ASML 仍是长期持有标的:市场预期很高(本季度营收增长 50% 至 55%、每股收益增长 89%),而 33 倍市盈率与 1.5% 股息率的高估值意味着一旦不及预期就有下行风险;但说话者仍将满仓持有至财报公布,并持有 10 年,预期其垄断地位将进一步扩大,装机基础将增长至 250 亿至 300 亿美元。
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我们来看 ASML。我持有大量 ASML,它是半导体行业中极其重要的公司。
We have ASML. I own a lot of ASML, super important company in the semiconductor industry.
那为什么 AI 如此重要?因为 AI 不只是一个流行词。AI 在这个市场里真的意味着大量的盈利增长。
And why is AI so important? Well, AI is not just a buzzword. AI really means a lot of earnings growth in this market.
而在每股收益和营收两方面都预计增长最多的那家公司,就是 ASML。ASML 是我的第五大持仓。这是一个12.4万美元的仓位,浮盈9.2万美元。所以它已经是一个惊人的赢家。而且 ASML 预计仍将大幅增长。
And the one that is expected to grow the most in both its earnings per share and in both its revenue is ASML. ASML is my fifth largest position. It's a $124,000 position with $92,000 in the green.
So, it's been an insane winner already. And ASML is still expected to grow substantially.
这还是一家将在周三发布财报的公司。所以,我们就在 ASML 本周三发布财报之前来看一看它。本季度营收增长最高的公司是 ASML。预计增长50%到55%。这取决于你听的是哪位分析师。
预期区间从高达60%到大约45%,中值在50%到55%左右。这是惊人的营收增长。再说一次,这不是每股收益增长,这是营收增长。这是很大的同比增长。
Now, this is also a company that's reporting earnings on Wednesday. So, let's go ahead and take a look at ASML before it reports its earnings this Wednesday. The top company by revenue growth this quarter is ASML.
It's expected to grow 50 to 55%. It depends on what analyst you're listening to. The the estimates range from upwards of 60% to like 45 with a mid-range of around 50 to 55%. That is incredible revenue growth.
Again, this is not earnings per share growth. This is revenue growth. That's a lot of year-over-year growth.
现在,如果我们从每股收益的角度来看 ASML,这通常比营收更重要,我们通常希望公司的盈利增长。你猜怎么着?ASML 又排在榜首。在这个例子里,我那家更纯粹的 AI 公司,那家只专注于半导体行业的公司,同时涵盖 AI 和实体硬件,是表现最好的。
ASML 预计每股收益增长89%。大概在这个区间。再说一次,分析师的评估各不相同,但大多数人都认同这将是大幅的每股收益增长。
Now, if we look at ASML through the lens of earnings per share, which is even more important than revenue, usually we want the earnings of the company to grow. What do you know?
ASML again is at the top of the list. In this case, my more pure AI company, the one that only focuses in the semiconductor industry, both contrasting AI and physical hardware, is the one that's doing the best.
ASML is expected to grow its earnings per share by 89%. Somewhere in that range. Again, the analyst assessments vary, but most of them agree it's going to be substantial earnings per share growth.
当我们看图表上的每股收益时,会发现一年前并不是特别低的一年。所以这并不是从某个超低的基数上反弹,也不是什么异常情况。不是的,这只是 ASML 的有机增长。
When we look at the earnings per share on the chart, we see that it's not a particularly low year a year ago. So, this isn't like it's coming off of some super low baseline or anything irregular. No, this is just organic growth by ASML.
所以,ASML 和许多这类 AI 公司一样,有着极高的预期,它们必须兑现这些预期。它们必须交出这些数字,否则股价将遭受重创。所以这里存在下行风险。
So, ASML like many of these AI companies has extraordinarily high expectations and they need to fulfill on this. They need to come in with these numbers otherwise the stock will be very hurt. So there is downside here.
当我们看这家公司本身时,估值相对较高。它是33倍的前瞻市盈率,1.5%的自由现金流收益率。所以 ASML 今天并不便宜。它无论如何都不是一只很棒的价值股,而且它有着极高的预期。
When we look at the company itself, the valuation is relatively high. It's at a 33 Ford PE ratio, a 1.5% free cash yield. So ASML is no deal today. It's not a great value stock by any means, and it has extremely high expectations.
通常,当我持有一只仓位很大、估值很高、预期极高的股票时,我会带着很多忐忑来面对这只股票的财报。那会是我对进场感到担忧或紧张的事情,因为我不想失去我的收益。对于 ASML,我已经套现了一部分。
我在它接近每股2000美元时卖出了一些,但即便以它当前的股价,我仍然持有这个仓位,而且我打算持有到财报公布。
Now, normally when I have a stock that's a large position with a high valuation and extremely high expectations, I would approach this earnings with this stock with a lot of trepidation.
It would be something where I'm concerned or nervous about going into it because well, I don't want to lose my gains. With ASML, I have taken some money off the table. I sold some when it was close to $2,000 per share, but even with its current share price, I remain holding this position, and I'm going to hold it into earnings.
现在,我无法保证市场会朝哪个方向反应。过去市场曾错误地抛售ASML,他们可能还会再这么做。但我高度确信,这家公司在未来十年将带来极其出色的回报和良好的业务前景。当我看ASML时,我不是只看这一个季度。
我确实持有它,打算持有未来10年。而当我展望ASML未来10年时,我相信它有着非常光明的前景。
Now, I can't guarantee which way the market will react. The market has sold down ASML incorrectly in the past and they could do it again. But I believe with a high degree of confidence that this company is going to generate incredibly good returns and good business prospects over the next decade.
When I look at ASML, I'm not looking at this one just for this quarter. I do own it going for the next 10 years. And when I look at the 10 years for ASML, I believe it has a very bright future.
其中之一是持续的收入增长。收入增长驱动着其他一切。利润率、盈利,所有这些都是首先由公司的收入增长驱动的。那么,为什么ASML的收入增长会持续下去?我们正进入一个一切都需要芯片的世界。
几乎每一台设备都需要芯片。而要生产出真正适用于各种不同应用的高质量芯片,并以低成本、高良率、高效率地生产出来,你就必须经过ASML的机器。十年之后,我相信你仍然必须经过ASML的机器。
One of them is continued revenue growth. Now, revenue growth drives everything else. The margins, the the earnings, all of that is driven first by the revenue growth of the company.
And why does revenue growth continue to grow for ASML? Well, we're going into a world where everything needs a chip. Like virtually every device needs a chip. And in order to produce good quality chips that actually work for all different applications and to produce them at a cheap price with a high yield efficiently, you have to go through ASML's machines. 10 years in the future, I believe you'll still have to go through ASML's machines.
现在有一种看法认为,护城河会随着时间被侵蚀。它们会变弱。比如ASML会有中国竞争对手追上来,或者像Sony这样的不同公司会以某种方式与它竞争。在某些情况下这确实会发生,但我实际上相信ASML的情况会相反。
我认为在未来10年,护城河实际上会变得更大、更深、更宽。
Now, there's a thought that over time moes erode. They get weaker. Like ASML will have Chinese competitors catch up or or different companies like Sony will compete with them somehow.
That does happen in some cases, but I actually believe it's going to be the opposite with ASML. I think the moat is actually going to get bigger and deeper and wider over the next 10 years.
当你看看正在发生的事,他们实际上开始卖出更多High NA EUV机器。这些就像是他们最顶级的EUV机器,不是那些较低端的,那些较低端的机器护城河就已经如此之宽,没人能复制,但他们开始卖出新一代机器,这些机器远远领先于竞争对手,竞争对手根本连影子都看不到。
没有其他人在做任何哪怕稍微接近的事。他们实际上比下一个竞争对手领先超过十年。而且他们还在拉开距离。距离不是在缩小,ASML与最接近的竞争对手之间的距离正在扩大。
When you look at what's going on, they are actually starting to sell more of their high NA EUV machines. These are like their supreme EUV machines, not their lower the the lower ones, which even the lower ones are so they're such a wide moat, nobody can copy those, but they're starting to sell their new generation ones that are so far ahead of competitors, they're just not even in sight.
There's no one else doing anything remotely close. They are literally over a decade ahead of the next competitor. And they are gaining distance. The distance is not closing in, it's getting wider between ASML and the next closest competitor.
还有一种看法认为人们想要更便宜的芯片,但那意味着你必须经过ASML。而随着时间推移,ASML的护城河不仅仅在技术上扩张。他们不仅仅是以比任何人都快的速度把自己在做的事做得更好,它还在很多不同方面扩张。
例如,在他们的供应商关系、所有材料、物流以及与客户的关系方面,ASML都处理得非常完美。管理层在发展与客户的关系上一直保持克制和自律。他们喜欢这些客户。他们有协议。他们的客户在某个阶段甚至投资了ASML。
而现在他们与所有晶圆厂都建立了根深蒂固的关系。这些公司已经把ASML的机器嵌入到他们的系统和运营中。而这些是又大又贵的机器,要连根拔起需要付出巨大的努力。
There's also the thought that people want cheaper chips, but that means you have to go through ASML. And over time, the moat for ASML is not just expanding technologically. They're not just getting better at what they do at a faster clip than anyone else, but it also expands in lots of different ways.
For example, in their supplier relationships, in all their materials, in their logistics with their customer relationship, ASML has navigated this perfectly. Management has been restrained and disciplined in growing the relationship with their customers.
They they like them. They have agreements. Their customers up until a point were even invested in ASML. And now they have deep rooted relationships with all the fab makers. These are companies that have ASML machines embedded into their systems and operations.
And these are big expensive machines that would take an enormous amount of effort to uproot.
然后单看供应商关系,所有独家协议,ASML从字面意义上数千家不同公司获取供应,另一家公司要复制这些会非常困难。竞争对手不仅必须复制ASML的技术、他们所有的供应商关系,还必须搞清楚所有的化学工艺,把这一切都搭建起来,但即便他们有一台差不多一样好的机器,他们也需要说服ASML的所有客户从ASML转向他们,以便在这个过程中省点钱。
这些公司大多不想省钱。他们想省时间,想提高良率。那才是真正让他们付出最大成本的地方。所以他们会选择他们信任的公司。
And then just going into the supplier relationships, all the exclusive agreements, literally thousands of different companies that ASML gets it supplies from, that would be very difficult for another company to replicate.
Not only would a competitor have to replicate ASML's technology, all their supplier relationships, they'd have to figure out all the chemistry, build all of it together, but even if they have a machine that's about as good, they need to convince all the customers of ASML to switch from ASML to them to save some money in the process.
Most of these companies don't want to save money. They want to save time and they want to increase yield. That's really what costs them the most. So they will go with the company they have trust with.
所以你还有物流、分销模式。你还有这样一个事实:当他们安装机器时,你必须持续升级、维护并提供服务,而且有独家协议来做这件事。这叫做装机基础管理销售。这里说管理似乎有点委婉,但基本上机器安装之后,它仍然极其复杂。
你需要专家来运行、维护并把它升级到新的迭代、新的技术。所有这些都非常昂贵。ASML拥有专业知识,而且他们正在大幅增长这部分业务。我相信10年后,这可能是一个250亿到300亿的业务。
现在,它才刚刚接近100亿。所以,如果装机基础管理在未来10年增长两倍,这家公司的每股收益增长就会有一个基线。
So you also have a logistics a distribution mode. You also have the fact that when they install machines you have to continually upgrade them service them and you have exclusive agreements doing that.
This is called the install base management sales. It it seems like uh management's a bit of a euphemism here but it's basically after machine is installed it's still incredibly complex.
You need experts to run it and service it and upgrade it to the new iterations, the new technology. All of that is very expensive. ASML has expertise and they're growing this part of their business dramatically.
I believe that in 10 years, this could be a 25 to30 billion business. Right now, it's just approaching 10. So, if you have install base management triple over the next 10 years, the earnings per share growth of this company is going to grow on a baseline.
我在这里想向投资者传达的最重要一点是,当我看公司时,我总是试图寻找潜在的弱点。地平线上出现的竞争对手、夺走他们的市场,或者管理团队的失误,而在这里我根本看不到任何这些。ASML仍然拥有顶级的管理层,高度自律且着眼长期。
我看不到有任何竞争对手在做任何对公司构成哪怕一丝威胁的事。总有些议论说也许这会发生,但我在这里看不到。我相信ASML是真正拥有完全垄断的公司之一。完全的垄断。当然,他们不会滥用它,因为他们是良好的管理者,但他们处于一个非常独特的位置。所以,这一只我会继续满仓持有。
The biggest thing I'd portray for investors here is when I'm looking at companies, I'm always trying to look at potential weaknesses. Competitors on the horizon, taking their market or stumblings from management team, and I just don't see any here.
ASML remains with top tier management, highly disciplined and long-term focused. I don't see any competitors that are doing anything that's remotely threatening to the company.
There's always chatter of it that maybe it will happen, but I don't see it here. And I believe that ASML is one of the true companies that has a full monopoly. A full-on monopoly.
Now, they're not going to abuse it because they're good stewards over it, but they are in a very unique position. So, this one I'm remaining fully invested in.
像ASML和TSM这样的公司将在未来10年继续增长。
Companies like ASML and TSM are going to continue growing for the next 10 years.
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