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$TSLA · InvestAnswers · 2026-11-08

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特斯拉独立来看,凭借 cybercab 到 2030 年市值应达 10 万亿美元,意味着约 6.6 倍;说话者愿意在 350 美元以下买入特斯拉,以获取约 30% 的合并溢价作为额外收益,并仍持有 380 份 leaps,认为股价从六天前的 418 美元下跌只是暂时的。若不发生合并,按当前价格 SpaceX 更值得持有,SpaceX 在 145 附近为盈亏平衡点。

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我已经持有50%以上的Tesla,目前大约25%是Bitcoin Microg IBIT,10%是SOL,其余是其他IA13的标的。所以你大约25%是IA13,还有50%是Tesla。

I already hold 50% plus Tesla and I'm currently around 25% Bitcoin Microg IBIT and 10% SOL with the rest being other IA13 names. So you're about 25% IA13 and uh 50% Tesla.

Nvidia 30%,Broadcom 64%,TSM 94%,Micron 57%,AMD 29%,Marvel 56%,ALAB 94%,ASML 115%,Google 61%,Tesla只有24.15%,Palanteer 188%。

Nvidia 30%, Broadcom 64%, TSM 94%, Micron 57%, AMD 29%, Marvel 56%, ALAB 94%, ASML 115%, Google 61%, Tesla just 24.15%, Palanteer 188%.

我说过Tesla的表现会比Bitcoin更好。我当时一拳砸在桌子上。那时Tesla大约160美元,而Bitcoin的价格其实就在现在这个位置。

I said Tesla would perform better than Bitcoin. Slam my fist on the table. At the time Tesla was about 160 bucks and the Bitcoin price was actually where it is right now.

如果你有100美元可投资,而你55岁,你现在有53%的仓位在Musk相关的公司里。这有点高了。如果这些公司出了什么坏事,假设它们跌了30%,你的组合就跌到83美元。也就是说,你100美元里有16.50美元因为这部分敞口而亏掉。

这就是高信念押注的危险。但如果你看Ron Baron,他全押在SpaceX和Tesla上。全押。他也靠SpaceX和Tesla赚了一大笔。所以这有风险。传统投资者会说别这么做,风险很大。

我认为55%可以是你的上限。也许再买2%的SpaceX,或者如果可以免税把Tesla换成SpaceX,就稍微轮动一点,随你感觉。

If you have $100 to invest and you're 55, you're 53% right now in Muskled companies. It's kind of high. And if something bad happens to muscle companies, if imagine they fall by 30%.

Your portfolio falls to 83 bucks. So you lose 1650 of your $100 being exposed. That is the danger of uh high conviction bets. But if you look at Ron Baron, he's all in on SpaceX and Tesla.

All in. And he's also made a fortune on SpaceX and Tesla. So it's risky. Uh traditional investors will say don't do it. It's very risky. I think 55% could be your limit. Maybe just get 2% more SpaceX or rotate a little bit if you can taxfree Tesla to SpaceX, what whatever you feel.

抱歉,又是一个关于合并的问题,而且是我正试图做出逻辑决策、可能改变我人生的一个问题,就是现在按3:1的比例把Tesla换成SpaceX。现在扣动扳机、把我退休账户里的Tesla仓位换成大约1,000股SpaceX,这合理吗?

所以你有大约330股,就算Tesla股吧,那能换到1,000股SpaceX。

Sorry, but another merger question and one that I'm trying to make logical decision and that could change my life with a 3:1 Tesla SpaceX trade right now. Does it make sense to pull the trigger and trade my retire Tesla bag for basically 1,000 SpaceX shares?

So you got about 330 um call it Tesla shares that would give you a thousand SpaceX.

我看到SpaceX明年有可能涨到600和800。是的,600是很多人在谈论的目标。不只是华尔街,还有本节目之友Brian Wang。如果他们执行到位、年收入达到3,000亿美元,那600的目标就非常容易,尤其是如果这是高利润率的收入。

那会非常疯狂。再加上30%的溢价,就把它推到800美元左右。另外,那在合并时岂不是变成1:1,我们就失去了3:1的兑换比例?

I see that SpaceX could possibly go to 600 and 800 next year. Yes, 600 is a target that many people are talking about. Not just Wall Street, but Brian Wang on the friend of the show.

And if they ex execute and get to 300 billion AR in revenue, that 600 target is very easy, especially if it's high margin revenue. It would be bonkers. uh plus a 30% premium puts it around $800.

Also, would that not be a one:1 at the merger and we lose out on a 3:1 exchange?

所以再说一次,我这辈子从来没有像这次合并这样,对一件事有这么多问题。我们不知道事情会往哪走,但我们可以建模推演。所以,我其实是在周五的视频或周四的视频里为Brian整理了这个。

基本上,Tesla独立运营到2030年应该能达到10万亿美元市值,因为cyber cab太疯狂了。

So again, I've never ever had so many questions regarding one thing in all my life as this merger. And we don't know where anything is going to go, but we can model it out. So, I put this together for Brian actually on Friday's video or Thursday's video.

And basically Tesla standalone 2030 should get to a $10 trillion market cap because cyber cabs are bonkers.

如果Tesla独立运营,它会是6.6倍。所以在这种情况下,如果没有合并——我要再解释一遍,因为人们总是被搞糊涂——如果没有合并,你以当前价格136买入并持有SpaceX更划算。

如果SpaceX的价格涨到145,那么持有Tesla或持有SpaceX之间就差不多打平了。

Tesla will be a 6.6x if it's standalone. So this in this situation, if there is no merger, and I'll explain this again because people get tripped up all the time. If there's no merger, you're better off holding SpaceX at getting in at the current price 136.

If the price of SpaceX goes to 145, there is like a break even between owning Tesla or SpaceX.

现在说合并后的实体,由于协同效应会发生什么:如果你有10万亿美元市值和15万亿美元市值,合并后就是25万亿美元,考虑到合并甚至可能多得多,那按25万亿美元的估值就是每股990美元的合并价。这就是合并的结果。

Now the merged entity what'll happen because of synergy if you have a $10 trillion market cap and a $15 trillion market cap you get a combo of 25 trillion or a lot more given the merger and that would be a $990 merge per share with a $25 trillion markup. That's the combination.

总之,我回来了,他们在外面。那么合并的话,如果他们真的合并,SpaceX持有者能获得7.3倍回报,而如果你是Tesla股东,你会获得更多回报,因为有溢价加成。这就是区别。如果你在应税账户里,而且像社区里很多人一样,Tesla的成本基础很低,那就持有。

如果你能免税交易,那就做配对交易,但不要为此产生税。

Anyhow, I'm back and they're outside. Um, so the combo, if they do merge, you get a 7.3x return for SpaceX holders and you get more return if you're a Tesla shareholder because the premium kicker.

That's the difference. If you are in a taxable account and you have Tesla at a low cost basis like many people do in the community, hold. If you can trade tax-free, then pair trade, but do not incur taxes for this.

人们还总是被另一件事搞糊涂,就是股份稀释的影响。要小心那些大量稀释股份的公司。它就像一个小偷,悄悄从你后兜里把钱掏走。像Micro Strategy这样的公司卖股票来买Bitcoin。

如果他们是溢价卖,那完全说得通。完全说得通。这是从2020年9月初就有的论点。但如果他们只是为了投资资本开支等而稀释,你就会被打得很惨。所以,如果一家公司有100股,他们把股数增加到110股,你的每股价值就少了9%。

所以一定要明白这一点:SpaceX已经分配了一定数量的股份来收购Tesla。这是既定结论,那也会造成大量稀释。但合并后的实体更值钱。那就是合并后到2030年比如25万亿美元的估值。这是关键。

The other thing as well that people always get tripped up on is the share dilution impact. Be careful of companies that dilute a lot. It's like a secret thief that rips it out of your back pocket.

You got companies like Micro Strategy that sell shares to buy Bitcoin. If they're doing it at a premium, it makes completely sense. Complete sense. That was a thesis since the very beginning of September 2020.

But if they're just diluting to invest in capex, etc., you just get hammered. So if you have a company with 100 shares and they increase the number of shares to 110 shares, your share is worth 9% less.

So make sure you understand that te SpaceX has already allocated a number of shares to acquire Tesla. That's the foregone conclusion and that will cause a lot of dilution as well.

But the combined entity is worth more. That's the combined say 25 trillion by 2030. That's the key.

还有一点,如果你看的话,记住股价——我希望这些都能讲得通,也希望我不用再回答这个问题——股价等于股权市场价值,也就是市值,除以流通股数。就这么简单。在独立运营的情景下,Tesla是10万亿美元,SpaceX是15万亿美元。可能还会高得多。但价格就是这么算出来的。

And the other thing too if you look at it remember the share price and I hope this is all going to make sense and I hope I don't have to answer this again. The share price equals the equity market value, the market cap, divided by the shares outstanding.

That's it. And in standalone scenarios, you got 10 trillion for Tesla, 15 trillion for SpaceX. It could be a lot higher. But that's how the price works out.

还有一点,如果你够聪明——我每周三都会分享这张图,Tesla与SpaceX的配对图,基于优化趋势,在ATR和优化趋势模型上很容易看懂。基本上,如果是橙色,你就买SpaceX。如果是蓝色,你就买Bitcoin。

你猜怎么着?很长一段时间,我们看到这里的区间。让我把这些数字念出来。得稍微放大一点。我们低到每1股Tesla对应2.15股SpaceX。那是10月7日。然后到11月1日,它冲到了2.97。

所以,几周内就是巨大的摆动。但现在趋势已经转向了。我在上周三的视频里确实说过,2.97看起来非常像顶部。那就是轮动的时候。现在就是这样。

The other thing, if you are clever and you I share this chart every Wednesday, Tesla SpaceX pair chart on the optimized trend, easy peasy to read on the ATR and the optimized trend model.

Basically, if it's orange, you buy SpaceX. If it's blue, you buy a Bitcoin. And guess what? For ages, we saw the uh range here. Let me call out these numbers. Got to zoom in a little bit.

We're down at 2.15 SpaceX shares per Tesla. And that was October 7th. And then by November 1st, it shot to 2.97. So, that's a huge swing in a couple of weeks. But now the trend has turned.

And I did say in last Wednesday's video that it's looking very toppy at 2.97. That's the time to rotate. And here we are.

所以,净结论是把这个当作简单的指引。如果你必须配置,如果你在做定投,而你组合里并没有55%在Musk的产业里,那就在140以下、135以下、130以下、126以下买SpaceX,随便哪个,那是更好的价值;或者Tesla在350以下,因为有30%的溢价加成会生效。甚至可能更高。

So, the net is use this as a simple guide. If you if you have to allocate if if you're DCAing and you're not 55% of your portfolio is in Musk Industries, but buy SpaceX under 140, under 135, under 130, 126, whatever, that's the better value or Tesla under 350 because of the premium kicker that will hit that'll be 30%. It could even be higher.

Sigd,如果你超过45岁,以前也经历过这些,那就逢跌买入。我是Starlink和Grockbot的用户,耐心等着手机和Grockbot上操作系统。想法呢?当然绝对要逢跌买入。

我在过去24小时里做了两次,当时市场开着。顺便说一句,我有一个限价单,我完全忘了,在一个账户里买SpaceX,结果在125成交了。它挂在那里,我想大概四五个月,或者四个月,从8月算起,如果我没记错的话,然后它成交了,之后我又买了一次。

所以,SpaceX是一家非常——它是一家非常有意思的公司,是我从没见过的。我们——这里只是顺便说一句——我们看到事情变化得非常快,全都是AI驱动的。好吧。世界历史上增长最快的公司是Anthropic,四五年里凭空冒出来。

砰。那是怎么发生的?AI。然后我们有世界上下一家最大的公司,拥有不可思议的护城河。顺便说一句,在我看来Anthropic没有护城河。模型的权重可以装在一个U盘里。但SpaceX有不可思议的护城河和10年的领先优势。

不仅在于他们如何建数据中心,还在于他们用Starship做什么,以及更多。全球通信。我是说,如果他们开始进军DTOC,直接到手机,那又是5万亿美元的可触达市场,他们可以去进攻并摧毁其他所有人。

所以很有意思。那些电信公司,AT&T、Verizon、T-Mobile,都说:“哦,Elon,他没机会。他建不了基础设施。他威胁不到我们。”一天之后,他们全都提起竞业禁止诉讼,或者开始游说反对竞业禁止。

外面全是胡说八道。是的,Sigdev,去买一些。再说一次,这可能是一段颠簸的旅程,就像发射进入轨道一样,但一旦你进入轨道,你会非常开心。当然,但愿不要发生什么坏事。

Sigd if you're over 45 and have been here before um by the dip I am a user of Starlink and Grockbot dollar makers patiently waiting for the phone and Grockbot coming to an operating system thoughts yeah absolutely buy the dip I did twice in the last 24 hours the markets were opened uh I had a limit order by the way I completely forgot about it in an account for SpaceX and that filled at 125 Um, it was sitting there since I think I don't know four or five months or four months since August if I'm not mistaken and it got filled and then I bought again too.

So, um, SpaceX is a very it's it's a very interesting company like nothing I've ever seen. We we are seeing ju just as a little side note here we're seeing things change very fast all driven by AI.

Okay. Biggest fastest growing company in the history of world is anthropic. out of nowhere in four or five years. Boom. How did that happen? AI. And then we have the next biggest company in the world with incredible moes.

By the way, Anthropic has no moat. As far as I'm concerned, the weights of the model can fit on a thumb drive. But SpaceX has an incredible moat and a 10-year head start. Not only in how they build data centers, but also what they do with their Starship and so much more.

Global comms. I mean, if they start going after DTOC, direct to sell, that's another $5 trillion total addressable market they can go after and attack and destroy everybody else.

So, it's funny. The telos's um AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, were all like, "Oh, Elon, he doesn't have a chance. He doesn't can't build the infrastructure. He can't threaten us." A day later, they all fire non-compete or they start lobbying against non-compete suits.

It's all it's all nonsense out there. Yeah, Sigdev, go get some. Again, it could be a bumpy ride, just like a takeoff into orbit, but once you get into orbit, you'll be very happy. Heaven forbid nothing bad happens, of course.

我们还持有那批380的LEAPS吗?是的。顺便回想一下Tesla,直到后来发生了什么。我们来看。Tesla,仅作参照,它当时在410美元。等等,我得确认一下具体数字没错。Tesla六天前是418美元。

好。所以记住,这只是一点暂时的异常,但愿政府继续完全无用、什么都办不成,那就一切都会好起来。如果他们搞出这种新花样政府,专门用来摧毁我们这个时代的天才、这个星球上头号创造者,那会很可悲,但但愿不是所有人都像Prof那样。

Um, do we still hold the 380 leaps? Yes, remember Tesla, by the way, up until what happened. Let's go. Tesla, just for perspective, uh like it was at $410. Hold on. Just make sure I get the exact number right.

Tesla was at $418 six days ago. All right. So remember this is just a little temporary aberration and uh fingers crossed governments remain completely useless and get nothing done then everything will be fine.

If they create this new fashion government that is designed to destroy the genius of our time and the number one creator on the planet that would be sad but fingers crossed not everybody is like Prof.

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