ASML 本周业绩应当会超预期,但股价未必上涨,存在获利了结的风险。当前股价约 1800 美元、市盈率 40 倍,已计入 2028 年盈利,未来几个月内大概率不会突破 2000 美元;在经历 4-5 个月的震荡后,有望创下新高,但这取决于下游 AI 的透明度。
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现在到了深入探讨我们特色技术板块的时间。ASML 是我们今天的技术焦点。ASML 的股票自今年年初以来确实一直很赚钱。比如,该股上涨了64%,而且 CEO 谈到了可能延续到2028年之后的人工智能芯片热潮。那么,你对这样一家公司有什么看法?
Now it's time to delve into our featured technical segment. ASML is our technical focus today. ASML stock has certainly been profitable since the beginning of the year so far. For example, the stock rose by 64%, and the CEO spoke about an AI chip boom that could extend beyond 2028 .
So, what are your thoughts on a company like this?
好,Nicole,我们预计本周晚些时候发布的这份财报每股收益为12.50美元,而我们的中值盈利惊喜为4%。因此,如果我们获得与过去四个季度类似的惊喜,这个数字将是每股13美元。
Okay, Nicole, we're expecting $12.50 per share in this earnings report coming out later this week, and we have a mid-range earnings surprise of 4%. Therefore, this figure would be $13 per share if we get a surprise similar to the past four quarters.
但我们在第二季度看到了大得多的惊喜,达到了12%。因此,这里的上行潜力在于盈利可能超过每股13美元,甚至14美元。我们接下来需要看到的是该股表现的持续性如何。是的,该股目前交易价约为1800美元,市盈率为40。
But we saw a much bigger surprise in the second quarter, which was 12%. Therefore, the upside potential here lies in earnings that could exceed $13 and even $14 per share. What we need to see next is how consistent the stock's performance is.
Yes, the stock is currently trading at approximately $1800 with a price-to-earnings ratio of 40.
所以,这里的要点是,他们肯定会有一个强劲的季度。他们肯定会超出预期。但如果这些业绩的强劲程度不足以推动股价,我们可能会看到明显的获利了结。因此,对于这份财报的结果,我持某种程度的中性态度,但期权市场隐含的波动率为6%。
也就是说,该股可能上涨或下跌6%。这可能对 ASML 股票周三的走势产生很大影响。
So, the point here is that they will definitely have a strong quarter. They will certainly exceed expectations. But if the strength of these results is not enough to move the stock, we may see significant profit-taking.
Therefore, I am somewhat neutral regarding the outcome of this earnings report, but the implied volatility in the options market is 6 %. That is, the stock may move up or down by 6%.
This could be very influential on what will happen to ASML stock on Wednesday.
你发给我们的报告中有一页谈到了该公司的定价,以及 ASML 被高估了。这就是目前的情况。你怎么看当前的价格水平?现在是1759美元。下跌了1.1%。我知道我们在等待周三的财报,但你认为该股为什么被高估?
One of the pages of the report you sent us talked about the company's pricing and that ASML was overrated. This is the current situation. What do you think of the current price level?
It is at $1759. It is down by 1.1%. I know we're waiting for Wednesday's earnings, but why do you think the stock is overvalued?
是的,Nicole,在他们供货的许多不同客户群中,他们的装机量实现了约30%的年增长。他们的市盈率为40。所以,如果你把40倍的市盈率视为相对于你的交易量而言市场增长的指标,那么你实际上实现了30%的增长,这让你比那个水平高出约10个点。
Yes, Nicole, they are achieving an annual increase of approximately 30% in their installed units across the many different groups they supply . They have a price-to-earnings ratio of 40.
So, if you consider a price-to-earnings ratio of 40 to be an indicator of market growth relative to your trading volume, you are actually achieving 30% growth, which puts you about 10 points higher than that.
我认为,如果你看图表,Zacks 指标显示每股1800美元的价格反映了2028年的盈利预测。所以,这意味着市场是基于比我们领先两年的前瞻性展望来给该股定价的。如果你看其他股票的图表,我们可能会发现我们谈论的是2029年。
其想法是,他们相信截至2028年甚至2029年签订的所有这些合同都会得到保证。这是一个非常严苛的共识,Nicole。这就是担忧的来源。他们没有犯错的余地,而极高的预期已经成为股价的一部分。
I think if you look at the chart, the Zacks indicator shows that the $1,800 price per share reflects the 2028 earnings forecast. So, this means that the market is pricing the stock based on a forward outlook that is two years ahead of us .
If you look at other stock charts, we may find that we are talking about the year 2029. The idea is that they believe that all these contracts made up to 2028 or even 2029 will be guaranteed for them.
This is a very restrictive consensus, Nicole. This is the source of concern. They have no room for error, and the extremely high expectations have already become part of the stock price.
当我从大局来看时,我发现我们所期待的很多东西都取决于人工智能的扩张。如果这种扩张缓慢,可能会是个问题,因为 ASML 的长期数字依赖于它;他们制造生产先进处理器所需的机器。
When I look at the big picture, I see that much of what we look forward to depends on the expansion of artificial intelligence. If this expansion is slow, it could be a problem because ASML's long-term numbers depend on it; they manufacture the machines needed to produce advanced processors.
或者,你担心这一部分吗?他们拥有未来愿景的消息是好消息,还是对扩张计划的高度依赖是坏消息?是的,简单理解一下他们工作的本质。他们使用非常高水平的纳米光束,将其引导到硅晶圆上,以蚀刻晶圆的电路。
而现在你可以把数百万、数百万,甚至数万亿个电路放到这些芯片上。因此,他们处于基础设施供应链的非常后期阶段。事实上,他们可能处于整条生产线的最末端。但正如你指出的,人工智能业务面向消费者和企业,目前没有利润,有大量全天候的资金投入,电力接入延迟,地方和州政府对人工智能数据中心的反对,以及影响该领域运营公司的严格安全法规。
所以,当你处于供应链的前端并承接所有这些工作时,你就把自己暴露在那些可能稍后出现的所有问题面前,这些问题很多且重大,最终会向你涌来。所以,这就是问题所在;长期以来,这一直是关于这个市场的工具,而这始终意味着 ASML。
他们在最后阶段拥有垄断地位,这就是为什么会有如此非常乐观的前景;人们没有意识到债券市场、高风险债券市场的基础并不稳固,Nicole,这在大声疾呼,接下来这些阶段的参与者正承受着巨大压力。
Or, are you worried about this part? Is the news that they have a future vision good, or is the heavy reliance on expansion plans bad news? Yes, to understand the nature of their work simply.
They use very high levels of nanometer beams and direct them onto silicon wafers to etch the wafers' electrical circuitry. And now you can put millions and millions, even trillions of circuits onto these chips.
Therefore, they are at a very late stage in the infrastructure supply chain . In fact, they are probably at the very end of the entire production line . But as you pointed out , AI work is consumer- and business-oriented, there are no profits at the moment , there is a lot of round-the-clock funding, delays in power connections, opposition from local and state governments to AI data centers , as well as strict safety regulations affecting companies operating in this field.
So, when you are at the front of the supply chain and you receive all this work, you expose yourself to facing all those problems that may appear later, and they are many and significant, and they will ultimately come towards you.
So, this is the problem; For a long time, it was about the tools of this market, which always meant ASML. They have a monopoly in the final stages, and that is why there is such a very optimistic outlook; People don't realize the shaky foundations of the bond market, and the high-risk bond market, Nicole, screams that these players in the next stages are under tremendous pressure .
当我们考虑这里1758美元的价格时,既然你肯定有更多买入而非卖出的理由,看来你更倾向于乐观的一方。当你担心它可能被高估时,我们能预期这只股票有多大的上行潜力?
When we consider the prices here at 1758, and since you certainly have more reasons to buy than to sell, it seems you are more inclined to be on the optimistic side. What kind of upside potential can we expect for this stock when you are concerned about the possibility that it is overpriced?
嗯,如你所知,我们曾达到2000点的世界纪录高点,而现在正如你指出的,我们在1800或1750。因此,我认为我们无法在未来几个月突破2000点水平,因为要克服所有负面消息流将极其困难。
但是,在那之前,以及在随后的阶段,如果出现4到5个月的业绩波动,我也不会感到意外,之后该股可能会创下新的纪录高点。但这确实取决于那些与其向芯片制造商的实际交付无关的公司的透明度,比如 SK Hynix、Samsung、Intel,以及像 TSMC 和 Taiwan Semiconductor 这样的集团。
这些集团不是需要担心的;他们是客户,但他们不是担忧的来源。需要担心的集团是那些处于更后期阶段的。像 Anthropic、ChatGPT、Oracle 以及所有那些名字这样的公司。
所以,看看市场如何反应,以及 CEO 周三的评论如何应对未来更遥远阶段的所有这些动荡,将会非常有意思。
Well, as you know, we reached a world record high at 2000, and now we are at 1800 or 1750, as you pointed out. Therefore, I don't think we can break through the 2000 level in the next few months, because it will be extremely difficult to overcome all the negative news flows .
But, before that , and in the following stages , I wouldn't be surprised if there were fluctuations in performance for 4 to 5 months, after which the stock might hit a new record high.
But it really depends on transparency in companies that have nothing to do with their actual deliveries to chipmakers, such as SK Hynix, Samsung , Intel, and groups like TSMC and Taiwan Semiconductor.
These groups are not the ones to worry about ; they are customers, but they are not the source of concern. The groups to be concerned about are those that are in much later stages.
Companies like Anthropic, ChatGPT, Oracle, and all those names. So, it will be really interesting to see how the market reacts, and how the CEO's comments on Wednesday address all this turmoil in the more distant stages to come.
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这个频道对 $ASML 的历次判断
Schwab Network 在这只股票上共 4 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。