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特斯拉股东若与SpaceX合并将更有利:这能让马斯克获得更大的投票控制权,而凭借他数十年的过往业绩,他更多的决策对股东更有利,两者合在一起比分开更强。即便马斯克离开,两家公司仍会非常成功,只是合并后的估值或许会少一两个零。即便没有马斯克,随着Robotaxi扩张,特斯拉也不能仅被当作一家汽车公司来估值;不过合并并非必然,且需在30-40%溢价下获得全部股东50%的批准。

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《The Tesla SpaceX Merger Debate Just Got Spicy》
Solving The Money Problem发布 2026-10-25 · 20 段内容
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“Moonshots”播客上的年轻人对Tesla与SpaceX的合并有一些看法。SpaceX与Tesla之间的合并。Elon确认,两家公司都已成立了由独立董事组成的特别委员会来研究此事。

The young people on the "Moonshots" podcast have some thoughts on the merger between Tesla and SpaceX. A merger between SpaceX and Tesla. Elon confirmed that both companies have formed special committees of independent board members to look into the matter.

他说,将两家公司合并“会是个好主意”,并强调这远未成为定局。双方尚未就任何条款达成一致。在预测市场上,年底前宣布合并的概率从29%跃升至56%。

He said that merging them "would be a good idea," stressing that it was nowhere near a done deal. No terms were agreed upon. The probability of a merger being announced by the end of the year jumped from 29% to 56 % in the prediction markets.

Barclays Bank认为,SpaceX可能通过换股方式收购Tesla,时间可能在12月之前。分析师Dan Ives表示,障碍在于,要完成这笔收购,SpaceX需要为Tesla股票支付约30%至40%的溢价。

Barclays Bank believes SpaceX could buy Tesla through shares, possibly by December. The obstacle, says analyst Dan Ives, is that it would require SpaceX to pay a premium of about 30 to 40% on Tesla shares to complete the purchase.

Tesla需要获得全体股东50%的批准,而不只是那些出席投票的股东。因此,他们实际上必须找到Tesla的所有股东,请他们就这项决议投票。

Tesla needs the approval of 50% of all its shareholders, not just those who attend to vote. Therefore, they will literally have to search for all of Tesla's shareholders and ask them to vote on this resolution.

Peter在这一点上说到了点子上。这话我已经说了一段时间了。上限要高得多,而障碍也比人们意识到的更难跨越。任何不投票的人,其票都会被计为“反对”。上限极高。

Peter has hit the nail on the head on this point . I've been saying that for a while now. The ceiling is much higher, and the obstacle is more difficult than people realize. Anyone who does not vote will have their vote counted as "no". The ceiling is extremely high.

我只是想指出一件我认为关于这次合并很重要的事。那就是“核心人物”的危险。突然间,Elon站在了一家估值四五万亿美元的公司中心,这家公司涵盖火箭、汽车、机器人、芯片和人工智能。我希望他在健康和安全方面好好照顾自己。

You know, I just want to point out something I think is important to say about this merger. It's the danger of the " central character". You know, suddenly Elon is at the center of a company valued at four to five trillion dollars , encompassing rockets, cars, robots, chips, and artificial intelligence.

And I hope, as you know, that he takes good care of himself in terms of health and safety.

这让我回到Tesla与SpaceX可能合并这一点上。如果合并发生,Musk将对合并后的新实体拥有更大的投票控制权。不展开太多繁琐细节,这主要是由于他在SpaceX所持股份的特殊投票安排。

This brings me back to the point of a potential merger between Tesla and SpaceX. If this happens, Musk will have greater voting control over the new merged entity. Without going into too much tedious detail, this is mostly due to special voting arrangements for his shares in SpaceX.

这是好事。鉴于Musk在多个领域数十年的过往业绩,他拥有的决策权越大,股东得到的结果就越好。换句话说,就让它运转起来。别挡道,让Elon去做他的事。

This is good. The more decision-making power Musk has, given his decades-long track record in multiple fields, the better the results will be for shareholders. In other words, just let it work . Get out of the way and let Elon do his work.

最畅销的产品遥遥领先,是限量版“Flying Rooster”T恤,它不仅捕捉了人们见过的最壮观时刻之一,还暗示了Tesla与SpaceX潜在联盟最终可能的样子。这两家公司合在一起肯定比各自单干更强。

By a wide margin, the best- selling product is the limited-edition "Flying Rooster" T-shirt , which not only captures one of the most spectacular moments anyone has ever seen , but also hints at what a potential alliance between Tesla and SpaceX could eventually become.

These two companies are certainly stronger together than separately.

我想澄清一下,因为Alex显然不会这么做,但Alex在几个月里连续三四期播客节目中都说过,SpaceX和Tesla很快就会合并。所以,Polymarket终于行动起来这件事,如果你不信我,就去看以前的播客文字记录。他当时是在对

Hey, I just want to clarify, because Alex apparently won't do it, but Alex has said in three or four consecutive podcast episodes over the course of months that SpaceX and Tesla will merge soon.

So, the fact that Polymarket finally got their act together is just, you know, if you don't believe me, look at the old podcast transcripts . He was saying this to

我想我们都同意,Musk在SpaceX和Tesla掌舵的时间越长,长期结果就越好。不过,我相信即使Musk今天离开,两家公司也会安然无恙,并走向非常成功的未来。这可能只是意味着,可能合并的实体的最终合并估值会少一两个零。

I think we can all agree that the longer Musk stays at the helm of SpaceX and Tesla, the better the long-term results will be. However, I believe that both companies will be fine and will move towards a very successful future, even if Musk leaves today.

This may simply mean having one or two fewer zeros in the final consolidated valuation of the entity that may be merged.

至于Tesla,在汽车业务方面,Elon提拔了一批副总裁,其中包括一些来自Tesla China的人,顺便说一句,如果这次合并发生,Tesla China据说会消失或被分拆之类的。所以,我认为助手已经够多了,但要把名字点出来。

As for Tesla, on the automotive side, Elon promoted a number of vice presidents, including some from Tesla China, which, by the way, if this merger happens, Tesla China is supposed to disappear or be spun off or something like that .

So, I think there are enough assistants, but name them.

但这个类比站不住脚。是的,如果Tesla由像Tim Cook这样的人妥善经营,它本会只是一家汽车公司。它现在的交易估值是按机器人公司而非汽车公司来定的。如果它按普通汽车公司来交易,即便汽车业务执行得完美无缺,它的市值也会损失十倍。

But this analogy doesn't hold up. Yes, if Tesla had been run properly by someone like Tim Cook , it would have remained just a car company. It is traded as a robotics company, not a car company.

It would have lost ten times its market value if it had traded as a regular car company, even with perfect car execution.

Elon的神奇之处在于放慢汽车生产,以增加机器人生产。谁有勇气这么做?Ships。他在Falcon 1上就这么做过,关停了整个项目。我不完全确定这是指自动驾驶汽车、FSD系统、Cyber Cabs,还是Tesla目前合法运营载客并快速扩张的无人驾驶车辆。

无论哪种情形,今天的Tesla都不会仅被当作一家“汽车公司”来估值,即使Musk不在也一样。Robot taxis现在正在扩张。那不是一家汽车公司。

Elon's magic lies in slowing down car production to increase robot production. And who has the courage to do that? Ships. He did that with Falcon 1, shutting down the entire project.

I'm not entirely sure if it's about self-driving cars, FSD systems, Cyber Cabs, or Tesla's unsupervised vehicles that are now legally operating to transport passengers and are expanding rapidly.

There is no scenario in which Tesla today is evaluated as merely a "car company," even if Musk were not around. Robot taxis are now expanding. That's not a car company.

看看Elon Musk对Tesla造成的损害有多大,或者对这个、那个、别的什么造成的损害有多大。”

Look at the amount of damage Elon Musk has done to Tesla, or to this, or that, or something else."

在Patreon上发布我那个有20年历史的Tesla和SpaceX评级模型的重大更新。

release a major update to my 20-year Tesla and SpaceX rating model on Patreon.

无论是Tesla,尤其是在现实世界AI方面,还是SpaceX,尤其是在其AI计算业务方面——该业务将服务于AI世界的很大一部分,以及他们自己的产品,比如“Grock”,尤其是我一直最喜欢的“Bot Grock”——SpaceX和Tesla都将在这方面做出重大贡献。

both Tesla, especially with real-world AI , and SpaceX, especially with their AI computing business that will be working on a large part of the AI world and their own products like "Grock" and especially my all-time favorite "Bot Grock", SpaceX and Tesla will contribute significantly to this.

SpaceX和Tesla正在努力解决世界上最大的问题、抓住最大的机遇,而作为一家公司,它们将能更好地做到这些事。

SpaceX and Tesla are working to solve the world's biggest problems and seize its biggest opportunities, and they will be able to do these things better as one company.

但Tesla与SpaceX之间的合并目前尚无保证。如果你是Elon、Tesla或SpaceX的粉丝,不妨去看看全新的周边商品店,那里有许多别具一格、独一无二的设计。

But a merger between Tesla and SpaceX is not yet guaranteed. If you are a fan of Elon, Tesla, or SpaceX, check out the brand new merchandise store where you can find lots of distinctive and unique designs.

我用来评估Tesla和SpaceX未来20年的新模型,现已在Patreon上线,面向投资者级别及以上的支持者开放。

My new model for evaluating Tesla and SpaceX over 20 years is now also available on Patreon for backers at the investor level and above.

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