$TSLA

说话者认为特斯拉与 SpaceX 合并将令两家公司大受裨益,称这一组合“绝对杀手级”,并认为更早达成交易更好,因为特斯拉股东将获得更多 SpaceX 股份;他将其表述为基于模型的预测而非确定之事,并称特斯拉过去是故事主角,如今 SpaceX 才是。

看涨
《Fastest Horse? 🐎🚀 SOL vs NEAR vs ETH, Quantum Dilution, China + Gold vs BTC》
InvestAnswers发布 2026-10-25 · 15 段内容
02:29/ —打开原视频

逐段跳播

15 段内容
2:2936:41

考虑到这件事有多重要、以及一个人如何生活,承担税务损失来分散投资到 Tesla 和 SpaceX,是否能为退休带来更好的风险回报?

would taking a tax hit diversify into Tesla and SpaceX offer better riskreward for retirement knowing how important it is and how one lives.

当我说 Tesla 会跑赢 Bitcoin 时,那也是在将近四年前说对了。

when I said Tesla would outperform Bitcoin. That was right as well nearly four years ago.

我有85%的 Tesla 退休仓位,而且刚刚开始建 SpaceX 仓位,大约占股份的20%,你算一下,当合并发生时,这会让我达到100%多一点,也就是 Tesla 或 Tyron 仓位。

I have 85% of the Tesla retire on bag and have just started SpaceX bag which is around 20% of the shares you calculate when the merger happens this would give me 100% plus a little more of the Tesla or Tyron bag.

所以,考虑到今天 Tesla 的价格,30%的溢价,你知道这会轻松把我们带到接近500美元,理解这一点很简单,同时比率也非常重要,如果你持有 Tesla 股票,在这个溢价下你能拿到多少 SpaceX 股票,答案大约是3股,3股乘以160是480,但记住 SpaceX 的价格在动,Tesla 的价格也在动,一切都是移动的目标,所以考虑比率也很重要。

So given the price of Tesla today 30% premium you know it would take us to nearly 500 bucks easy way to understand that also the ratio is very important if you have Tesla shares how many SpaceX shares you get given this premium the answer will be about three shares three shares times 160 is 480 but remember SpaceX price is moving the Tesla price is moving everything's a moving target so it's important to consider the ratio as Well,

Tesla 323股也是被暗中多留出来的。

Tesla 323 shares is also sandbagged.

所以,要在2032年达到100万美元的仓位,Tesla 大约需要323股。你可以看到,这张图很难看。Tesla 的中位数只有323股。

So, for a $1 million bag by 2032, Tesla, you need that 323 shares approximately. And you can see um yeah this chart is difficult. Tesla only median is 323 shares

如果 Tesla 以3倍换股比例合并,所需的中位数是215股 Tesla。这意味着你不需要那么多 Tesla 股票,因为你在自己的仓位之上还能拿到30%的溢价。所以退休所需的金额就下降了。

If Tesla converts an emerger at 3x, the median required is 215 Tesla shares. What that means is you don't need as many Tesla shares because you're getting a 30% premium on top of your bag. So the retireon amount falls.

这是因为 Tesla 和 SpaceX 之间的协同效应。再说一次,这些是基于模型的预测。我确实相信,如果它们合并、结合,对 SpaceX 和 Tesla 双方的好处都会是巨大的。

这就是为什么实际上要达到100万美元的退休仓位所需的股票更少了。不再是大约300股,现在是215股。

Well, that's because of the synergy between Tesla and SpaceX. Again, these are predictions based on models. I do believe the benefit for both SpaceX and for Tesla will be huge if they merge and combine.

That's why you actually the retirement bag for to get to a million bucks is less. It's no longer 300 approximately. It's now 215.

现在,如果是4倍换股比例,也就是每一股 Tesla 你能拿到4股 SpaceX,我不认为你会拿到这个比例,那样的话就只需要162股。

Now if there is a 4x multiple that is you get four shares of SpaceX which I don't believe you will uh for every Tesla share that would fall to only 162 shares.

所以想象一下,你花了过去三四年时间攒到300股 Tesla,然后你看到这个,就像,哦,你领先了。这就是暗中多留一些的好处,因为多留一点总是好的,之后可以用来享受一些生活方式体验。所以股票更少反而更好。

So imagine you spent the last 3 four years getting to 300 Tesla shares and then you see this it's like oho you're ahead. That's the beauty of sandbagging things as well because it's always good to have a little bit more after for some lifestyle experiences. So fewer shares is better.

Raa,你有85%的 Tesla 仓位加上20%的 SpaceX 仓位。所以你的仓位已经达到105%了。所以在2.03的比率下,这就变成688股 SpaceX。很简单。那就是105%,还多一点。

而且因为很可能会有更高的倍数,大约3倍,也就是30%,比如每一股 Tesla 换3股 SpaceX。那会把你带到955。如果是4倍,就是1,229。

And Raa, you have 85% Tesla bag plus 20% space bag SpaceX bag. So you've got 105% of your bags already. So that becomes 688 SpaceX shares at the 2.03 ratio. Easy. That's 105%. Plus a little more.

And also because there's going to be a higher multiple probably around 3x the 30% like three three SpaceX shares for every Tesla share. That'll take you to 955. And at 4x it's 1,229.

我们都希望 Tesla 与 SpaceX 合并。事实上,如果它更早发生而不是更晚,对我们更有利,正如我最近在财报电话会议上也讲过的那样,基于我的分析。

We all want Tesla to merge at SpaceX. And in fact, we're better off if it happens earlier than later, as I've covered uh on the earnings call recently as well based my analysis.

如果 SpaceX 上涨,顺便说一下,这就是危险所在。如果 SpaceX 真的很快涨上天,如果它很快涨到300美元、500美元,那么他们就有更值钱的货币来收购 Tesla,这意味着你能拿到的 SpaceX 股票会更少。

你仍然能拿到你 SpaceX 的价值,那不会变,但它发生得越早,你拿到的 SpaceX 股票就越多。这是重要的一点,总是让人搞不清楚,但这就是我们现在的处境。

If SpaceX runs, this is the danger by the way. If SpaceX runs to the moon real fast, if it goes to 300 bucks, 500 bucks really quickly, then they have a more valuable currency by which to acquire Tesla, and that means you'll get less SpaceX shares.

You still get your value for your SpaceX. That doesn't change, but the earlier it happens, the more SpaceX shares you get. That's the important thing that trips people up all the time, but that's where we are.

Tesla 曾经是,现在 SpaceX 是,而两者的结合将会是绝对的杀手级。我把能投的都投了。我想要 SpaceX 的敞口,因为我相信这个愿景,而且我想给我儿子留下一些东西。以4.8%、8%的利率借钱来获得敞口是否合理,还是说在我已经有48%仓位在 Tesla 的情况下,这种杠杆风险会超过收益?

Tesla used to be, now SpaceX is, and the combination will be absolutely killer. I invest everything I can. I want exposure to SpaceX because I believe in the vision and I'd like to leave something for my son.

Is borrowing at 4.8% 8% a reasonable way to get exposure or does that leverage risk outweigh it when I'm already 48% in Tesla?

那就像是 Tesla 收购 Uber。他们根本不需要它们。或者 Tesla 收购 Ford 或 GM。这根本说不通。

it' be like it would be like [laughter] Tesla buying Uber. They don't need them at all. Uh or Tesla bike Ford or GM. It just doesn't make any sense.

这个频道对 $TSLA 的历次判断

InvestAnswers 在这只股票上共 29 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。

跨洋听风