BE 下跌 11% 属于把孩子和洗澡水一起倒掉:它几乎是独一无二的数据中心燃料电池供应商,拥有 200 亿美元积压订单和三位数营收增长,从长期视角看值得看好。唯一的不利之处是其 60 至 65 倍的远期市盈率;短期而言,它随科技板块一同波动。
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在今天晚些时候Bloom Energy发布财报之前,让我们在科技聚焦环节中更深入地了解一下这家公司。我们知道,Bloom Energy与人工智能相关的一切都有关联。请给我们多讲讲像Bloom Energy这样的公司的大局。
Let's delve deeper into Bloom Energy ahead of its earnings report later today in our technology spotlight segment. We know that " Bloom Energy" is associated with everything related to artificial intelligence.
Tell us more about the big picture for a company like " Bloom Energy".
Bloom Energy本质上生产的是能为这些数据中心开发商发电的燃料电池。这是一项非常急需的技术,因为举例来说,他们能让这些电力比公共事业公司更快地投入运行。所以,再次强调,它的需求很高。
Well, Bloom Energy essentially manufactures fuel cells that can generate electricity for these data center developers. It is a much-needed technology because they can get this electricity running faster than public utilities, for example. So, once again , it is in high demand.
如你所知,它今天大幅下跌。我们实际上看好它的长期前景,因为它的现状以及能源需求加速增长的速度。
As you know, it's significantly lower today. We actually like its long-term outlook because of its current situation and how rapidly the demand for energy is accelerating.
那么,像这样一天下跌11%,是否代表一个买入机会?这听起来像是恐惧被夸大,还是把婴儿和洗澡水一起倒掉的情况?是的,我会说这绝对是把孩子和洗澡水一起倒掉的情况。所以,它是一家伟大的公司。
So, a day like this, when it drops by 11%, does that represent a buying opportunity? Does it sound like an exaggeration of fear , or a case of throwing the baby in with bathwater?
Yes, I would say it is definitely a case of throwing the baby in with the bathwater. So, it's a great company.
我的意思是,我会说唯一的缺点是它的交易价格是未来盈利的60到65倍。但再次强调,他们的订单积压达到200亿,收入正以三位数的速度增长。
I mean, I would say the only downside is that it's trading at 60 to 65 times future earnings. But again, their backlog of orders stands at 20 billion, and their revenues are growing at triple- digit rates.
这简直是一项非常、非常急需的技术。当数据中心提供商或大型公司聚在一起时,他们会试图尽快扩建并让这些中心投入运行以降低成本。这项技术让他们能够做到这一点。
It is simply a very, very much needed technology . When data center providers or large companies get together, they try to expand and get these centers up and running as quickly as possible to reduce their costs.
This is the technology that allows them to do that.
外面真的没有另一家像它这样的公司。它已经到了公共事业公司自己都在与Bloom Energy建立合作关系的程度。
There really isn't another company like it out there. It has reached a point where public utilities themselves are entering into partnerships with Bloom Energy.
所以,再次强调,它是一家伟大的公司。我们喜欢长期预测,但就目前而言,它们受到科技股交易中发生的一切的影响。你看,在第二季度他们非常乐观,谈到了销售额翻倍,并给了我们非常乐观的预测。你现在期望从公司听到什么?你希望听到什么?
So, again, it's a great company. We like long-term forecasts , but for the time being, they are influenced by everything that happens in technology trading. Look, in the second quarter they were very positive and talked about sales doubling and gave us very positive forecasts.
What do you expect to hear from the company now? What would you like to hear?
我希望听到他们正在组织制造流程,生产正在走向市场,因为没有比这更好的说法了。因此,他们正在良好地利用自己的能力,并正在建立新的合作伙伴关系。
I would like to hear that they are organizing the manufacturing processes, and that the production is going out to the markets, for there is no better way to put it. Therefore, they are leveraging their capabilities in a good position and are forging new partnerships.
我们希望看到Bloom Energy从中分得一杯羹,不是吗?因为,再次强调,它能够比公共事业公司以更快的速度和更高的效率提供这种能源。
We would like to see Bloom Energy get a share of that, wouldn't we ? Because, once again, it is able to provide this energy source at a faster pace and with greater efficiency than public utilities.
所以,我们希望在这方面看到任何东西,无论是订单积压、确认订单,还是类似的东西。事实上,华尔街的讨论是关于他们对第二季度是否过于乐观?他们真的在等待像Bloom Energy这样的公司来证明人工智能的需求有多强劲。
So, we would like to see anything on this front, whether it's order backlogs, confirmed orders, or anything like that. In fact, the talk on Wall Street was about whether they were being too optimistic about the second quarter?
They are really waiting for a company like Bloom Energy to demonstrate just how strong the demand for artificial intelligence is.
这个订单的规模有多大?例如,在数字上超出预期可能确认客户仍在购买这项服务,这可能会刺激新的购买。另一方面,未能达到预期会带来风险,因为这表明存在合理的怀疑,而且这可能只是暂时的侥幸。
What is the size of this order? For example, exceeding expectations in terms of numbers may confirm that customers are still buying the service, which may stimulate new purchases.
On the other hand, failure to meet expectations carries risks, because it suggests that there are justifiable doubts, and that it may have been just a temporary fluke.
但随着AI基础设施的扩张,你倾向于认为像这样的公司前景会不错,不是吗?
But you tend to think things will look good for a company like this as the AI infrastructure expands, don't you ?
这可能正是上周Bloom Energy股价上涨的原因之一。因此,我认为这些合作关系构成了整个故事的一大部分,包括在数据中心扩张中的参与。
This may have been one of the reasons that led to the rise in Bloom Energy's stock last week. Therefore, I believe that these partnerships form a large part of the story, including the presence in the expansion of data centers.
没错。他们的合作关系非常出色。如你所知,他们与Oracle、Brookfield,甚至American Electric Power都有大量合作。
correct. Well, they have great partnerships. As you know, they work a lot with Oracle, Brookfield, and even American Electric Power.
所以,再说一次,这些合作关系对他们来说已经存在了。关键在于在此基础上继续发展。他们需要的是位于同一地点的东西。他们需要的是随时可用的东西,而这正是Bloom Energy所提供的。
So, once again, the partnerships already exist for them. It's about continuing to build on it. They need something that is in the same location. They need something ready to go, and that's what Bloom Energy provides.
所以,如你所知,任何额外的合作关系当然都会成为、或者说应该会成为该股的正面催化剂。所以,当你想加快这些项目的进度时,你就需要Bloom Energy。你不想依赖老旧的传统电网,而他们正是在这一点上发挥作用。
So , as you know, any additional partnerships will of course be a positive catalyst or should be a positive catalyst for the stock. So, when you want to accelerate the pace of these projects, you need Bloom Energy.
You don't want to rely on the old, traditional electricity grid , and that's where they come in .
Mark Givens,很高兴见到你。Givens Capital Management的投资主管,对Bloom Energy做了一番精彩的解读,我们今晚收盘钟声响起后会继续关注。
Mark Givens , it was a pleasure seeing you. The head of investment at Givens Capital Management, and a fascinating look at Bloom Energy, which we will be watching tonight after the bell rings.
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