative return for the next five years.
Yes, in November. On November 1st, it will turn into a negative return.
各位,流通股数量略有增加。我不怪Tesla。如果股价被明显高估,那就是个问题。目前Tesla超过90%的收入来自汽车。它目前是一家汽车公司,但在其他方面有巨大潜力。
Now, folks, there is a slight increase in the number of outstanding shares. Guys, I don't blame Tesla. If the stock price is significantly overvalued , that's a problem . Over 90% of Tesla's revenue currently comes from cars.
It is currently a car company with great potential for something else.
平均汽车销售倍数是0.5倍。这意味着如果一家汽车公司产生1000亿美元收入,其市值通常在500亿到1000亿美元之间。这个规模就在这里。Tesla的市值是销售额的13倍。因此,这意味着两件事之一:要么投资者高估了这家汽车公司,要么他们高估了它的未来潜力。这两点对公司来说都不是好迹象。
The average number of car sales is 0.5 per one-time sale. This means that if a car company generates $100 billion in revenue, its market value is typically between $50 billion and $100 billion.
This scale is located here. Tesla's market value is 13 times its sales. Therefore, this means one of two things: either the investors are overvaluing the car company, or they are overestimating its future potential .
Neither of these things is a good indicator for the company.
好,我们回到八大支柱。除了估值之外,其他一切都已经验证。尽管过去五年很艰难,现金流仍在增长。净利润在增长,收入在增长,资本回报率也不错。这些都是好迹象。Tesla有很多积极因素。它的销售最近放缓了,但没关系。
Okay, let's go back to the eight pillars. Everything else is verified except for the evaluation. Cash flow is increasing even though the past five years have been difficult. Net income is increasing, revenues are increasing, and the return on capital is good.
These are all good indicators. Tesla has many positive factors. Its sales have slowed down recently, but that's okay.
分析师们非常乐观。他们预计到今年年底利润为1.68美元,未来四年升至9美元。假设Tesla的市盈率为20倍,那么4年后股价将是180美元,假设没有稀释。目前股价是370美元。在我看来,这是非常高的价格。
除非你有不同看法。除非你像Kevin Matt那样说:“不,如果当前市盈率是80亿,那意味着按利润的10亿倍来看这是笔划算买卖。”如果你这么想,那就订阅我们的频道。我有很多东西可以分享。
Well, the analysts are very optimistic. They expect a profit of $1.68 by the end of this year, rising to $9 over the next four years. Assuming Tesla 's price-to-earnings ratio is 20, the stock price will be $180 in 4 years, assuming no dilution.
Currently, the rate is $370. That's a very high price, in my opinion. Unless you think otherwise . Unless you're like Kevin Matt and say, "No, if the current price-to-earnings ratio is 8 billion, then that means it's a deal at 1 billion times the earnings."
If you think this way, then subscribe to our channel. I have a lot to offer.
各位,关于收入,他们的收入翻了一倍多,从1060亿增长到2400亿。这确实是巨大的增长。现在可能难以实现,但分析师对此很乐观。
Guys, regarding revenues, their revenues have more than doubled, from 106 billion to 240 billion. This is truly tremendous growth . It may be difficult to realize now, but analysts are optimistic about it.
现在,我们已经到了一个关键节点。是时候确定买入特斯拉股票的合适价格了。我不骗你,当你买入一家公司时,你买的是它的未来。所以,我必须把自动驾驶出租车、机器人以及所有这些东西考虑进去。
问题是:它的价格是多少?首先,我会做一次10年分析。我的第一个问题是:未来十年的营收增长预测是多少?各位,我高估了自己的预期。10%、20%、30%。我想让你们看看这有多疯狂。
过去五年他们实现了20%的年增长。再保持十年,那是巨大的增长。
Now, we have reached a critical point. It's time to determine the right price to buy Tesla shares. I'm not going to lie to you, when you buy a company, you're buying its future.
So, I have to take into account self- driving taxis, robots, and all that stuff. The question is: What is its price ? First, I will conduct a 10-year analysis. My first question is: What are the revenue growth projections for the next ten years?
Guys , I've overestimated my expectations. 10%, 20%, 30%. I want to show you how crazy that is. They have achieved 20% annual growth over the past five years . That's tremendous growth for another ten years.
接下来,未来十年的预期利润和自由现金流是多少?我做了其他计算,分别是12倍、18倍和24倍。记住,这是他们设定过的最低数字,而且他们以前从未实现过。因此,我对未来的一切非常乐观。
我向特斯拉提出的数字是他们从未见过的。在考虑价格时请记住这一点。
Next, what is the expected profit and free cash flow over the next ten years? I have done other calculations, which are 12, 18 and 24 times. Remember that this is the lowest number they have ever set, and they have never achieved it before.
Therefore, I am very optimistic about everything in the future. I am presenting Tesla with numbers they have never seen before. Keep this in mind when considering the price.
接下来,十年后我会给这家公司多少市盈率或市自由现金流比率?我相信特斯拉有巨大的增长潜力。它甚至可能跑赢市场平均股票,后者长期盈利的市盈率通常在15到17倍之间。因此,我设定了18倍、22倍和26倍的利润倍数。
Next, what price-to- earnings ratio or price-to- free cash flow ratio would I assign to this company after 10 years? I believe Tesla has enormous growth potential. It may even outperform the average stock in the market, which typically trades at between 15 and 17 times long-term earnings.
Therefore, I set 18, 22 and 26 times the profits.
最后,在没有安全边际的情况下,内在价值回报率为9.5%。这家公司的市值是多少?这不是我想支付的价格,也不是我认为你应该支付的价格。它的市值是多少?各位记住,说到股票分析工具,非常重要的是你要大量练习,这样你才能坐下来对未来做出好的假设。
于是,我按下了分析按钮。股价目前是380。我给出的低价是100,高价是1200,平均价是370。所以,各位,我认为我对利润率和增长做出了非常乐观的假设,而根据我的平均假设,我们仍然认为这只股票被高估了。
Finally, an intrinsic value return of 9.5% with no margin of safety. What is the market value of this company? This is not what I want to pay, and it's not what I think you should pay.
What is its market value? Remember, guys , when it comes to stock analysis tools, it’s very important that you do this a lot, so that you can sit down and make good assumptions about the future.
So, I pressed the analyze button. The stock price is currently 380. I have a low price of 100, a high price of 1200, and an average price of 370. So, guys, I thought I made very optimistic assumptions about the profit margin and growth, and we still consider the stock overpriced based on my average assumptions.
对我来说,很难预测这家公司未来十年会实现什么。因此,我尽量避开它,但对你们投资者来说,它可能行得通,因为这只股票在5、6或7年前,甚至8或10年前就被高估了,然后它的价格逐渐上涨。所以,这种情况仍有可能再次发生。
For me, it is difficult to predict what this company will achieve in the next ten years. Therefore, I try to avoid it, but for you investors, it may work because the stock was overpriced 5, 6, or 7 years ago, or even 8 or 10 years ago, and then its price gradually increased. So, it's still possible for it to happen again.
记住,特斯拉股票的市销率曾达到13倍,而我认为那已经过高了。
Remember, Tesla shares were trading at 13 times their sales, and I considered that excessive.
如果我是特斯拉的股东,而他们谈论与SpaceX合并,我会非常担心。
If I were a shareholder in Tesla and they talked about merging with SpaceX, I would be very concerned.
我会使用特斯拉所用的相同市盈率,即18%、22%和26%,收益率为9.5%。一家公司的市盈率是400倍,另一家则严重亏损,而我已经为这两家都设定了真实价格。
I will use the same price-to- earnings (PE) ratio used by Tesla, which is 18%, 22%, and 26%, with a yield of 9.5%. One is trading at 400 times its earnings, and the other is incurring heavy losses, and I have set a true price for both of them.
如果你今年买入了特斯拉或SpaceX的股票,问问自己:你在买入前知道合适的价格吗?还是被故事骗了?对此要对自己诚实。这就是埃隆·马斯克的公司面临的陷阱。它太令人兴奋了,它的故事太令人兴奋了,以至于很容易忘记价格。
但当你支付了错误的价格,即使是最好的公司也会变成糟糕的投资。
if you bought Tesla or SpaceX shares this year , ask yourself: did you know the right price before buying? Or were you deceived by the story? Be honest with yourself about this.
This is the trap that Elon Musk's companies face. It is so exciting , and its story is so exciting, that it is easy to forget the price. But when you pay the wrong price, even the best companies become a bad investment.
在向特斯拉和SpaceX投入哪怕一美元之前,甚至在花哪怕一分钟研究它们之前,就对它们的价值有更清晰的信息,这有什么价值?
What is the value of having clearer information about the value of Tesla and SpaceX before investing a single dollar in them or even before spending a single minute researching them?
我认为他非常想拥有世界上最大的公司,一家公司。我不认为他对三家不同公司的想法很热衷。我认为他想要一家巨大的公司。他会尝试把它们全部合并吗?如果我是个赌博爱好者,我会说是的。但这并不一定意味着它会发生,而且我认为会有很多法律法规反对它。
I think he very much wants to own the largest company in the world, one company. I don't think he's enthusiastic about the idea of three different companies. I think he wants one huge company.
Will he try to merge them all? If I were a gambling enthusiast, I would say yes. But that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen, and I think there are many laws and regulations that will oppose it.
事实上,我认为特斯拉应该把预算分配在汽车和它制造的所有其他产品之间。因此,我不赞成整合。然后,我相信大家都看到了周五他们发布的喷气动力跑车,以及所有那些让它能够倒飞和翻转的功能。
In fact, I think Tesla should split its budget between cars and all the other products it manufactures. Therefore, I am not in favor of integration. Then, I'm sure everyone saw on Friday their announcement of a jet-powered roadster and all those features that enable it to fly upside down and flip over.
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