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ARK给出的2031年特斯拉基准情形估值为4,400美元,约为当前股价的12倍,这是他会满意的结果;其中robotaxi占2031年估值的81%,新纳入的Optimus占14%。最大风险是监管延迟导致robotaxi放量放缓,不过ARK表示这类延迟正在减少。

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《Ark Just Dropped New Tesla Valuation ($4,400 per share). Here’s What Matters.》
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每股4,400美元。这是Ark Invest对特斯拉股票2031年基准情形下的预期价值。这将意味着超过17万亿美元的市值,大约是特斯拉当前市值的12倍。

$4,400 per share. That's Arc Invest's expected value for Tesla stock in 2031 in the base case. This would be more than $17 trillion in market cap, about 12 times where Tesla is today.

在我录制这段内容时,股价略低于每股369美元。新模型几个小时前才发布,还配有一篇博客文章。我们将重点看看其中一些关键亮点,特别是上一个模型和新模型之间有哪些变化,以及最重要的、最大的价值驱动因素。

As I record this, just under $369 per share. The new model dropped just a few hours ago. There's an accompanying blog post. We're going to be looking at some of the key highlights in particular. what's changed between the last model and the new model and the most important biggest drivers of value.

这是一个5年期的模型预测周期,而ARK的基准情形是特斯拉股价在这段时间内涨幅远超10倍。

This is a 5year model horizon and ARK's base case is well above a 10 times increase in Tesla's stock over that time frame.

现在说最受关注的那个数字:每股4,400美元。此外还有一个熊市情形。令人意外的是,它离4,400美元的基准并不算远,只有3,300美元。

Now, the headline number $4,400 per share. There's also a bare case. Surprisingly, it's not that far off where the 4,400 base is at just 3,300.

我想让这个视频尽量简洁,不过给不了解的人说明一下,ARK的建模方式是对潜在结果进行大量不同的模拟,然后基本上把这些结果从最差到最好排列起来。正中间就是基准情形,即每股4,400美元。

如果把这一系列结果均匀划分,它就处在第50百分位。从正中间往最差情形方向走一半,就是熊市情形。第25和第75百分位分别是熊市和牛市情形。

I want to keep this video pretty concise, but for those who don't know, the way ARC models this is a ton of different simulations of potential outcomes. They then essentially line those up from worst to best.

Right in the middle of those is where the base case is, the 4,400 per share. If you divide that span of outcomes evenly, this is at the 50th percentile. Right down the middle, go halfway toward the worst case.

We're at the bare case. The 25th and 75th percentiles are the bear and bull case.

熊市情形是每股3,300美元,相比特斯拉当前股价仍大约有9倍涨幅。牛市情形并没有比基准高出多少。在我看来,这说明可能结果的范围已经收窄,也就是说ARK对其估算、分析和模型的信心有所增强。

The bear is 3,300 per share. Still roughly a 9 times increase from where Tesla is today. The bull case not that much above the base. This to me suggests that the range of possible outcomes has tightened.

Meaning ARK's confidence in their estimates, their analysis, their model has increased.

完整的ARK模型有32个对估值有实质性影响的输入项。

The full ARC model has 32 inputs that meaningfully affect the valuation.

首先,ARK最近一次在2024年发布的模型是一个5年期模型,所以它预测到2029年。当时对特斯拉的估算公允价值,或者说他们预期的公允价值,是每股2,600美元。

First of all, ARK's most recent model released in 2024 was a 5-year model. So, it went out till 2029. And the estimated fair value for Tesla then, or their expected fair value was $2,600 per share.

所以,你准备好了吗?仅仅因为把预测往后多看了2年,就带来了高达69%的增长。仅仅把预测期再延长两年就带来估值如此巨大的提升,主要驱动因素——这里没有双关的意思——是Robotaxi的影响。

So, this is a whopping, are you ready for it? 69% nice increase by looking 2 years further into the future. The main driver, no pun intended, of this huge increase in valuation by just extending a further two years is the impact of robo taxi.

这是意料之中的。Robotaxi的规模化不会瞬间实现。所以你把目光投向越远的未来,直到特斯拉的Robotaxi业务达到巨大规模,来自其不断扩大的Robotaxi业务的收入和利润就会越可观,也就意味着公司的公允价值估值越高。

This is to be expected. Scaling robo taxi doesn't happen instantly. So the further out into the future you look until Tesla's robo taxi business is at massive scale, the more substantial the revenue and profits from their ever larger robo taxi business will be, meaning the higher the fair valuation for the company.

所以预计这一趋势会延续下去。下一个模型如果把预测期再往后延长一年左右,又会因为更多Robotaxi收入和利润而出现一次大幅提升。

So expect this trend to continue. the next model when it extends a year or so into the future, another big bump from even more robo taxi revenue and profits.

还有Optimus,别提了。所以从2,600到4,400的大部分增长,未必是底层假设发生了重大变化,而纯粹是因为模型现在多看了2年的Robotaxi规模化进程及其对特斯拉业务的影响。

And don't get me started on Optimus. So, the majority of the increase from 2600 to 4,400 isn't necessarily major changes to the underlying assumptions. It's just literally, well, the model's now looking at 2 years of additional robo taxi scaling and the impact on Tesla's business.

我们还有一个预期价值。这与基准情形略有不同,基准情形其实就是第50百分位。对不那么技术宅的朋友说声抱歉,请耐心一点,我们很快就会讲到精彩的部分。这是最后一个,我保证。不过对于稍微有点这方面癖好的朋友来说,这是他们按概率加权的2031年估值。

与第50百分位相差不大,但方法略有不同,最终结果非常接近。

We also have an expected value. This is slightly different from the base case, which is literally just the 50th percentile. Sorry for the people who aren't super nerdy. Bear with me.

We'll get to the juicy [ __ ] soon. This is the last, I promise. For those of you with at least a touch of the tism, though, this is their weighted probability weighted 2031 valuation.

Not too far off the 50th percentile mark, but this is a slightly different methodology. Very similar end result.

熊市和牛市情形也是如此。它们与各自的第25和第75百分位相差不大,大约在10%以内。第二部分,深入分析。哦对了,大家可能没注意到,这次演示我得到了我最喜欢的产品Grockbot的一点帮助。

所以谢谢Crockbot,没有你我可做不出来。我们现在来看深入分析。以下这四项要么对估值影响最大,要么单独来看也非常值得仔细研究。

Also true of the bear and bull case. They're not too far off, you know, within about 10% of their respective 25th and 75th percentiles. Part two, the deep dive. Oh, by the way, in case you guys haven't noticed, got a little bit of help from my favorite product of all time, Grockbot, on this presentation.

So thanks Crockbot. Couldn't have done it without you. We're now looking at a deep dive. These are the four things that either move the valuation most or separately are just really worth taking a closer look at.

Robotaxi占特斯拉2031年企业价值的81%,绝对是撑起这家公司的支柱。

So Robo Taxi accounts for 81% of Tesla's 2031 enterprise value. Absolutely carrying the company.

真正值得关注的是,Optimus 此前并不在 Ark 的模型中,如今它已占到 Tesla 2031 年企业价值的 14%。

What's really worth looking at is that the addition of Optimus, which wasn't in Ark's previous model, is now accounting for 14% of Tesla's 2031 enterprise value.

而且 ARC 对 Optimus 的假设仍然相当保守。再说一遍,这是 2031 年,也就是 5 年后的时间框架,所以离现在并不算太远。Optimus 要达到惊人的规模还需要很长时间。

即便如此,Optimus 在 2031 年已经占到企业价值的 14%。

And ARC is still quite conservative on their Optimus assumptions. Again, this is a 2031 5-year time frame. So, it's not that far into the future. Optimus is going to take a long time to hit insane scale.

Even so, Optimus already at a 14% share of the enterprise value in 2031.

所以这与其说是 robotaxi 本身对业务财务影响被大幅下调,不如说是 Optimus 作为更大的一块被加进了整个蛋糕里。

So this isn't as much a factor of robo taxi itself being dramatically reduced in terms of its impact financially on the business. It's just the addition of Optimus as a much larger chunk to the overall pie.

再说 Optimus,ARK 的假设仍然相当保守。是啊,想象一下 ARK 竟然保守。我想说的是,当 ARC 在 5 年后发布他们新的 Tesla 估值模型、再往后看 5 年时,Optimus 极有可能像之前的 robotaxi 那样主导估值。

不是因为 robotaxi 做了什么,而是因为 Optimus 这个机会的规模将远超 robotaxi 所能达到的水平。

And Optimus again the assumptions aring is still quite conservative. Yeah, imagine that arc conservative. The point I'm getting at, when ARC drops their new Tesla valuation model 5 years from now, looking another 5 years into the future, there's an extremely high chance that Optimus is going to be looking like what Roboaxi was previously in terms of dominating the valuation.

Not cuz Robo Taxis has done, but Optimus, the scale of that opportunity is just going to be so much greater than Roboaxi could ever be.

在 2031 年,Tesla robotaxi 总量的熊市、牛市和基准情形中,熊市情形是 480 万辆。基准情形大约翻倍,为 810 万辆;牛市情形说实话只比基准情形高一点,大约 1000 万辆。

In 2031, the Bearbull and base case for total Tesla robo taxis, the bare case is at 4.8 million. The base case roughly doubled that at 8.1 and the bullc case barely above the base to be honest around 10 million.

在这些情形下,来自叫车的净收入:熊市情形仅约 5000 亿美元,基准情形约 7500 亿美元,牛市情形接近 1 万亿美元。

The net revenue from right hail then in these cases bear a mere half a trillion or so. Base case about 3/4 of a trillion and bullcase not far off $1 trillion.

值得注意的是,Tesla 在大约 7 个月内就达到了 100 万英里的无人驾驶里程。Waymo 用了 27 个月才完成同样的壮举。

Of note, Tesla hit 1 million driverless miles in around 7 months. Whimo pulled off the same feat in 27 months.

Tasha Keeney 在 X 上就这一公告写道:“robotaxi 在未来 5 年仍占价值的大部分,不过 Optimus 的销量在这里的拐点比此前模型预测的更明显。”

Tasha Keiny upon this announcement wrote on X, quote, "Robbo taxi still comprises the majority of value over the next 5 years, though Optimus sales inflect more here than previously modeled.

顺便说一句,在 ARK 的模型中,储能大约只占 2031 年企业价值的 2%,用金融行话来说,我认为这根本不算什么。顺便说一句,他们仍在谈论 1000 多亿美元的收入,但相对于其他业务,这算不上关键推动因素,如此微不足道。你完全可以把它删掉,估值几乎不会有变化。

Energy storage in ARKs model by the way, a whopping roughly 2% of 2031 enterprise value, which I think in finance jargon is [ __ ] all. By the way, they're still talking about 100 plus billion dollars of revenue, but relative to the other businesses, not a needle mover. so insignificant.

You could literally delete this and the valuation would barely budge

接下来是 Optimus。ARK 估计到 2031 年将有 100 万台 Optimus 机器人卖给外部客户。需要说明的是,这些是 Tesla 的 Optimus 机器人。过去,Elon 曾对未来某些时点人形机器人的总数做过一些估计,不只是 Tesla 的机器人,而是机器人总数。

Tesla 显然希望在其中占据非常大的份额。但需要明确的是,ARK 预计 2031 年将有 100 万台 Optimus 机器人卖给客户,并且想必还会有更多机器人被制造出来并保留给 Tesla 自用。

onto Optimus. Arc estimate 1 million Optimus robots would be sold to outside customers by 2031. And just to clarify, these are Tesla Optimus bots. In the past, Elon has made some estimates about the total number of humanoid robots that there'll be at certain points in the future.

Not just Tesla robots, but total robots. Tesla obviously want to aim for a very large share of that. But to be clear, ARK expects 2031 1 million Optimus robots sold to customers and presumably many more built and retained for Tesla's own needs.

他们对 Optimus 收入的基准情形是 2120 亿美元,即便在那个阶段,这也将超过他们对 Tesla Energy 的牛市情形。

Their base case for Optimus revenue $212 billion, which even at that stage would be in excess of their bull case for Tesla Energy.

概览一下 ARK 模型中的 Optimus。根据不同情景,对外销售从 2027 年到 2030 年之间开始。他们预计 Optimus 机器人将在 2031 年左右达到人类水平的技能,同时需要 4 GW 的算力。

Tesla 此前披露过的 Optimus Academy,基本上就是机器人的幼儿园,让它们学习如何做事、如何操作物体,可能会有 2 万到 3 万台机器人在 Tesla 内部接受训练。

An overview of Optimus in ARKs model. Depending on the scenario, outside sales start between 2027 and 2030. They expect the Optimus robots will achieve human level skill around 2031, also requiring 4 GW of compute.

The Optimus Academy, which Tesla previously disclosed, it's basically play school for robots to learn how to do things, manipulate objects, could have 20 to 30,000 robots trained inhouse at Tesla.

ARK 的模型实际上还包含一个 Optimus 能力提升的条目。这种思考方式很有意思。ARK 预计在 2031 年,仅那一年,Tesla 就将在 AI 基础设施和芯片开发上花费约 2250 亿美元,并且 Tesla 年末现金的 10% 到 25% 会投入到 AI 基础设施中。

The Ark model also actually includes a line item for Optimus capability increase. Interesting way of thinking about this. ARK expects that in 2031, just that year, Tesla spends around $225 billion on AI infrastructure and chip development, and that 10 to 25% of Tesla's year-end cash goes to AI infrastructure.

他们还预计,Terapab 的初始研究部门——不了解的人可以这样理解,计划是先建一个小型的 Terapab 来测试、创新、发明新的芯片制造方式,规模相对较小,看看是否可行。如果可行,这些知识、学习和知识产权技术随后就会被放大。

而我说放大,是真的放大到接近城市规模的庞然大物,也就是最终的完整 Terapab;研究用的 Terapab 成本可能约 30 亿美元,SpaceX 很可能承担其中的大部分。

They also expect that the initial research arm of Terapab, which for those who don't know, the plan is build a little baby Terraab to test stuff out, to innovate, to invent new ways of chip fabrication at relatively small scale, see if it works.

If it does, that knowledge learning IP technology then gets scaled up. And when I say scaled up, I really mean scaled up to the near citiesized monstrosity that will be the full final terapab, the research terraab, maybe $3 billion of cost.

SpaceX likely to foot the bill for the majority.

这是一张很酷的小幻灯片。Grok 显然是在分析模型之后整理出来的。这才是真正对股价影响最大的东西。可以把这些想象成一组不同的杠杆。如果你拉动其中一个杠杆,它会产生多大的影响?

This is a cool little slide. Grock put this together obviously after analyzing the model. This is what actually impacts the share price the most. Think of these like a bunch of different levers.

If you pull one of these levers, how much of an impact does it have?

目前,robotaxi 是遥遥领先的最大价值驱动因素,紧随其后的是实际车队规模。这显然说得通。你运营的 robotaxi 越多,你能赚的钱就越多。

And at this point, robo taxi far and away the biggest driver of value just behind it is the actual fleet size. And obviously this makes sense. The more robo taxes you have operating, the more money you can print.

接下来是利润率。本质上就是这项业务本身有多赚钱?这实际上会显著影响估值。投资者通常愿意为高盈利、高利润率的业务支付更高的价格。

Next is a bit of margin. Essentially, how profitable is the business itself? That actually meaningfully affects the valuation. Investors typically tend to pay more for a highly profitable high margin business.

AI 支出也有很大影响。原因如下:尽管这是一项成本,但 ARK 的假设是,你在 AI 上花的钱越多,创造的价值就越多,因此公司就越有价值。

AI spending also has a big impact. And here's why. Even though this is a cost, ARK's assumptions are that the more money you spent on AI, the more value is created, hence the more valuable the company.

汽车销量的影响中等。然后我们进入数字相当小的部分。Optimus、储能算不上巨大的关键推动因素,至少在这个时间范围内不是。

Cars sold a moderate impact. And then we get into the fairly small numbers. Optimus, energy storage, not massive needle movers, at least not in this horizon.

那么,这里是新增和删除了哪些内容。顺便快速提醒一下,我假设 Crockpot 把功课做对了。我还没核对过。顺便说一句,这就是我现在对 Crockpot 的信任程度。所以这是旧模型和新模型之间的对比。

新增了什么?Optimus 机器人被卖给外部客户。换句话说,AI 和 terraab 支出、付费意愿与定价,这是模型本身里关于 Robotaxi 的极其极客、半自闭式的一部分,再加上 Elon 的股票薪酬、稀释和总股本数。金融极客会懂,其他人不用操心。

So here's what's been added versus removed. And quick caveat, by the way, I'm assuming that Crockpot got its homework correct. Haven't checked this yet. That's how much trust I now have in my Crockpot, by the way.

So this is a comparison between the previous model and the new model. What's been added? Optimus robots being sold to outsiders customers. In other words, AI and terraab spending, willingness to pay pricing, which is a whole super nerdy semi- autistic part of the model itself regarding robo taxis plus Elon stock-based compensation, dilution, and the total share count.

The finance nerds will understand everybody else. No need to worry about it.

被删除的是人类司机网约车业务。我相信此前 ARK 的模型假设,在 Tesla 大规模铺开 Robotaxi 之前,真的会有像 Uber 那样以一定规模运营的人类司机。现在不再是这样了。

What's been removed was the human-driven ride hail business. I believe previously ARK was modeling that they were literally going to be human drivers much like Uber operating at some scale before Tesla massively scaled robo taxis. Not anymore.

Tesla 保险被扔进垃圾桶了。顺便说一句关于 Tesla 保险的题外话。作为一个中等水平的内容创作者,我了解到,在全球范围扩展保险产品慢得令人难以置信,既艰难又痛苦。Desert 保险是个很棒的产品,它在某些地区实际上扩展得相当快。

我记得很多年前中国实际上就是第一个市场,但推广速度比我原本以为的要慢得多。这显然是因为一堆监管负担、障碍、繁文缛节、官僚程序,还有一堆其他破事。

Tesla insurance in the in the bin. And actually a side note on Tesla insurance. I have learned as a midwit content creator that scaling insurance products globally is unfucking believably slow, arduous and painful.

Desert insurance is a great product and it scaled actually out quite quickly in certain areas. I think China was actually the first market ever years ago, but the roll out has been much slower than I would have realized.

And this is obviously due to a bunch of regulatory burdens, hurdles, red tape, bureaucracy, and a bunch of other [ __ ]

Marks 还把中国 Robotaxi 从模型中完全删除了。而现在 Robotaxi 实际上已经推出,显然他们不再需要 Robotaxi 的推出年份输入了。

Marks also removed China Robo Taxi from the model entirely. And now that Robo Taxis have actually launched, obviously they don't need the launch year input for Robo Taxi.

这些是与之前的 2024 模型相比最大的变化。我们看到了每股预期价值。这是加权版本。从 2,617 上升到 4,342。

Now, these are the biggest changes versus the previous 2024 model. We saw the expected value per share. This is the weighted version. 2,617 up to 4,342.

Robotaxi 在总价值中的占比是 88%。现在是 81%。再说一次,这并不是因为 Robotaxi 不会对业务产生重大影响。只是因为 Optimus 现在占了很大一块,大约 14%。

Robo taxi share of the total value was 88%. It's now 81%. Again, not because robo taxis are not going to meaningfully impact the business. It's just Optimus is now a massive slice around 14%.

别误会我的意思,一些 Robotaxi 的假设也变了,但这里真正的大因素、大部分差异来自新增了 Optimus,而不是 Robotaxi 被下调。

Now, don't get me wrong, some of the robo taxi assumptions have changed as well, but the real big factor here, most of the difference is Optimus being added, not robo taxi being downgraded.

每辆 Robotaxi 每年的行驶里程,2024 模型是 70,000 到 120,000,说实话这乐观得离谱,现在连 70,000 都算勉强。别误会,这是可能的,一个全职的典型出租车司机一年可能跑 50,000 左右,也许在特别好的一年能接近 60,000 到 70,000。

现在新模型已经调整到 65,000,所以它处于偏高端,但绝对是切实可行、可信的。记住,自动驾驶车辆可以运行超过全职的时长,这算下来是每天 178.8 英里,一年 365 天。如果每天跑 12 小时,每小时不到 15 英里。所以实际上相当相当可行。

the miles per road best taxi per year 20 24 model 70,000 to 120,000 which I'll be honest obscenely optimistic even 70,000's pushing it now don't get me wrong it's possible a typical taxi driver full-time might do around 50,000 maybe you know in a really good year closer to 60 70,000 it's been adjusted now the new model to 65,000 so it's on the higher end but it's definitely tangible viable and credible remember an autonomous vehicle can be operating more than full-time hours this works out to be 178 8 m a day, 365 days.

If you're doing 12 hours a day, less than 15 m an hour. So, actually quite quite doable.

他们下调了汽车整车毛利率的上限。此前,模拟范围中汽车整车毛利率最低为 20%,最高为 80%。现在低端降到 12.5,但高端被限制在 50%。

They've brought down their vehicle gross automotive margin cap. Previously, the range of simulations had gross automotive margins as low as 20% and as high as 80%. On the low end now, it goes down to 12.5, but on the high end, it's capped at 50%.

他们还将车辆和储能业务的倍数从 13 倍下调到 10 倍。所以,很多这些数字都降下来了。

And they've also got the vehicle and energy storage multiple from 13 times to 10 times. So, a lot of these have come down.

还有储能每兆瓦的资本开支。基本上就是 Tesla 的成本,从 10 到 45,000 降到 5 到 10,000。

and energy storage capex per megawatt. How much it's basically costing Tesla come down from 10 to 45,000 to 5 to 10,000.

而奇怪的是,Tesla 估值模型恰好给 SpaceX 留了一些空间。看看这张幻灯片。一张实际的截图。SpaceX 加 Tesla 的收入和 EBIT,也就是按业务线划分的 2031 年利润。

And curiously, the Tesla valuation model just so happens to dedicate some space to SpaceX. Check this slide out. An actual screenshot. SpaceX plus Tesla revenue and EBIT, aka profit by business line 2031.

为了让大家有个概念,这不是一边 Tesla、另一边 SpaceX。这是 Tesla 加 SpaceX。这是按业务板块划分的总收入。而这是净 EBIT。

Just to orient you folks around this, this isn't Tesla on one side and SpaceX on the other side. This is Tesla plus SpaceX. This is total revenue by segment. And this is net EBIT.

SpaceX 的 AI 业务,那块大的粉色,大约占整个饼图的一半,总收入 3.8 万亿。其中 1.9 万亿来自它。简直是绝对碾压。Starlink 在这里也占很大一块,4,500 亿。

Tesla 的 Robotaxi 业务,深蓝色那块大约 7,500 亿。Optimus 是蓝色,储能是深绿色,电动汽车业务是紫色。

The SpaceX AI business, the big pink slice, roughly half of the entire pie, 3.8 trillion total revenue. This is 1.9 trillion of that. Just abs fuckingutely dominating. Starink, a big chunk here as well, 450 billion.

Tesla's robo taxi business, around 3/4 of a trillion in the dark navy. Optimus in blue, energy storage, the darker green. and the electric vehicle business in purple.

在这整个 3.8 万亿美元总收入饼图中,SpaceX 是 2.35 万亿,Tesla 是 1.45 万亿。SpaceX 占总收入的 60% 以上。

Of this entire $3.8 trillion total revenue pie, SpaceX $2.35 trillion and Tesla 1.45. SpaceX accounting for more than 60% of the total revenue.

然而,当我们看 EBIT,也就是 2031 年的利润时,SpaceX 的 AI 业务绝对是碾压级的。以至于在这张图里,ARK 把 Tesla 整个业务合并成一个板块,而它仍然被粉色那块单独的 SpaceX AI 业务远远甩在后面。Starlink 是绿色。

However, when we look over at EBIT, essentially profits 2031, SpaceX AI is absolutely dominating. So much so that in this chart, AK has combined Tesla's entire [ __ ] business into one segment.

And it's still dwarfed by just the space XAI AI business alone in pink. Starlink is green.

所以这才是真正重要的东西。收入无关紧要。利润才是真正重要的。你猜怎么着?SpaceX 在 1.9 万亿净利润中的占比是 69%。

So this is the stuff that really matters. Revenue irrelevant. Profits that's what really matters. And what do you know? The SpaceX share of net 1.9 trillion represents 69%.

再重申一下,ARK 对这两家公司 2031 年会有多赚钱、实际能印多少钱、能赚多少利润的估计,两家公司合计 2.74 万亿美元。但其中 SpaceX 占 69%,即 1.9 万亿。

所以 69%,一个不错的数字,这是很大一块,接近四分之三。根据 ARK Invest 的预测,2031 年 Tesla 和 SpaceX 合并 EBIT 的利润中,接近四分之三由 SpaceX 业务贡献,而其中绝大部分又仅仅来自 SpaceX AI。

To reiterate, ask estimates for how profitable these companies will be, how much money they're actually printing, how much profit they're making in 2031. a total between the two companies of $2.74 trillion.

But of that, SpaceX represents 69% $1.9 trillion. So 69% one nice two that's a big chunk not far off 3/4 of the profits of the combined EBIT of Tesla and SpaceX according to Arch Invest in 2031 accounted for by the SpaceX business and of that just SpaceX AI is the vast majority.

现在,看到 ARK 的模型很有意思,原因有两个。第一,他们显然预期 Tesla 和 SpaceX 会在某个时点合并。第二,他们显然已经开始思考,如果这真的发生,合并时的合理比例会是多少。

Now, this is interesting to see an ARX model for two reasons. One, they obviously expect at some point Tesla and SpaceX merge. And two, they've obviously started thinking about, well, if that is to occur, what would be the fair ratio in the event of a merger?

你算出这个的方法是,如果你认为新的合并实体价值等于总价值的 100%,哪家公司贡献最多?谁带来的价值最多?合理比例是多少?这是所有 Tesla 和/或 SpaceX 投资者都应该自己去做的事。

你得花时间尝试对两家公司做长期建模。我会看得比 5 年远得多,但合并的时间窗口很可能在 5 年之内。你得试着把这些搞清楚。

The way you figure that out is what company, if you think about the new combined entity being worth 100% of the total value of that, who's bringing the most to the table? Who's contributing the most value?

What's the fair ratio? This is what all Tesla and or SpaceX investors should be doing. themselves. You got to take the time to try and model out both companies over the long term.

I go much further than 5 years, but the merger horizon potentially probably is within 5 years. You got to try and figure this stuff out.

至于它值多少,我的估值模型,我其实刚让 Rockill 把数字拉出来。在 2031 年的 EBIT 方面,我给出的 SpaceX 占比甚至更高,比 ARC 估计的 69% 高出大约 10% 左右。

What it's worth, my valuation model, I've actually just asked Rockill to pull the numbers. I have an even higher share of SpaceX in terms of EBIT in 2031 about 10 or so% higher than ARC's estimate of 69%.

你需要考虑这一点的原因是,如果这两家公司提出合并,你就得知道所提出的合并比例是否合理、公平;如果你不花时间做这项功课,弄清楚 SpaceX 的 AI 业务、Starlink 等等在潜在未来利润和价值中占多大比例,那你就是在盲飞。

And the reason you need to think about this is because if there is a merger proposed by these two companies, you got to know whether or not what's being proposed is a reasonable and fair merger ratio or not, you don't take the time to do this exercise and figure out well, you know, what percent of the potential future profits and value would be the SpaceX AI business, Starink, and so on, you're flying blind.

有意思的是,几个月前我在 Patreon 上发布了我那个 20 年期的 Tesar 和 SpaceX 估值模型。如果你感兴趣,可以看看下面的链接。投资者级别及以上的支持者可以获取。

但即便是入门级的支持者,也能看到一份快照,里面恰好包含了这次建模最终指向的合并比例,也就是未来某个时点哪家公司值多少——我们说的就是今天这个时点。

Interestingly enough, I launched my 20-year Tesar and SpaceX valuation model on Patreon a couple of months ago. If you're interested, check out the link below. It's available to supporters at investor level and above.

But even those who are entry- level supporters get a look at the snapshot which does include the funnily enough the merger ratio kind of end destination of this modeling of which companies worth what at some point in the future we're about today.

不想跑题太远,但合并的公平比例,并不只是看合并时哪家公司更赚钱,还要看增长率等等等等。所以这里面涉及的因素多得多。事实上,我的模型——我觉得里面大概有 50 张表——还包含一个公平持股比例,这其实就是一旦发生合并时的底线比例。

Not to get too sidetrack but a fair ratio of a merger. It's not just a matter of which company's more profitable at the time of a merger but rates of growth and blah blah blah.

So there's a lot more to it. In fact, my model, which I think has about 50 [ __ ] sheets in it, also includes a fair ownership percentage, which is really the bottom line ratio in the event of a merger.

我刚把这个调出来了。让 Grock Build 用最新版本的模型算了一下公平持股比例。这很有意思。我的模型给出的合并公平比例是:SpaceX 占合并后实体价值的 66.5%,几乎正好是特斯拉的两倍。

And I've just pulled this up now. Ask Grock Build in the latest version of the model. The fair ownership ratios. And this is fascinating. My model has the fair ratio at a merger.

SpaceX accounting for 66.5% of the value of the combined entity, exactly almost exactly double that of Tesla.

回想一下,我们刚看了 ARC 对 2031 年 EBIT 的估计,其中 SpaceX 占了大约 69%——实际上是 69% 的利润。

And recall we just looked at ARC's estimates for 2031 EBIT where SpaceX was accounting for around 69% actually 69% of the profits.

再说一次,如果你想看完整的估值模型,去 Patreon 上看就行,投资者支持者级别及以上可以获取。或者去看 ARX,那个是免费的。

Again, you want to see the full valuation model, just check it out on Patreon, available to people at the investor supporter level and above. Or go look at ARX. That one's free.

不过说实话这挺有意思的,再展开说一点。你不能指责我抄 ARC 的作业,因为我的模型在 ARX 刚发布之前好几个月就已经发布了。

It's actually quite interesting though, just to elaborate on this a bit more. You can't accuse me of copying Arcs homework cuz my model was published months before ARX just dropped there.

但有意思的是,在相当宏观的层面上,Ark 和我在未来哪家公司——SpaceX 还是特斯拉——可能贡献最多价值、或者最值钱这一点上,似乎大致处在同一个区间。

But it is interesting that at a fairly high level, Ark and I seem to be somewhat in the same ballpark in terms of which company in the future, SpaceX versus Tesla, could be contributing the most value and or worth the most.

我敢保证,大多数没有真正花时间给 SpaceX 建模的特斯拉投资者会觉得这简直是胡扯——什么?不可能。

I guarantee you most Tesla investors who haven't actually taken the time to model out SpaceX would think that's [ __ ] What the No.

接下来谈风险。最大的风险当然是监管延迟导致 robotaxi 放量放缓。其次是马斯克的突然离职。我认为这是极不可能出现的结果。再其次就是自然灾害或者大流行病。

On to the risks. The biggest, of course, slower robo taxi ramp due to regulatory delays. The next would be Elon's sudden departure. I think this is an extremely unlikely outcome. The next natural disaster or a scam demic.

不过,Ark 指出监管风险似乎正在减弱。这仍然是一个 robotaxi 的故事。robotaxi 占了 81% 的价值。

Though, Ark notes that regulatory risks quote seem to be diminishing. It's still a robo taxi story. Robo taxis accounting for 81% of the value.

Optimus 现在也纳入计算了。虽然它还没有完全改变估值,但我们已经看到,即便只有 100 万台 Optimus 机器人——记住,马斯克公开表示过,他预计长期来看会有 1 亿台以上的人形机器人,也许 10 亿台以上,也许 100 亿台以上,不全是特斯拉的,但特斯拉的目标是拿下这个市场的很大一块——即便只有 100 万台 Optimus 机器人,它也开始对特斯拉的合理估值产生影响。

Optimus now in the math. And while it's not completely shifting the valuation, we've seen that even with just 1 million Optimus robots. And remember, Elon is on the record saying that he expects longer term there'll be 100 million plus humanoid robots, maybe a billion plus, maybe 10 billion plus, not all Teslas, but Tesla's aiming to take a huge slice of this market.

And even with just 1 million Optimus robots, it's starting to move the needle in terms of Tesla's fair valuation.

第三,预计特斯拉将在 AI 上投入大约 12 吉瓦。

And number three, expect Tesla to spend approximately 12 gigaf [ __ ] tons on AI.

快速概览一下 ARX 给出的特斯拉 2031 年每股预期价值 4,400 美元。悄悄说一句,这个数字我会挺满意的。

Quick overview of ARX $4,400 per share expected value for Tesla in 2031. I'd be pretty happy with that, just quietly.

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