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特斯拉与SpaceX的合并远非确定之事:合并获批需要特斯拉全部股份中超过50%投赞成票,且弃权票计为反对票,因此即便多数散户支持也可能不够。相关提案可能在大约12个月内提出,但目前尚未成形。

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《SpaceX Tesla Merger: NOT A Sure Thing》
Solving The Money Problem发布 2026-10-23 · 22 段内容
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现在尘埃已经正式落定,我们得聊聊 SpaceX 第三季度财报电话会上关于 Tesla 与 SpaceX 合并的重磅消息,会上我们得知 Tesla 和 SpaceX 都已成立委员会来讨论这个想法。

Now that the dust has officially settled, we got to talk about the Tesla SpaceX merge bombshell on the SpaceX Q3 earnings call where we learned that both Tesla and SpaceX have formed committees to discuss this idea.

我想让大家明白,这远未成定局,即使看起来大多数 Tesla 股东会支持。

I want you guys to understand this is far from a done deal, even if it seems like most Tesla shareholders would be in support

我的 20 年 SpaceX 估值模型,其中也包含一个 20 年的 Tesla 模型,因为我认为这两家公司迟早会在某个时点走到一起。

My 20 years SpaceX valuation model, which also includes a 20-year Tesla model, cuz inevitably at some point I think the companies come together.

现在让我们听听 Jane Monster 的看法,如果我没记错的话,她之前是分析师,现在是 Tesla 股东。

Let's now hear from Jane Monster, who, if I recall, was previously an analyst and is now a Tesla shareholder.

收购价、对 Tesla 的报价会是多少。归根结底,合并后的公司相当独特。

what's the buyout, the bid going to be for Tesla. At the end of the day, the combined company is pretty unique.

除非像 Tesla 这样的公司将其真实世界数据流授权出去,而这一数据流本身的价值肯定高达数百亿美元,甚至可能接近一千亿。没有任何真实世界数据来源能接近 Tesla 车队规模的量级。

因此,任何公司要想有机会实现真正的通用超级智能,就必须拥有数字数据——许多公司都有——但还必须拥有物理真实世界智能,而这只有 Tesla 拥有,因为只有 Tesla 拥有这个数据流。

Unless a company like Tesla were to license its real world data stream which itself has got to surely be worth many tens of billions of dollars if not pushing towards a hundred.

There's no source of real world data even close to the scale of Tesla's vehicle fleet. So in order for any company to have a shot at true general super intelligence they must have digital which many companies have but they also must have the physical real world intelligence which only Tesla has because only Tesla has the data stream.

我强烈感觉,这将会是对 Elon 和 Tesla 的纯粹毫不掩饰的幸灾乐祸。

I got a I got a pretty good feeling that this is going to be pure unadulterated butt hurt toward Elon and Tesla.

看看有多少吉瓦的 AI 算力上线了。10 吉瓦显然有些夸张。与 Musk 相关的公司总是这样。他们的目标总是很大胆,但我们知道他们在追求什么。

Let's see how many gigawatts of AI compute were brought online. 10 gawatt is obviously a stretch. This is always the case with a Musk related company. They're always audacious in their goals, but we know what they're aiming for.

而截至 12 月、也就是 9 月季度末,这个数字是 1.7。他说的是 10,这意味着,如果是在 5 到 10 之间,那仍然会是一个大得多的数字。

And the number was 1.7 at the end of the December the September quarter. And he's saying 10, which means that, you know, if it's between five and 10, it's still going to be a much bigger number.

而那个数字出来后,他基本上是在提前预告几分钟后 CFO Brett Johnson 所说的话,即预计 12 月季度资本支出为 350 亿至 400 亿美元。而华尔街的预期是 190 亿美元。

And that came out, what he was basically doing was kind of pre-elling the guy that came from Brett Johnson, the CFO, minutes later, which was to expect 35 to 40 billion in capex in the December quarter. The street was at 19 billion.

令人意外的是,股价因此上涨了。通常我们会看到这类公司因此下跌。为什么会涨?原因是,我认为投资者相信这笔钱花得值,无论是为了达到 5 吉瓦、7 吉瓦、10 吉瓦还是别的什么。

Now, surprisingly, the stock went up on that. I mean, typically, we see these companies trading off on that. Why would it go up? And the reason is that I think investors believe that this is well spent uh whether it's to get to five uh gigawatts whether it's uh 7 10 whatever it is.

所以回答你的问题:我会对此持保留态度,并做一定调整,但即使经过调整,相对于我们从其他超大规模云厂商看到的情况,这仍然是一个令人印象深刻的数字。

So to answer your question is I just take it with a grain of salt and kind of adjust it and even with that adjustment it's still an impressive number relative to what we're seeing from the other hyperscalers.

Dan,感谢你的点名。Tim 的问题来了,Dan,我对自己过去作为分析师的经历表示敬意。这是一个时期,你几乎会有——我要说的这句话很危险,但是——

So um Dan I appreciate your shout out Tim question coming for you Dan my shout out to my past as an analyst. This is a a period where you almost have this is a dangerous comment I'm going to make, but

Tesla 的交易价格与 SpaceX 的交易价格对比等等。作为投资者,你想说的是,这是一个独特的资产组合,然后这个资产的长期潜力如何。换句话说,我认为不会有什么围绕倍数或某种估值来证明这次合并合理的依据。

what's Tesla trading at versus what SpaceX is trading at and all that. As an investor, what you want to say is this a unique asset that comes together and then what is the long-term potential around that asset.

In other words, I don't think that there's going to be justification around an uh a multiple or some sort of evaluation to make this come together.

但当你思考 Elon 所构建的信仰时,这一切本质上就是如此。这是一个非常宏大的愿景,几乎需要员工和投资者抱有近乎宗教般的信念才能真正支持它。它很有力量。当你把这两家公司放在一起,这就是所有迷因股中的迷因。

因此,我认为从投资者的角度,你应该欢迎这次合并,因为它确实强化了 Elon 过去十年围绕 AI 力量所构建的整个叙事。

But when you think about the religion of what Elon is building, that's effectively what all this is. This is very big vision that needs almost religious fellowship by the employees and investors to to really stand behind it.

It is powerful. When you put these two companies together, I mean, it is the meme of all meme stocks. And so, I think that from an investor perspective, you should welcome this combination because it really reinforces the whole narrative that Elon's been building for the last decade around the power of AI.

这笔交易获批的门槛极高。严格来说要超过 50%,比如 50.000000001%。因此,需要所有 Tesla 股份中 50% 加一股投票赞成。

The bar for this deal to be approved is extremely high. More than 50% technically like 50.000000001%. So 50% plus one share of all Tesla shares would need to vote in favor of this.

这就是为什么这是一个如此巨大的障碍。每一位 Tesla 股东,无论持有 1 股、10 股、50 股、100 股、10 万股还是 100 万股,只要没有积极参与投票并行使投票权投赞成票,就自动计为反对票。

Here's why that is such an enormous hurdle. Every Tesla shareholder, whether they own one share, 10, 50, 100, or 100,000, or a million shares, who does not actively participate in a vote and exercise their right to vote, and vote in favor is counted automatically as a no.

许多投资者目前将 Tesla 股票持有在某个糟糕的国家,或通过某个糟糕的券商,导致他们无法行使投票权。他们的券商在他们居住于一个糟糕国家、确实无法投票时,就是不允许他们投票。即使他们希望交易达成并支持,他们持有的股份自动计为反对票。

Many investors currently hold their Tesla shares either in a [ __ ] hole country or with a [ __ ] house brokerage where they are unable to exercise their right to vote. Their brokerage literally will not allow them when they live in a shitty country where they literally can't do this.

Their automatic nos even if they want the deal to happen and they support their shares held count as a no vote.

此外,除了无法投票的人之外,还有另一部分股东根本懒得投票,也不会去投反对票。还有一群投资者不知道如何投票。根本不关注这些。外面有一大堆普通人持有 Tesla 股票,他们从未想过代理投票。那到底是什么?忽略。

Furthermore, in addition to the people who cannot vote, there's another subset of shareholders who can't be [ __ ] voting and won't vote their nos. There's another group of investors who don't know how to vote.

Don't pay attention to this [ __ ] There's a bunch of normies out there that hold Tesla stock that have never even thought about a proxy vote. What the [ __ ] is that? Ignore.

很容易假设几乎每个 Tesla 散户股东都积极参与、活跃在 X 上、看视频,但这远非事实。外面有太多普通人买了一些 Tesla 股票,之后就再没想过,从未投过票,不知道如何投票,将来也不会在重要事项上投票。

It's easy to assume that just about every Tesla retail shareholder is engaged, active on X, watching videos, but this is far from the truth. There are so many normies out there who bought some Tesla stock, haven't thought about it again, have never voted, don't know how to vote, and won't in future matters.

归根结底,这远不是板上钉钉的事。即便大多数特斯拉股东、散户股东投赞成票,那也可能不够。我们需要压倒性的绝对多数来弥补,来抵消那些不能投票、不愿投票、不去投票、不知道怎么投票、没法投票的人,还有反马斯克的人、教师工会、养老基金、觉醒派基金经理,以及那些疯癫的左翼分子——他们在特斯拉股票上赚了巨额财富,却会不惜一切来跟马斯克作对。

Bottom line, it's far from a sure thing. Even if the majority of Tesla shareholders, retail shareholders would vote in favor, that may not be enough. We need a massive super majority to compensate, to make up for the people who can't vote, won't vote, don't vote, don't know how to vote, can't be [ __ ] voting, the anti-Elon, teachers unions, pension funds, the woke fund managers, the deranged leftarts who've made squillions of dollars on Tesla stock yet will do anything to spite Elon Musk.

越来越多今天大概会投反对票的特斯拉股东,到时候会惊呼:天哪,这什么情况?好吧,我赞成。如果未来12个月左右还没有向特斯拉股东提出交易方案,我会感到意外,但这件事你其实只有一次机会。

你不想把它搞砸,不想失手,不想结果难分胜负。你想要一场大胜。而在我录这段话的时候,我们大概还没到那一步。

More and more Tesla shareholders who today would presumably be a no will be a holy [ __ ] what the [ __ ] Okay, I approve. I'd be surprised if sometime in the next 12ish months a deal hasn't been proposed to Tesla shareholders but you only really got one shot at this.

You don't want to [ __ ] it up. You don't want to miss. You don't want to be too close to call. You want a big win. And as I am recording this, we're probably not yet there.

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