$TSLA · Meet Kevin · 2026-10-29
说话者看多 TSLA,在约 360 美元附近买入,现价约 406 美元;他认为特斯拉与 SpaceX 合并的可能性上升——2027 年前为 64%,2028 年前为 74%——合并很可能为特斯拉支付溢价;他估计合并后公司估值约有 20% 的折价,并倾向于长期利用合并带来的波动获利,但警告过程中会有许多煎熬期,走势并非一路上行。
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Tesla 和 SpaceX。我们不该谈飞行汽车,而该谈钱。这是我们在 SpaceX 和 Tesla 从一开始就知道的一件事。Elon 需要筹集大量资金。非常非常多的钱。
Tesla and SpaceX. We shouldn't be talking about the flying car, but about money. This is one thing we knew from the beginning at SpaceX and Tesla. Elon needs to raise a lot of money. A lot, a lot of money.
因为我估计,要在2027年底前达到10吉瓦,还需要额外筹集4200亿美元,这说明我们在融资方面才走了十分之一的路,对吧?我的意思是,如果有10笔各值400亿美元的批次,我们刚刚完成了一笔400亿美元的租赁,还有另外400亿美元的债务。
如你所知,我们还得再做八次才能达到10吉瓦的目标。
Because my estimate that an additional $420 billion needs to be raised to reach 10 gigawatts by the end of 2027 indicates that we've only come a tenth of the way in raising the funding, right?
I mean, if you have 10 tranches worth $40 billion, we've just completed a $ 40 billion lease, and another $40 billion in debt. As you know, we still have to do it eight more times to reach the 10 GW target.
嗯,结果这可能是略微低估了。Elon Musk 现在 literally 是这么说的。我会说,明年达到20吉瓦是极不可能的。但概率不是零。而就在几个月前,概率还是零。达到20吉瓦的可能性会随时间增加。
Well, it turns out that this might be a slightly underestimate . Elon Musk is literally saying the following right now. I would say that reaching 20 gigawatts next year is highly unlikely.
But the percentage is not zero. Whereas just a few months ago the probability was zero. The likelihood of reaching 20 gigawatts increases over time.
换句话说,世界首富在告诉你,如果你对 AI 设备持悲观态度,你就没意识到他会在 AI 上花多少钱。如果他的净资产约为1万亿美元,那么警告来了:他即将在硬件上花费1万亿美元。
In other words, the richest man in the world is telling you that if you are pessimistic about AI devices, you don't realize how much money he will spend on AI. If his net worth is around $1 trillion, here's a warning: he's about to spend $1 trillion on hardware.
我的估计表明,要达到10吉瓦还需要再投入4200亿美元。接下来的10吉瓦,很可能采用下一代芯片,成本大概率会更高。接下来的10吉瓦很可能要花费6000亿美元。这让我们达到大约一万零两百亿。
我甚至不知道这个数字该怎么念。所以,SpaceX 需要为略超一万亿美元的支出筹集资金,才能花得出去,
My estimates indicate that it will take another $420 billion to reach 10 gigawatts. The next 10, which will most likely be next-generation chips, will probably cost even more .
The next 10 will likely cost $600 billion. This brings us to about one trillion and twenty. I do n't even know how to pronounce that number. So, a little over a trillion dollars of spending that SpaceX needs to raise money for in order to be able to spend,
但这次 TerraFab 的扩张确实令人兴奋,我认为他们真正能筹集到那额外一万亿美元的唯一途径,最终就是让 Tesla 和 SpaceX 合并。
But this TerraFab expansion is really exciting, and I think the only way they can actually raise that extra trillion dollars is eventually by merging Tesla and SpaceX.
所以,我们现在做了一件看起来有点疯狂的事,但我们设计出了一种公式,把高估的 Tesla 和低估的 SpaceX 之间的市盈率相对盈利增长比率(PEG)结合起来,因为在我看来,我认为它们两家都很可能会被收购。
So, we have now done something that seems a bit crazy , but we have devised a kind of formula to combine the price-to-earnings-to-growth (PEG) ratio between the overvalued Tesla and the undervalued SpaceX, because in my opinion I think they are both likely to be acquired.
事实上,我刚买入了 Tesla 的股票。几天前我们在课程成员的“Alpha”群里宣布了这件事。我想那是上周末。你可以通过 reinvest1.com 加入我们。我想我们买入的价格接近360。
我们加仓了一些 Tesla 股票。它的价格现在大约在406。这很棒,但你会明白原因的。
In fact, I just bought shares in Tesla. We announced this in the "Alpha" group for course members a few days ago. I think that was last weekend. You can join us there via reinvest1.com.
I think we bought at a price close to 360. We added some Tesla shares. Its price is now around 406. That's great, but you'll find out why.
首先,我们知道 Tesla 与 SpaceX 合并的可能性在增加。目前,Kalchi 的赔率显示,此事在2027年前发生的概率为64%,在2028年前发生的概率为74%。我认为在2028年选举季之前发生几乎确定。
所以,我希望他们有2028年9月到11月这个时间段的选项,因为我认为概率会接近100%。
First and foremost, we know that the chances of a Tesla-SpaceX merger are increasing. Currently, Kalchi's odds indicate that this will happen before 2027 with a 64% probability, and before 2028 with a 74% probability.
I think it's almost certain that this will happen before the 2028 election season. So, I wish they had an option for the period from September to November 2028, because I think the probability would be close to 100%.
现在,很明显事情可能会出错。我们可能会遇到一些障碍,但我相信在 Trump 政府下,没有什么能阻挡我们。
Now, it's clear that things could go wrong. We may encounter some obstacles, but I believe that under the Trump administration , nothing will stand in our way.
所以,你首先需要知道的是,Tesla,这看起来会有点复杂。所以,我为你简单说。Tesla 的市值为1.61万亿美元。
So, the first thing you need to know is that Tesla , and this is going to seem a little complicated. So, I'll keep it simple for you. Tesla is trading at a market capitalization of $1.61 billion.
如果你把这些市值结合起来,Tesla 在两者中的市值权重约为45%。现在,公平地说,收购时 Tesla 大概率会有小幅溢价,但稍后再详细说。
If you combine these market values, Tesla has a market weight of approximately 45% of the two. Now, to be fair, there will probably be a small premium for Tesla on acquisition, but more on that in a moment.
这意味着今天,我实际上可以通过将 Tesla 的 PEG 比率——它采用了一个疯狂的234倍远期市盈率——除以4年平均增长率来平衡它,而我认为这对 Tesla 来说偏低。我认为这大概率会更接近60%,但我会采用华尔街的数字,得到4.9的 PEG 比率,这通常不在我的买入限制范围内。
This means that for today, I can actually balance Tesla's PEG ratio, which takes a futures earnings multiple , which is crazy, of 234, by dividing it by a 4-year average growth, which I actually think is low for Tesla.
I think this will probably be closer to 60% , but I'll go with the Wall Street numbers and get a PEG ratio of 4.9, which is generally not within my buying limits.
然而,如果你用234除以60,实际上更接近约3.9的 PEG 比率。这稍后会带来差别。然而,如果你按市值加权,然后纳入 SpaceX 的 PEG 比率——目前仅为0.38——我得到合并公司的市场 PEG 比率为2.6。这相当有趣。
However, if you divide 234 by 60, it is actually closer to a PEG ratio of approximately 3.9. That will make a difference here in a moment. However, if you weight that according to its market value, and then incorporate SpaceX’s PEG ratio , which is only 0.38 at the moment, I get a market PEG ratio of 2.6 for the combined company. This is rather interesting.
现在,我个人认为公司的 PEG 比率大概率更接近2,因为我相信两端的增长率都更高。好吗?所以,我不像一些大乐观主义者那么乐观,但我比一些关于 SpaceX 的基本情景更乐观。
Now, I personally believe the company's PEG ratio is probably closer to two, because I believe the growth rates at both ends are higher. Good? So, I'm not as optimistic as some of the big optimists, but I am more optimistic than some of these basic scenarios about SpaceX .
我认为132是 SpaceX 的底部。这些芯片的盈利能力日益上升。我们之前刚谈到,由于我们看到它们产生的模因动量,信用违约互换实际上已经下降。因此,我非常乐观地认为 Elon 在可预见的未来正在做一笔好投资。
I think 132 holds a bottom for SpaceX. The profitability of these chips continues to rise day by day. We just talked earlier about how credit default swaps have actually declined because of the kind of meme momentum we've seen them generate.
Therefore, I am very optimistic that Elon is making a good investment for the foreseeable future.
在未来某个时候,这些芯片会失去很大一部分价值,但我认为在那发生之前,我们能付清它们的成本并在此基础上增长。在它已经回本之后,长期来看会有更大的残值。所以,我对此持乐观态度。
At some point in the future, these chips will lose a lot of their value, but I think we can pay for them and grow beyond that before that happens. It will have greater residual value in the long run after it has already paid for itself . So, I am optimistic about that.
但问题是钱。如果他们想还清所有债务,他们只有300亿美元现金。如果他们只支付短期账单,他们将拥有约700亿美元现金。
But the problem is money. If they wanted to pay off all their debts, they only had $30 billion in cash. If they only pay their short-term bills , they will have about $70 billion in cash.
问题在于,在这笔40换40的交易之后,我们还需要再融资3400亿美元。如果我们要实现下一个10吉瓦的目标,就必须再融资6000亿美元。
Well, the problem with that is that we need to raise another $340 billion after this $40-for-$40 deal. If we are aiming to achieve the next 10 gigawatts , we will have to raise another $600 billion.
Elon很可能会合并这些公司,并为特斯拉股票支付溢价。顺便说一句,我们做了一个关于如何处理特斯拉与SpaceX合并的视频,对吧?你可以去看看。在YouTube上搜一下就行。或者在YouTube上。
It's likely that Elon will merge these companies and pay a premium on Tesla shares. By the way, we made a video about how to handle a Tesla-SpaceX merger , didn't we? You can watch that. Just search for it on YouTube. Or on YouTube.
合并这些公司会给他更多杠杆,去建造他的巨型工厂,实现他拥有这个巨大而惊人的数据中心的梦想。我对此感到兴奋,但我也意识到会有很多痛苦的时期。
Merging the companies will give him more leverage to build his giant factory and his dreams of owning this huge and amazing data center. I am excited about it , but I realize there will be many periods of suffering.
市场在融资时期表现不佳,难以承受。人们会对正在发生的事情感到焦虑。我认为这就是我们有些受挫的原因。很明显,我们在Google上经历了艰难的一天。我认为这就是我们有些受挫的原因。这种情况往往在痛苦最严重的时候发生。
The market does not do well when it comes to struggling during fundraising times. People become anxious about what is happening. I think that's why we stumbled a bit . It's clear we had a tough day with Google.
I think that's why we stumbled a bit . This often happens when the suffering is at its worst.
然而,SpaceX将经历更大程度的痛苦。我并不是说因为这一点,这家合并后公司的一切都会完全向上。但我对他们正在建设的东西和正在创造的东西感到乐观。
However, SpaceX will experience a much greater amount of suffering. I am not saying that things will be entirely upward for this merged company because of that. But I am optimistic about what they are building and what they are creating.
我相信,把它们的估值合并起来看,合并后的交易价格大约有20%的折价。如果增长进一步加速,这个折价还可能扩大。所以,这就是我现在正在考虑的事情。从长远来看,我认为利用合并带来的波动性是一个好策略。
I believe that when you combine their valuations, they trade at a discount of perhaps 20% when combined. This is a discount that could increase further if growth accelerates even more.
So, this is what I'm thinking about right now. In the long run, I think taking advantage of the volatility resulting from the merger is a good move.
Lauren和我当时在买一辆新的特斯拉。我们没能获得FSD的永久使用权。我对自己说:“天哪,我真希望我能。”我认为人们对我们reinvestone.com上销售的“Reinvest Terminal”平台也会有同样的感受。
Lauren and I were buying a new Tesla. We were unable to obtain permanent access to FSD. I said to myself, "Man, I wish I could." I think people will feel the same way about what we sell at reinvestone.com, the "Reinvest Terminal" platform.
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